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Nailati Elytis
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01-08-2006 17:50
New to the "Impeach Bush Guy" discussion? Fear you may have missed some of the threads on this topic? Just want to relive the drama, the passion, the utter waste of time, from the very beginning? Just refer to this handy, chronological thread index!


Small plot blackmail builds
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'Impeach Bush' Signs - Solution?
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Impeach Bush or Land Extortionists?
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Impeach Bush
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Impeach Bush Signs
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Stopping abuse of tiny plots
/108/67/73912/1.html

Post your Impeach Bush Pictures across the internet.
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Oh my impeach bush story of the day!
/108/7c/75849/1.html

Regarding Impeach Bush...
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Poll: Sould LL just ban the "Impeach Bush" guy?
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Impeach bush signs are broadly offensive and are destroying your business.
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Impeach Bush signs are making LL loose money.
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Extortion Plots affecting SL Economy
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Why I'm not becoming a premium member
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Is LL protecting Impeach Bush because they're thinking of bringing in billboards?
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"Impeach Bush" Strikes again
/108/cc/76166/1.html

I'm selling my land and going Basic
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Impeach Bush made it to Joystiq.com
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how to be an unprincipled wanker and pretend you have principles
/108/0d/76300/1.html

Justice by the Book
/108/1f/76314/1.html

These are offensive
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Impeach Bush on Warcry
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Poll: Ban Impeach Bush!!!........THREADS
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The Impeach Bush Signs
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Impeach Bush Signs
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Impeach Bush guy/signs?
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Lazarus returns from the dead.
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Key the "Impeach Bush" guy
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The Impeach Bush Signs
/108/ed/77992/1.html

Oh come on.
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Will there be any leadership on signage griefing?
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You need to do something about the Bush signs!
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Impeach This
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Auctioning plot surrounded by Lazarus land
/130/ab/79161/1.html

So this is SL?
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Poll: Anti-Bush signs
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Solution to "Impeach Bush", et al
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Impeach Bush Signs (They are a cool idea)
/108/66/79807/1.html

Dear Linden Labs
/18/88/79827/1.html

"Those" Signs in SL
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How to stop Land Extortion
/130/de/79990/1.html

Bush Signs - What Can We Do?
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The Impeach Bush Guy
/18/40/80170/1.html

A solid solution for the Impeach Bush debacle
/108/bd/80208/1.html

Nothing Divine about it
/108/79/80479/1.html

The Bush Extortion
/18/66/80489/1.html

Linden Labs open invitation to griefers and extortionists?
/108/4a/80492/1.html

Avatar PHoto (Lazarus Divine)
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The Vicious Cycle
/108/80/80548/1.html

Simple way to stop the Anti-Bush signs
/18/5a/80586/1.html

Land Barons vs Impeach Bush Signs
/130/93/80668/1.html

Get Rid Of The Bush Guy
/108/82/80695/1.html

Surefire Way To Deal With Impeach Bush Signs!
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Impeach Bush Guy Says 1/3 of His Plots Will Not Have Signs
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These Anti Bush Signs Are Nothing But Land Extortion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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please do something
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Poll: Too many threads about the bush signs?
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The bush signs are not going anywhere, so please STFU!
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Well My Ship Is Sinking-Goodbye Bush I Tried
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Support for the "Impeach Bush" Guy
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Well I've Been Thinking All Day How To Resolve This Bush Issue
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OK Enough with the forum posts about bush signs
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Top Level George Bush Signs and Related Forum
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Don't like the way things are? 'Vote' with your dollar.
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NWN update on "Impeach Bush" controversy-- please post actions here!
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The More you talk about the bush guy, the more popular he becomes!
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Poll: Should the "Impeach Bush" Guy's freedom of expression be surpressed/censored?
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Change from anti Bush to pro war
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Notice to all Forum Readers/Posters
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A Petition To Stop The "Bush Guy" From Using Blackmail And Land Extortion In SL
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Poll: Unbiased Poll: Impeach-Bush Signs and Freedom of Speech
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"Impeach Bush Signs" - Handy Thread Index!
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"Impeach Bush" sign suggestion
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I**each B*sh and land sales!
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Just my thought... To stop Land Extortion...
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"technical solution for a problem that is purely social"
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Anti-Extortion Policies
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Poll: If LL were to take actions against the Bush signs...
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Further Explanation Requested
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Them D**N Blue signs all over
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If you can't beat em, join em...
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the last thread about the bush signs
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Abusive behavior from Mr Impeach Bush
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This may *really* be the last thread about the Bush signs
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A suggestion about that Bush Guy
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a suggestion about that bush guy
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The dorky BIG BLUE SIGNS. A simple fix, really...
/108/56/83012/1.html

