'Impeach Bush' Signs - Solution?

Nevermind

Did it say it disappeared for 20 min.?

Nothing to see here - move along

*note to the ones who made these* Find a way to keep them from vanishing! We can't do anything to get rid of the tyrant in rl perhaps in sl we can voice our hurt over being mislead and lied to by this 'false' president.

Where can I get one of these signs? I really want one or ten.

Good grief. These signs only irritate people, they do not help the cause, trust me.

Cristiano - Just buy a plot of land and release a tiny smidge of it and I bet your wish will be granted shortly.

As does Mr. Bush to the rest of the world. Your point is?

Sorry, little bit of politics there.

Please, please, please understand one very important thing about these signs. These are put up by a land speculator who will gladly sell you a 16 m2 plot of land for minimum of $L500. They are really in no way, shape or form any political statement. Just simple smoke and mirrors by an apparently pretty decent snake oil salesman.

For the record, I despise Bush and cannot believe he "won" twice... oh well, we'll see what happens next election - at the very least GWB cannot be re-elected.

Actually they don't cost 500L, they cost more like 3000 - 5000L to get rid of. I got a bunch in my back yard and I refuse to buy them because I refuse to be forced to pay that much to be rid of thos eye sores. So he's not a snake oil salesman but a strait up conman.

http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php

Would this not be considered disturbing the peace? =P Or harassment of sorts?

There is one near where one of my friends bought - 16m2 for $L500 - but like you, I've seen them much higher than that. Instead of buying it, he just put up one of these signs:

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=35494

Do ya really want to go there?

I'm not a Bush fan, let's make that PERFECTLY clear.

My point is, these signs are not going to change anyone's mind - if anything they may work in the opposite manner, and turn people off of the cause/message because of the way it is being shoved down the throats of everyone in SL in a griefing manner.

People should not be doing this. What is going to happen when the Next President of the United States is of the other party. Do you think they (people of the current president0 are going to sit still and be nice?

The next Presedent of the United States will be smeared and be as ineffective due to the hatred done to the ones before. This is turning into one giant cycle of hate. Cant we break the cycle?

Cant we all just get along? I find these signs distrubing, what would happened if everone put up a negitive sign on all of the people that bother us?

About the signs, could one blast them??

Someone recently IMed Phoenix, and said that he could build us a really nice office building. When reading his profile, I saw that he is a member of the group that has the plots with the "Impeach Bush" signs. We won't do business with him... or anyone else in that group, for that matter.

I'm not really a fan of any president or politicians in general. To me, it's simply a matter of choosing the lesser evil. I have rarely met a politician that I like (and I have met a lot, ask me about meeting Rick Perry... ). *Exception being Chet Edwards

I don't think it's in our best interests as Americans to blindly go where we are led. But I think there are other ways to protest what you don't like. Bush bashing really doesn't accomplish anything, and just makes other countries lose respect for the US even more than they already have.

I joined the 'Impeach Bush' group a while back and was given reason to belive it had nothing to do with extortion, griefing, or a land con. A lot of us in the group were probably just going along with the message, though i will admit it was the signs that led me to the group.

I had assumed the signs were on the group founder's land. I see that was not the case. I IM'd him, told him that should he really be trying to effect some sort of political statement that selling these little plots for exorbitant prices is totally working against him. I have not ruled out the idea that this was his plan all along. Make some easy money buy selling out. I hope that was not the plan.

I definitely don't support extortion to get someone to buy land, that is just silly. I do however fully support the political message, and the freedom to express it within Second Life. Bush is a criminal who should be in jail, not in the Oval Office. I will make my own sign next time I sign in, and gladly put it on my own land.

A while back there a lot of signs I took to be pro George Bush signs. I suspect the "make it so bad looking that people will buy it"' crowd may have switched to "impeach Bush" signs because they are still things most folks don't want next to their property in SL but are more plausibly viewed as being sincere in intent.

Some of these small plots are created because of the way the tier system works in steps instead of on a straight per sq. m. basis. It might be good to work on solving that aspect of the problem.

Calling Leaders of countries names is not going to win you friends, I play second life to get away from all of that nonsense. The press calls the PM of Japan all of the worse names. I may not be a fan of his but he is due the respect of being a person if not the Leader of our country.

I did not fully understand the eailer postings. Now I understand them. Putting up these signs on land then charging a lot of creds to others to get the "eye sores" removed. This is low behavior.

A pitty I can not take my ASDF F-15 and make attack runs on them. I have been caught in explosions in a sandbox. Sadly, the pests would just put them up again. It is not a solution even if allowed. This behavior leads to violance and should not be tolerated.

I'm not from America. I dont give a rats backside about whether anyone likes Bush or not, however i do find it offensive to wake up one morning and see a ruddy great big blue sign outside my land on SL - i believe it *IS* disturbing the peace - advertising material of this nature does not, IMHO, belong on SL - and does nothing to make me feel sympathy for this cause.

To then have the audacity to say buy the land to get rid of the sign is extortion. I'll sit down and have a civil debate with anyone - but dont try to shove it down someone's throat, you will get the gag reflex!!

Have I missed something? The signs I have seen don't flash or rotate. They are less objectionable than about half the appalling (to me) builds which people so cherish.

He put them round the preview grid, where no profit was possible.

His motivation MAY be other than he says, but I see no evidence sufficient to prove it.

If he is willing to sell at high price, that could be simple rationality. These tiny plots are hard to find, and expensive to buy anyway. At a price high enough to allow him to leverage his coverage, ie gain at least five more for each one sold, this could be perfectly consistent with his aims.

I'm not saying I know what his motivation is, just that I see no firm evidence either way. What he is doing is within the TOS, and no worse than lots around SL.

If you wish to ban political advertising, or impose a minimum plot size, then propose these to LL. That is the way to proceed. Jeepers, you should see the eyesores I've tolerated next to me. Completely purposeless and never visited. At least these signs have a point and a purpose, even if it's one you dislike.

Nixon DID get impeached, didn't he? It's not impossible. And here we are discussing it, because of the signs.

I've seen these signs recently (last night I saw quite a few of them next to a highly populated area) and yes they rotate and are bright blue (and now that light texture effect makes it worse). What's even more disgusting about it is that the land was for sale ........
16 sq m of land for $5500 Ls.

Yes they were rotating, yes they were excessive IMHO and yes i'll take your advice and bring it up with LL

yeah and now he's split the texture into 4 giant quaters to make even bigger billboards that you can see from the next sim over. Its pretty discusting. I don't support Bush either, but come on. This is not helping his cause, its making it worse. I'm currently looking in the TOS to see if this is violating something. If it is we can report him and let the lindens decide his punishment.

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