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A Petition To Stop The "Bush Guy" From Using Blackmail And Land Extortion In SL

Daltrey Pow
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01-08-2006 14:30
This Petition can be found at Rosieri 182, 251, 91. The Following is the petition and how it can be filed. It is not my petition but that of the SL citizens signed below. I would just like to help them spread the word. Thank You





SIGN THIS PETITION BY DRAGGING A NOTECARD WITH YOUR NAME BACK INTO THIS CUBE! COPY THE CUBE AND POST IT ON YOUR OWN LOT THEN SEND SIGNATURES GATHERED TO PROKOFY NEVA. THE CUBE CAN BY FOUND AT ROSIERI 182, 250, 91

IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS PETITION'S WORDING, MAKE YOUR OWN, THE MORE THE MERRIER, THE POINT IS TO START SENDING THEM IN TO [email]Philip@lindenlab.com[/email]

OPEN LETTER TO PHILIP LINDEN, CEO, LINDEN LAB

Dear Philip,

We write to you as aggrieved residents of Second Life subjected to a grid-wide spamming of literally hundreds and hundreds of huge, ugly, spinning billboards such as those associated with the anti-Bush campaign which are on tiny parcels of land of 64 m2 set to sale at outrageous prices on hundreds of sim.

We view this tactic as land extortion to force a sale, and as griefing of the grid. This spamming significantly interferes with our enjoyment of Second Life.

Worse, this greedy "micro-baron" extortion drastically reduces our property values forcing some of us either to sell our land to move, when there are a lot of these high-price signs, or paying way too-high prices just to restore the unobstructed view.

We urge you to develop a rational and fair signboard policy for Second Life, and to make it a punishable offense through a systems of warnings leading up to bannings for those who deploy signboards in such a matter as to extort and grief.

This matter is not about the content or nature of the message on the board, and we support the expression of political or other statements in SL. This is about extortionist prices and the creation of a nuisance to make people pay to get rid of it.

We realize framing the definitions for this offense have various ramifications for the creativity and free land market of SL, so we suggest that reasonable boundaries might possibly include:

o a cap on the sale of parcels less than 128 m2 in more than 1 sim unless set to $0 sale, i.e. enabling neighbours on a sim only to arrange transactions.
o a cap on resale prices for parcels 128 m2 in size at 7/meter
o restrictions as to time, place, and manner for the mounting of billboards, i.e. no signs larger than 10 x 10, no placement of signs not associated with events, no placement of any sign on any land for sale larger than 4 meters, etc.

Indeed, a simple policy -- like a city ordnance -- stating that no for-sale sign or any prim on land set for sale can be larger than 4 x 4 or higher than 4 m2 might go a long way toward ridding the mainland grid of this infestation.

Signed
MarmelaGramela Doesburg
Poupee Mechanique
Major Hailey
Tony Koala
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Lewis Nerd
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01-08-2006 14:37
*signed*

Lewis Nerd
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Zonax Delorean
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01-08-2006 16:40
*signed*

Zonax Delorean

PS: While I don't think this is the perfect solution, I think it's one that the 'protect free speech' (though it's extortion and griefing) whiners can accept, too.
Siggy Romulus
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01-08-2006 17:33
*waves hands*

DONE

he's stopped using blackmail and extortion... why didn't you ask me to make that happen ages ago... I just used my magical powers of knowing what words mean and VOILA! it stopped happening!
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From: Jesse Linden
I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Tren Neva
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01-08-2006 17:56
For the record, online petitions never ever do anything.
Pantheon Lightworker
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01-08-2006 18:12
The one solution I read about on this forum is disallowing objects on land that is listed for sale.

It is a perfect solution for the issue. It still allows his freedom of speech, while preventing his small lots for sale from being used as a way to extort money from others.
Daltrey Pow
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01-08-2006 18:15
From: Pantheon Lightworker
The one solution I read about on this forum is disallowing objects on land that is listed for sale.

It is a perfect solution for the issue. It still allows his freedom of speech, while preventing his small lots for sale from being used as a way to extort money from others.



If that happened every one of his signs would be gone by the end of the month. That is a fact that Linden Labs will not accept.
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Cristiano Midnight
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01-08-2006 18:20
From: Pantheon Lightworker
The one solution I read about on this forum is disallowing objects on land that is listed for sale.

It is a perfect solution for the issue. It still allows his freedom of speech, while preventing his small lots for sale from being used as a way to extort money from others.


That shortsighted solution would completely prevent the ability to sell a build or other objects with a piece of land, which we now have. So to silence the signs you don't like, you would take away the freedom of other people to sell their land with a prebuilt house, for example. Great solution.
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Desmond Shang
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01-08-2006 19:08
Nobody would set their land for sale formally - they would merely add "IM me to buy" in the land description and keep all the stuff on it.

Tech solutions will be gamed, and in so doing, those gaming them will feel justified as it was 'within the rules'.




As far as a reasonable petition like this... consider it signed, this 8th day of January 2006, Desmond Shang.
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Enabran Templar
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01-08-2006 19:15
Hey, I thought you were leaving.

But you're still here spamming about this.

So what did I miss? :confused: :confused: :confused:










:confused: ;)
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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01-08-2006 19:21
From: Pantheon Lightworker
The one solution I read about on this forum is disallowing objects on land that is listed for sale.

It is a perfect solution for the issue. It still allows his freedom of speech, while preventing his small lots for sale from being used as a way to extort money from others.


What a horrible idea; you've just sunk any sort of land development company, of wihch there are many.
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Pantheon Lightworker
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01-08-2006 20:12
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
What a horrible idea; you've just sunk any sort of land development company, of wihch there are many.


Okay, lets change it slightly. Land for sale will have it's contents viewable only when you are on that land. From outside, it will appear empty.
Lordfly Digeridoo
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01-08-2006 20:43
From: Pantheon Lightworker
Okay, lets change it slightly. Land for sale will have it's contents viewable only when you are on that land. From outside, it will appear empty.


And thus there goes impulse, fly-by sales. As well as being able to view any additional landscaping (trees and whatnot) around the area. Also, there goes immersion. :)
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Martin Magpie
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01-08-2006 21:23
From: Enabran Templar
Hey, I thought you were leaving.

But you're still here spamming about this.

So what did I miss? :confused: :confused: :confused:

:confused: ;)


It might just be me but this seems against the fourm posting rules Jeska.


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The antagonist is the character (or group of characters) of a story who represents the opposition against which the heroes and/or protagonists must contend. In the classic style of story wherein the action consists of a hero fighting a villain, the two can be regarded as protagonist and antagonist, respectively. However, authors have often created more complex situations. In some instances, the story is told from the villain's point of view; in such a story, the hero is regarded as the chief antagonist of the story.

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Daltrey Pow
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01-08-2006 21:28
Lets keep this on Topic. Phillip Linden asked what we were doing that is productive so this is my solution. But yes Martin I agree this guy is obviously following me around and harrassing me. He needs to grow up
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Enabran Templar
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01-08-2006 21:38
From: Daltrey Pow
But yes Martin I agree this guy is obviously following me around and harrassing me. He needs to grow up


Hey, chief, you're the one sending me obscene, sexually-explicit PMs. That's not kosher.
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