Please help me keep this index up-to-date. This issue must not be allowed to die!
Lewis Nerd
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01-08-2006 17:54
I would not be at all surprised if this issue has caused the most traffic on the forums of all subjects since the game was opened, judging by that list.

Surely that says to LL that the community at large want something to be done about it?

LL have the tools, the power, and the backing of many players, to solve all of this, yet they do nothing....... and why they won't is beyond my comprehension.

Lewis
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Nailati Elytis
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Join date: 11 Nov 2005
Posts: 66
01-08-2006 18:04
Oops--missed one:

The More you talk about the bush guy, the more popular he becomes!
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Gladius Luchador
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01-08-2006 18:13
From: Lewis Nerd
Surely that says to LL that the community at large want something to be done about it?

LL have the tools, the power, and the backing of many players, to solve all of this, yet they do nothing....... and why they won't is beyond my comprehension.

Lewis


Not so sure about "community at large" here. Sure there is an excessive amount of posts about this situation. But in many cases, the posts are satire or (enough already! type posts). As for the legitimate complaints, I wouldn't be suprised if it was just a handful of individuals and alts (in one case it was plainly obvious someone came on with alts) complaining.

Community at large would suggest that out of 100k + users, the majority of them were fed up with this behavior. I think that's not the case at all.

As for LL having the power and "backing of many players" to solve all this....... What kind of majority would it take to justify bulldozing (or banning) players who build and host clubs. I happen to know quite a few people who dislike clubs - but I wouldn't begin to call them a majority.

How would you like it if LL and a small handful of players decided it was in everyone's best interest to shut down your club?
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01-08-2006 18:53
For a proper perspective on the entire "thing I don't like in my view" one should include the archives in the search, using a variety of search terms like 'grief build", "ugly sign", "damn neighbor", and the like.

Also one should make sure to include the index itself in the list just cuz geeks love recursion.
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Moss Talamasca
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01-08-2006 19:21
Surely there's more.
Nailati Elytis
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01-08-2006 19:31
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
Also one should make sure to include the index itself in the list just cuz geeks love recursion.


Excellent point.

"Impeach Bush Signs" - Handy Thread Index!
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Joy Honey
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01-08-2006 19:34
From: Moss Talamasca
Surely there's more.


Nah, Jeska's been busy combining threads that were all started by one person.......
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Nailati Elytis
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01-10-2006 21:12
Why keep the discussion to one or two threads when you can spread it out over 73? (Not accounting for combined threads or those I've missed.) Some new additions:

please do something
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"Impeach Bush" sign suggestion
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I**each B*sh and land sales!
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Just my thought... To stop Land Extortion...
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I've been frequenting various forums since 1994, and I've never seen anything quite like this. Every forum I've ever been a member of has attempted, with varying degrees of stringency, to avoid duplicate threads on a single topic. That way, somebody might actually read your post, whereas if you start a new thread on the same topic it is more often than not forgotten after a couple of replies. That way, there is a possibility for discussion, rather than shouting the same few points into the forum ether again and again. Not to mention that threads about other topics won't be pushed out of sight by the forum spamming.

It doesn't appear that the forum moderation here is lax, I just find its priorities to be unusual.
Osgeld Barmy
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Posts: 3,336
01-10-2006 22:54
the forum management is practically non existent

now wheres my pitchfork and torch!
Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-10-2006 23:57
Wow! You deserve a medal for compiling that list. :D

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Nailati Elytis
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01-11-2006 10:25
Added a couple more I'd missed:

The Bush Extortion
/18/66/80489/1.html

Simple way to stop the Anti-Bush signs
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Which brings us to approximately 75 threads. Any bets on when we'll reach 100?
Chris Wilde
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01-11-2006 10:32
I would like to mention that if these threads didnt exist, there would just be the usual banter and whinings on the same old subjects.
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01-11-2006 10:38
From: Chris Wilde
I would like to mention that if these threads didnt exist, there would just be the usual banter and whinings on the same old subjects.


