Post your Impeach Bush Pictures across the internet.

Well Linden Lab calls it freedom of speach and does not see this fine art as abuse. So I am encouraging everyone to post pictures of your IMPEACH BUSH signs across the internet so everyone can see how creative we are here in SL. If you have a website put them up..Send snapshots to slpics.com. Make them visible and show everyone what to expect.

Do I sound annoyed? Well here is the view from my shop.

I agree completely. LL's hands off policy regarding these signs is pure inept bullshit. But what do you expect. They won't even take action to protect resident IP, so signs don't even register.

It's the thing to do! I'm just starting my own Impeach Bush campaign. Just the one spot now (Munro (2,8), but I'm working on it.

Damn, I would be pretty pissed off too if that crap was around my land. I'm all for people voicing their opinions, but this kind of stuff seems more juvenile to me than just someone making a statement. I would think only one display would be sufficient for making an opinion known. When something like what the pic is showing is displayed, it is nothing less than Visual Griefing and should be dealt with by LL.

Why some people feel the need to ruin SL for others with these displays is way beyond me...

I went to a clothing store earlier today in Loon and was shocked. There were seven of those horrid things right outside the store. And here I thought the two outside my home was bad enough.

Don't get aggrovated, rent land

Sorry had to, that sucks!

That's a great idea, Beau!

And it gave me another idea. We could all get signs like that of our own and put them up all over our own land!

This guy's extortion technique wouldn't really work very well if everybody did the same thing and put up all the signs on their own land, would it?

coco

I got new spot about 6k sq nice spot and infront of me I was going buy this little spot waiting for my money to transfer then bang the impeach guy buys it. Now I have impeach signs 1sq away from my lot and he got this 512 lot too so theres tons of room there and well now im screwed.

I lost 40k L's

If anyones intrested in buying it let me know witch I know no one will now he basicly made the land value from 40k to 1k in mins.

know what I'm also going to do that I'm going go onto MMORPG now and post your image! I think linden needs to learn we can play there game too!

Like my latest Screenshot on MMORPG!

http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/83/setView/screens/filename/uglysl.jpg/newScreen/5259

Coz THATS showing SL in the best possible light for potential members..

anyone else like post screenshots I will post them on mmorpg

nothing to see here. move along.

Very good idea for a change. Make sure to credit the images as "Second Life Screenshot" so they'll appear in searches. But where would you post these images, aside from a personal blog?

Maybe people should send snapshots as postcards, to the Secondlife.com front page. If potential new residents see those signs everytime they click the map for a screenshot, maybe LL will decide to acknowledge this issue one way or other (by blocking your snaps from the front page, by charging your actions as abusive, or by removing the signs, or by changing the minimun parcel size.)

I'm not concerned with the message of the signs, since I believe in freedom of speech. My problem is the impact that such a small parcel of land can have on an entire region. For example, that 16sqm. parcel represents 1/4096th of the entire sim.... that's 0.0244% of the sim. However, the sign has a considerable negative impact for about 25% of the sim if it's in a corner, or 100% if in the center. And for every 512sqm. single parcel of first land, there could be 32 of these 16sqm. parcels.

For that reason, I feel LL modify the small parcel of land a resident can own per sim to 512sqm. No, that wouldn't stop the signs, but yes, it would put more of a financial burden on the folks using this advertisement method. It would potentially do away with 96% of the sign parcels. A person would still be allowed to subdivide their land on the 16sqm. grid, but shouldn't be allowed to transfer or own less than the 512sqm. min.

The problem with this would be, how to transition to this goal. I feel LL wouldn't mind going towards a larger minimun parcel, but they haven't figured out how to do it. What would they do with all those 16sqm plots scattered throughout the land? My solution could be costly for LL, but it would be similar to what RL goverments do... imminent domain. Yes, it's an ugly word, and recently it's being abused by governments all over. But, that's my solution. LL pays landowners with less that 512sqm. within a sim the fair market value for the land - not the highly over-priced list price on those tiny plots, but the adjusted average price based on the 512sqm. parcel sales prices in that region. Then, LL would release the land at L$ per sqm. Only the residents currently within the sim would be allowed to purchase the parcels (since they already own the 512sqm. minimum. With any luck, the smaller parcels will be absorbed over time into larger whole parcels.

The solution is clear. *makes new sig* :>

Also perhaps making a giant 60x60m one atop my skybox that's visible on the world map.

The thing is, if they tell him he cannot have them, then they open Pandora's box. Other people will then lobby to have other sorts of annoyances removed. Then we have an even bigger problem. He obvously knows this, and is exploiting it, like a good asshat does.

That said - they drive me nuts, and I think that everyone should just ban the guy from their land, and I urge all land sellers to ban him from parcels they are selling too.

Banning from a parcel won't stop him from buying it, but banning him in general will hinder his movements wich would make things alot harder for him to just get around. I got a security orb on my land set to send him home should he enter my parcel's space. Times like these security orbs that eject from land or send home are a good thing.

It HAS to be addressed LL....please DO something.

Oh, I know it won't stop him buying land Ron, I am just thinking that it will be a large hindrance for him while out doing his deeds, if 1000s of for-sale parcels have the red bars up for him.

I know On-Art has started doing it, and I do it on the few parcels that I trade. I urge other land traders to do so as well.

It's his land, he's free to do that.

If we remove them, next time it'll be your sign they'll remove.

I remember them removing a Swastika sign because it was 'likely to cause offence'. And yet it was actually being used in context. Not as a protest or whatever.

I would imagine a large number of american residents would take offence to calls to impeach their president and commander in chief.

But then LL are two faced anyway. Actually, they're multi-dimensionally faced. What treatment you get usually depends on both who you are and what Linden deals with you, because they don't appear to have any real rules, only (bad) judgment calls.

Not really. A large number of Americans would argue over calls to impeach the president - loudly, and for months, and in court! - but they would not take offense at it. It is part of the legal process.

A large number of Americans would take offense, though, at land extortion.

Which, Issarlk, is what this is, and it is ALL this is, done with impunity and multiple times all over the map.

coco

Yes, one is allowed to build on ones land what one wish, BUT this is not building , this is using the land for a) griefing ( making it ugly for others) b) blackmailing ( pay 2000Lindedn for my 16 sqm to get rid of the shit). I would belive both are against TOS.
Good idea to start banning him from all land, as a matter of fact I have access to quite much land *grin*

2000L?? I just found a 16 sq m plot in Batak that's set to sell for 10,000L with an impeach Bush sgn on it.

Yeah, let's fine or ban every user with bad taste or poor aesthetics values.




Yeah, let's cap the sale prices! (maximum l$/sqm= 50, for example)

Irony aside, what would you do if this guy put those (ugly) signs on land he wasn't willing to sell?

If he did not have the land for sale, I could belive his sign would be there to spread a cause eg, he would feel it important for others to know something.

I knew someone would start to argue esthetics, however, I do not see anything else in this than griefing. I am aware people build houses, clubs, sculptures etc that might not be nice looking in the eyes of others, fine with me, but when someone tries to get a 16-32sqm lot in each sim for the sole purpose of a) making it look ugly/annoy b) price the uglyness very high, hoping someone would buy and pay his tier and fund more griefing. I am sorry if I have missed some esthetic beauty in this.

I am against price regulation of land of course, however, it do annoy me when ppl mark their land for sale for 99999999 to make it show up in the "land for sale" list, which is without this way cluttered up and hard to read. In my opinion no prim land is worth 125-625l/sqm