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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:59
From: Kittyn Fuhr
and if SL is a "porn website" as you seem to imply....then why are you still here?


Like I said, I am going to see what Linden Lab does.
Da5id Weatherwax
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03-26-2009 20:59
From: Nany Kayo
Linden Lab's own viewpoint is considered extreme in this forum. Clearly, Linden Labs believes this place is swamped in porn, or they would not be trying to clear it out, would they?


How long have you been on the net Nanny? I hope its long enough to understand my next line....

*plonk*
Uriel Wheeler
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03-26-2009 21:02
From: Nany Kayo
Then why the hell do you think this policy change has even been proposed? Why would Linden Labs put itself to this kind of trouble if pornography was not a serious issue?


For what it's worth, I've yet to actually *stumble* into anything sexual other than griefers. I had a person offer me a blind TP to a sex club, but I'd lump that into griefing, really.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 21:04
From: Milla Janick
Your statement was nonsense. I can explore for days and not see any porn, much less be swamped with it.

Businesses, colleges and universities are already all over SL. The idea that they're being scared off by the adult material is nonsense.


you are wrong.
Skatoulaki Nakamori
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03-26-2009 21:04
From: Nany Kayo
Linden Lab's own viewpoint is considered extreme in this forum. Clearly, Linden Labs believes this place is swamped in porn, or they would not be trying to clear it out, would they?

Actually, they claim adult material only makes up 2-4% of the content in SL:) Hardly "swamped" with it. They're doing what most Americans seem to do - dumbing the place down to protect the idiots who can't turn the other cheek. (And before I get in trouble for American-bashing, I AM one) When people can't take responsibility for their own actions (if you don't like a place, don't visit it!), it forces others to think they have to do it for them.
Uriel Wheeler
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03-26-2009 21:05
From: Nany Kayo
The sex industry is the only kind of business that will use a porn website.



Um.. Second Life is a "website"?
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 21:05
From: Uriel Wheeler
For what it's worth, I've yet to actually *stumble* into anything sexual other than griefers. I had a person offer me a blind TP to a sex club, but I'd lump that into griefing, really.


I had to step over two couples dragging naked slaves in a texture store at 9am today.
Skatoulaki Nakamori
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03-26-2009 21:06
From: Nany Kayo
I had to step over two couples dragging naked slaves in a texture store at 9am today.

Then you should have AR'd them and reported them to the store owner. LOL
Uriel Wheeler
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03-26-2009 21:07
From: Nany Kayo
I had to step over two couples dragging naked slaves in a texture store at 9am today.


You must shop at different texture stores than I. Seriously.
Belize Carver
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Interesting.
03-26-2009 21:07
What if someone doesnt have a credit card? What if someone doesnt have a way for age verification that doesnt involve faxing and mailing a copy of something to someone else? I dont have a credit card nor do I have a checkcard to verify my age. It seems sorta obscure to me that the ones who are responsible adults have to pay for bring an adult and responsible.
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 21:08
From: Nany Kayo
I guess so. From what I can tell from the viewpoints being expressed here, the only reason for anyone to use Second Life is for sex.


Well then your either an idiot or just intentionally acting dumb. I even myself told you hundreds of examples of what I like to do besides just sex and everyone in this forum has done the same. No one is suggesting here that sex is the only thing that SL can be used for. Even my club is not for sex only, it's for chatting, relaxing, and I have a Mahjong table setup in the center of the couchs that I just put in place the other day. It's actually very popular and we're been playing it alot. We have a beach outside, we race cars for some fun sometimes, joke around with gestures etc...

But at the same time, we have 3 dance poles people like to dance on for fun, and a underground room that can be used for sex RP's. And sometimes for the hell of it we do things in openchat to entertain ourselves.

The only person who thinks SL is completely about sex is YOU. What we're trying to say is that SL should be a place where people can be able to do whatever they like, including sex, without restriction or judgement. It is an 18+ online virtual world, and it's only for adults. We're all mature adults here and thus should be able to all be in the virtual world together and just work together and get along. There is no need to separate us all and push the "sex industry" to the corner. That's not what this is about, I'm not the 'sex industry', I'm just a person who doesn't mind having some erotic fun in my virtual club occasionally with some guests.


EDIT: Pretty much the basis of Nany's argument seems to be just:

From: Nany Kayo
you are wrong.


Which is nothing more than just an example of close minded thinking.
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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 21:09
From: Skatoulaki Nakamori
Actually, they claim adult material only makes up 2-4% of the content in SL:) Hardly "swamped" with it. They're doing what most Americans seem to do - dumbing the place down to protect the idiots who can't turn the other cheek. (And before I get in trouble for American-bashing, I AM one) When people can't take responsibility for their own actions (if you don't like a place, don't visit it!), it forces others to think they have to do it for them.


Yeah, that makes perfect sense. The reason LL is putting itself through all of this is no reason at all.
Lylani Bellic
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03-26-2009 21:10
From: Uriel Wheeler
You must shop at different texture stores than I. Seriously.


