'Impeach Bush' Signs - Solution?

Thing is someone else bought the plots around Jonny's home, doubled the price, and put even more obscene signs. Jonny got sick of it and bought them figuring at least its not the Impeach Bush guy. Supposidly there was a meeting a few days ago between fellow citizens who were concerned with all these Impeach Bush signs poping up and a Linden supposidly showed up. Wish I could have been there for that meeting. Probly happened while I was work anyways.

Well you must be navy :/...........um before you saying anything about the japanese press. The american version of the japanese news at times if not most is wrong on many fronts.
The Japanese News on the most part is FAIR Unless your watch FujiTV News. Otherwise I totally disagree with you.
Look at your sources before making a general statement about the japanese press.
I don`t have the slightest ideed what you trying to get in this statement..........

Tell me if this is wrong???????????????????????????/What the hell is this TOPIC doing in the GENERAL SUBJECT PART OF THE FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

Free speech is a bitch sometimes.

Nevertheless, it's infinitely better than the alternative.

The only way to preserve your "view" is to own it.

Are the signs ugly as sin? Sure. But they're not harassment.

TWO THUMBS UP!

They are harrassment when they deliberately diminish property values in an attempt to extort money from the surrounding land owners.

Sorry, that's horribly subjective. A fervent anti-bushite would argue that such signs increase land value.

Regardless, you are not guaranteed a certain price for your plot of land. This isn't the real world housing market, there are no limits to how high or how low land goes. It's merely worth what people are willing to pay for.


No user has any right, WHATSOEVER, to tell any other user what to put on their own land. Period. If you don't like that, well... I don't care, really. Them's the rules.

Lf

My friend Dook Buckenburger owns land in Ku - his name showed up in one of your screen shots. He DOES NOT have up any "impeach bush" signs, he put up the "impeach.... other person...." signs in protest of those eyesore rotating signs. I don't think Mr. Divine even comes around to see the ummmmm.... other signs. I do know that there have been a few reports about the monstrous signs hanging over land boundaries - you see how well those have been taken care of - NOT.

Sorry if I misread your post and that is not the case...

Some of the pics might have another name in it, that Ku one your refering to I believe I was just showing the (censored) mess that this is making. yea alot of the Signs have been encroaching onto other peoples land, so what does the (censored) do? he buys another plot and doubles his profit. SO... What is this called that he is doing? it's called Cyber Extortion, laugh if you want but yes they have given a name to it. And many companies have been royaly screwed because of it Real money is involved here folks, something isn't done it will only get worse. More and more of these idiots are going to pop up everyday until they stand up and do something. Who's it gonna be that finally has had enough? who will force there hand? You know freedom of speech is one thing... living in peace without someones sign sticking through my wall is another..

Probably so, I had just been woken up by my kids at an unholy hour and was not in the best of moods and did most likely read it wrong

I have always said what this guy is doing is extortion - why extortion is allowed in SL is beyond me. Oh well...

I agree with this assesment in terms of facts that we can prove.

What bugs me aobut this though is that it *is* really harrasment in that the people putting up the signs are not left-wing anti-bushites, but right wing bush supporters.

They use the anti-bush slogans to ridicule and upset the left and to divert the blame from themselves. So they are kind of harrassing left wing types as a kind of "added bonus" to the land scam.

There is no way to actualy prove this however, so we must give the little weasels the benefit of the doubt unfortnately.

I agree with you to a point... however, when it is encroaching on your land, it needs to be smaller or taken down.

Besides, this is still nothing but land extortion, no political message really, just smoke and mirrors so you don't see what he's really up to.

Oh so Lordfly the plot of land I found behind your store for sale in Grignano I can purchase and put anything i want on it RIGHT??? oh and 50 k aint nuttin... I'm buying land woot

Hehehe, you're evil! I like it

Well here's my 2 cents:

It is harassment when he takes the effort to add more signs around the properties of those who disagree with his methods.

It is harassment when he can't surround your land with signs and makes the effort to get arround any barriers you put up because you disagree with him.

It is harassment when he starts IM'ing for the sole purpose of ridiculing you.

Has he done all these thing? YES. So he is in all sense a griefer. A griefer that must be delt with and it seems like LL believes without a doubt that what he's doing is political and probly agrees with whatever message they think he's trying to spread and thus turns a blind eye. So you know what LL? How bout I hand out Tshirts and rotating signs that can be worn above one's head promoting the impeachment of Bush in Jessie or Rauch. This way all them little griefers out there can run around assaulting people, distrupting events, and sniping the welcome area free from prosicution because its apperant you advocate this kind of behavior so long as its spreading a political message. Please LL prove me wrong. I pray you do.

Yup. Go ahead, try to violate my sensibilities. I can trump it.

Keep in mind, it's PG.

Oh, and it's on the other side of the Sim.

LF

No it's not the other side of the sim... it's like 40 m from your front door lol But i'm not the type of person to go and violate a persons rights, harass, extort.. ect... I deal with these issues on a daily basis at work, SL needs to open there eyes real quick.

As i've said previously the political message is not one i give a hoot about - it could be impeach The Wiggles for all i care - the fact of the matter is they are an eyesore, they are IMHO violating the TOS, and the fact that he's bought up so much land and bastardizing land prices so that people can get rid of him, is again IMHO extortion.