What's wrong with that? We don't really need 75 (and counting) different threads about one subject do we?
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Chris Wilde
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01-11-2006 10:41
From: Joy Honey
What's wrong with that? We don't really need 75 (and counting) different threads about one subject do we?

Of course there's nothing wrong with it. I didnt say there was. Im just pointing it wouldnt be much better IMO. But maybe we should take the approach used by some in dealing with the bush signs: "Ignore them".
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Nailati Elytis
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01-11-2006 10:52
From: Chris Wilde
[...] Im just pointing it wouldnt be much better IMO. [...]


Well, of course there is a certain proportion of BS here, as you'll find on any forum. But I don't think that that justifies a black-and-white approach wherein there must be either no useless whining at all, or else we might as well let the useless whining take over the forum and push everything else off of the front page. I find quite a bit of interesting debate and useful information on this forum, and I suspect you find something of value, too, otherwise neither of us would be here.
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01-11-2006 10:54
Thank you for compiling this invaluable list. You are an historian and archivist of the highest degree.
Nailati Elytis
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01-11-2006 10:58
*snort*
Chris Wilde
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01-11-2006 10:58
From: Nailati Elytis
But I don't think that that justifies a black-and-white approach wherein there must be either no useless whining at all, or else we might as well let the useless whining take over the forum and push everything else off of the front page. I find quite a bit of interesting debate and useful information on this forum, and I suspect you find something of value, too, otherwise neither of us would be here.

I didnt say those 75ish threads should stay or go. Im not a forum mod here. Im just saying I'm indifferent to them. But I do find it very ironic to hear some people (not you) complain about the threads but then turn around and tell the people who complain about the signs to just "ignore them". :D
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01-11-2006 11:16
From: Nailati Elytis
Oops--missed one:

The More you talk about the bush guy, the more popular he becomes!
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Oh gawd stop I'm gonna wet myself! :D:D
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01-11-2006 12:39
I wonder if there are more threads than there are signs at this point.


Not that I didn't (technically) start one. Just curious. :p
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Ziekling Bunnyhug
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01-11-2006 12:54
those signs will be gone in about 2 years, unless bush figures out how to rig things for a 3rd time. :P
Nailati Elytis
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01-14-2006 18:26
Anti-Extortion Policies
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Them D**N Blue signs all over
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Phew--for a day or two there, I was afraid people had moved on.
We're up to 77. Do I hear 78?
Mystic Soothsayer
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01-14-2006 19:08
From: Lewis Nerd
I would not be at all surprised if this issue has caused the most traffic on the forums of all subjects since the game was opened, judging by that list.

Surely that says to LL that the community at large want something to be done about it?

LL have the tools, the power, and the backing of many players, to solve all of this, yet they do nothing....... and why they won't is beyond my comprehension.

Lewis


well lets see...
he has well over 68K meters of land, whats the tier payment on that?
as long as he pays his tier then LL is quite happy with anything he does.
now, if he doesnt sell ANY Of those plots he is paying tier on for a very long time he might go away because I think that thats a pretty HIGH tier payment?

anyone know how much 68k meters costs in tier?
now, one might wonder... DOES he have to pay tier? or does he have some corporation behind him paying the tier?
I would just try your best to ignore the signs, dont buy his land what ever you do, and dont sell him anymore land!

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Fa nyak
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01-14-2006 19:21
68k meters is an entire region worth, putting him at at least $200/month.
strangely enough, i first offered to buy his small sign plot next door to me after he put one up right beside my skybox, but he declined to sell it even at an obvious proffit. they were marked for sale, but only to himself, and when i asked about that he said he "didn't want to accidently sell them". then i asked him nicely to remove the sign and he did, and he has since moved out of the sim. :confused: so...i'm not praising the signs or anything, but my experience seems to be much different from what i'm hearing out of everyone else about him trying to pull land proffit, though admitedly i haven't read all 70+ threads so fill me in if i'm missing something?
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