Well duh, she searches for mature places and then complains that that's all she can find when she succeeds.
Maxine Kohime
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03-26-2009 21:10
Im very concerned now, that could be the end of SL!
The things are not so easy to sort out, many people are involved in "adult" stuff, and not all wanna go to a "red light disstrict", thats embarresing. What is with the RP sims for example, like Gor, most are violent, sure its not on mainland. But all adult content sims have to flag and to restrict access, only age verifyed avies may enter. And a lot of us dont want to give any personal datas...that could mean a mass exodus of people!
They take her time and her money with. Means a lot of sellers will loose a lot of business.
Even the sellers not offering adult content.

Next is, everybody leaving can pull his friends with to other internet places. SL community will loose more and more members, they take thier L$s with also...

All can go down in a SL economy crises...landprice can decrease, for example and so on...

LG Maxine
Alisha Matova
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03-26-2009 21:10
From: Brenda Connolly
This was posted in a thread in RA...I think it is a very simple and elegantly stated idea, and I am in agreement with it 100%
I hope the OP doesn't mind .


It was me, the subjects got me repeating myself..

/327/b4/312964/1.html#post2363576

edit: but honestly, being accused of plagiarism sucks. I'm walking away, enjoy your forum.
Ciera Spyker
Queen of SL
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03-26-2009 21:11
From: Kittyn Fuhr
and if SL is a "porn website" as you seem to imply....then why are you still here?


DING DING DING we have a winna!!!

GO if you dont like it here. No ones forcing you to play. and if your sooooooo upset and want ti closed off (yet accessible ) I want full access to every university an campus and business on SLs grid..
yeah, its not gonna happen...

so.
Porn MADE the internet. Dont forget that for one moment.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 21:11
From: Uriel Wheeler
You must shop at different texture stores than I. Seriously.


Biggest one in SL, as far as I know.
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 21:15
From: Nany Kayo
as far as I know.


*can't help but giggle*
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Phoenix Welles
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03-26-2009 21:15
From: Ciera Spyker

so.
Porn MADE the internet. Dont forget that for one moment.


/me starts randomly singing

"the internet is for porn, the internet is for porn"
Katheryne Helendale
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03-26-2009 21:15
From: Quixotic Hermit
Did you ever stop to think that maybe LL wants to clean up it's own reputation? Any article regarding SL that I read on the Internet is usually followed by comments from people who don't get it or think it is a place for perverts. This is the overwhelming view of what SL is to most people who don't understand it.
That is the overwhelming view of ANY technology by someone who doesn't understand it. Ask anyone what the Internet about who has not embraced it, and he or she will likely tell you it's full of porn and pedophiles and has no redeeming qualities. Such is life. There are, however, at least 70 thousand people logged on right now who, regardless of what SL may be for the media-spoonfed, believe it is for them.
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Dhyana Writer
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03-26-2009 21:17
Whoever doubts/denies that SL is being used by people to make $ with porn and sex services, doesn't have enough traffic or never checks profiles.

I'm amazed at the amount of people who have RL explicit photos in their profiles and offer all kind of sex services, voice and camera included. I assume their customers are taken away from SL for this, and how do they pay? I have no idea, but some advertise their rates in lindens, some profiles also have web links to pages where I assume they have other methods of payments.

Since we are cleaning up the house; maybe we also need a 'report' button on profiles, so when we press on that someone at LL checks the profile and see if this is going on or not. Don't we have enough with SL photos of prostitutes? Though in my book is almost the same thing.
Ciera Spyker
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03-26-2009 21:18
i have a sadly misguided family member who to this day refuses to have cable TV because in her words. "Satan crawls into my house and tempts me"

((Yeah we dont get along))
Brenda Connolly
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03-26-2009 21:19
From: Grady Vuckovic
Are the SL churchs brothels too? I think they might take offense to that.


And NASA/JPL/ISM.....OMG the rockets look like giant penises!!!!!! :eek:

LL says 2-4 % is Adult oriented? Doesn't sound like that translates to porn everywhere you look to me. Unless you are looking for porn, than I guess you could find it every YOU look.
After all, some children claim to see monsters in every closet they look into.
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Selene Gregoire
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03-26-2009 21:20
From: Nany Kayo
I am sure I am not the only one watching the outcome on this, to see whether Second Life has any genuine value and future as a technology, or if it is nothing but a stinking sex toy running out of juice.



If you think SL is "nothing but a stinking sex toy running out of juice", then why are you still in SL? Don't bother to answer. I know it will be the same old song and dance that's been heard a thousand times before here.

I've been in SL for 5 years and I KNOW that is NOT what SL is about. Never has been and never will be. As has been stated many times by many including Lindens the "adult content" comprises only a VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE of SL.
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Ciera Spyker
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03-26-2009 21:21
From: Dhyana Writer
Whoever doubts/denies that SL is being used by people to make $ with porn and sex services, doesn't have enough traffic or never checks profiles.

I'm amazed at the amount of people that have RL explicit photos in their profiles and offer all kind of sex services, voice and camera included. I assume they are taken away from SL for this, and how do they pay? I have no idea, but some advertise their rates in lindens. Others have web links to pages where I assume they have other methods of payments.

Since we are cleaning up the house; maybe we also need a 'report' button on profiles, so when we press on that someone at LL checks the profile and see if this is going on or not. Don't we have enough with SL photos of prostitutes? Though in my book is almost the same thing.



cool ------ I'll start with your profile first as im sure it will offend me in some way shape or form.

whose to decide morals? you me linden labs--- no in this case it all comes down to that belly crawlin evil spawn PayPal.