From the point of view of the message itself - perhaps I should buy up land and make enormous signs with things that have absolutely no relevance to half of SL - signs demanding the ability for me to be able to buy organically grown fruit and vegetables from my local store, signs to support Prince William as the next King of England and for Charles to abdicate, signs to promote that the sidewalk outside the house i live in is fixed before someone breaks a leg, signs to support Australia as a republic or to remain part of the British Commonwealth - i'm sure you'd all feel as passionate about these things as i do right??? Wrong! and that's just the way I feel about the Bush message.

SL is a place to escape the every day humdrum of real life, to have a bit of fun, relax, play a game or three, interact with friends - if i wanted to listen or see twaddle like that i'd turn on the TV. As for those places that have chosen to have such signs on their properties that are either retail or entertainment areas i'll be boycotting your establishments.

They own the land, so long as they don't violate the TOS they can put up what they like. Sure, theres a possibility that they are still a dickhead - but thats neither here nor there.

I'll have to side that way - even if I don't like what they've put up - because the right that lets them be a turd is the right that lets me build what I like, and when I first came to SL I was on the receiving end of the 'I don't like what you build - it offends me' (In my case it was an arabian palace that a few wanna be jarheads refered to as 'ur sandnigger build').

The rights that protected me through that - alas - protect this asshat as well.

And the last thing I need in SL is someone else telling me what I can build.

Ok, you guys, i'm new here, so please, call me on this if you think I"m out of line.

I just went to look at a piece of property that seemed a good deal and there are several of the blue signs right next to it. One even rotates over the land.

I almost passed on the land because of the blue signs. But then I said, no. And you know what? I put up my own blue sign!!


I made a few blue signs as a parody and as a blatant return remark. and I placed them on my new land. Then I started feeling sorry for the neighboring house. So, I decided to build a 30x40m wall for them and I put up a full rez snow mountain scene on my land with my prims to block all the signs from my neighbor's view.

But some of the other guy's sign were pretty high, so I made another sign--this time with hot air balloons on it, but it is only 20x30m. The signs are phantom and transparent from the reverse side.

And, since that took me a long time, I figured more people would like the scenery signs, so I listed the whole bundle on slexchange as a freebie .


Like I said if you think I'm out of line, let me know. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

I do believe people are missing the point here.. it is NOT the political message... I nor otheres couldnt give a rats arse as to what anyone builds on THERE land.. here are the key points


1) he buys a 32m plot and places a sign so large it encroaches onto other peoples property.And offers to sell you this prime piece of property, to remove this monsterous sign at a OUTRAGEOUS price... for what? a proffit... get it?? this isnt a political statement... He buys property so close to people homes and businesses and places these signs to piss them off and force them to buy the property, WHY? because they dont want to look at this sign..Have you looked at some of the pictures??? ignorance isnt bliss here.. get your heads out of your (censored) and listen to the points.


2) I dont think anyone should say what someone can and cant build on there land... BUT i do believe thay should monitor land extorters such as this (censored) what was done to you Siggy was WRONG and I am sorry that happened to you, we need more beautiful builds in SL.. and less crap 32m sign plots priced at 1k-5k placed on peoples homes. this is my point.

3) I wouldnt want to wake up in the morning and find a buildboard outside my seaview home and no longer sea the beach, because som guy decised he could make a buck by sticking up a sign and forcing me to buy some land so i can have my view back.. it wouldnt work in r/l it's against the law.. it wont work in here.. it's against the law.. I hope SL is reading my emails.

4)Baghera... Joy ty u guys rock and everyone else who has been completely supportive !!! Something will be done one way or another i will assure u of that..

5) My suggestion to those who dont understand, agree, care or whatever... do a search under the landsales ..click on the area button and bring up the smallest to the top.. u will see the impeach bush ones come to the top... tp to some of them... look around at how many there are in one area... look at the prices he is selling them for... look at the peoples land he is near.. look at how close the peoples homes.. now remember alot have just moved because of it... fly to more... i have found 3 areas he had done to the same persons places ... he really must not like them... i found that to be a clear cut case of harassment.. go to check out more... you will be doing that for hours upon hours... then let me know what u think..

Don't forget to look at the businesses they're near as well. My business has plumited since he started up with his signs. My traffic, no joke, in the matter of a few days has dropped from 1500+ to 227 as of today. People don't wanna come around because of them. I have a wall up wich covers them all, but people know they're there and I feel sorry for my neighbors who also had to put up a wall of their own. If this BS countinues I will driven out of my home and business wich will soon (if it hasn't happened already) to other people and small businesses. This guy is already starting to hurt the ecomony that LL seems to be so intent on keeping stable yet they do nothing about this guy.

Ron... I forgot to TY U rock too Sorry your Business has suffered... I still have yet to recieve a reply to my email to support (imagine that LOL ) I might just give a call when I get back to work (been out sick hope to get back next week) I hope they have caller ID ROFL.... Anyone know how many times a month they check support email????

ok now Im totally disgusted... I just found a real nice show of harassment towards a resident.. Burnet (16, 51) he's selling all the land he has there for a total of $10,000 He has 6 signs plus one spinning box sign... one of the signs is a super big 4 piece linked sign..*rolls eyes* the owner of the land he is griefing put up a wall .. but she is trying to sell her land..

Interesting. I just visited that location and I noticed another name on plots in amongst our old friend's.