Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

And that's exactly the issue. You cannot know all the grid, it's to massive. You go to where you know and that (ironically *rolls eyes*) is Adult/Mature and then you complain that you can't find anything else.

Perhaps if you minus your ego out of the equation you'd see that the "biggest" and "best" places in SL, that you know of, doesn't mean they are the biggest or best or that all other ones on the grid are Adult/Mature simply because the ones you go to are.

For someone so opposed to Mature content you sure seem to have a lot of exposure to it, those of us who enjoy it and take part in it seem to come across it less then you do. I wonder how that works...

Maybe we should just make all of grid rated for teens then? Take all adult content out completely and don't allow swearing, sex, voilence, naughty pictures, porn etc.

... Oh wait, they did that with Teen Grid right?.. yea that is .. popular right? I don't know, never been there, or know anyone who has.

That is complete and total BULLSHIT! Try visiting one of my sims. You WON'T find anything like that in either one.


Geez either get over it or die from it already ffs.

Personally, if the fake cartoon nasties keep the corporations from trying to sell me their garbage in SL, I will be very happy. Let THEM create OS Sims as someone suggested. Then they can control it all they want.

I'm terribly sorry to just ask this but I cant seem to find it in the blogs - did anyone post about Jack Lindens office hours this afternoon? It was really quite encouraging overall!

What happened to freedom, where did we all go wrong with how we can choose what we want to see or hear , why is this more of a problem in the US then in many other countries, specially sex related? Did the Lindens put PG and Mature up for no reason at all?
Does this system just want to go under because of a few so called rightious people who want to voice their opinion? Maybe the majority should not only voice their opinion here but to congress and even to the president about these types of changes, keeping a grasp or lack of freedom for us all.I really think it should be up to whoever owns or rents their property in any market to say if people can have what is considered adult content aka mature.maybe it would be better to make a third party system to exclude all mature content if that is what one chooses but why make all suffer for it.Maybe we need the US Bill of Rights brought into SL to remind all of everyones rights in the US since SL servers are mostly in the US or govern by the US. Maybe SL needs a goverment system just like any country even though it is online.

I agree with many on here , SL is not all about sex but its nice to know if that is what you choose to do , its your right. I tend to chat and build as much as I can, I work in SL here and there and try my best to get by, only changes I see needed is to set the system to be more stable and lay off the politics and religion, but thats everyones right.

Fight the Power, Freedom to the People !!!

WWooooo somethign we agree on...
If i want to waste my time going to KellogBay or MarsBar central I will. But im not trying to tel lthem how to run their life.

but honestly.. its all a mute point this isnt a real world, its a business game and everyone is just a pawn.

Myself I split my day between working out my dolly subs. ((so much fun)) or blowing things up in a combat sim -- no sex there.....

So sl is what you make it.
What does need to be dealt with is people with frakin banlines all over mainland and putting a zillion sculpty trees on a 512 lot. THATS worse than porn.

Being from Australia, I would say I would prefer a less US style system of government.. to be honest, watching from afar, it doesn't seem to be doing you any favors lately (Sorry, trying not be offensive about it, just saying, not what I would prefer).

Although the idea of a government is SL is a good idea really. We could elect people and put them incharge of sending our messages to LL, and then if LL ignores them, we can say LL is ignoring all of SL as a whole. That could work. Doesn't mean that LL will have to do what we say, but at the same time makes it more clear with LL doesn't do what we want. Then they can't say "We're doing this because the users wanted it", then they have to admit they are doing it because they want it.

It would be nice to see Adult content filtered or only allowed in certain places but at some point it's kind of unfair this is supposed to be an Adult World.

The 'adult filter' is at the front door for SL, since this is an adult service. And what content a person see's is just up to them, whatever they search for, and visit. :3

LOOK...
LISTEN...
LEARN...

the ONLY way to make a impact as to how many play in adult settings or support it is to stage a day (24hr) where you just dont login.

Period....




SO?
Can it be done? Would it prove anything.. (actually it would if it was done correctly.) No one could cheat and alt in. No one could go ooops i didnt know, your precious business will survive a day with no prim torture...

but to many of you are so hooked the trick will be to stay away. getting all the sheep to understand and play at the same time is hard to do.


I doubt many have the will power to do it.

Here is my last attempt to actually help you. Have you made me angry enough to express the ideas with a tone of spite? Yes. Fair enough. Is there some USEFUL and potentially helpful information in this for you if you actually pay attention? Unfortunately, yes, you could kick ass and take names if you bothered to think through and implement either or both of these. It's been done before:

1) The Lindens have affiliate arrangements with various groups and media properties that involve a branded sign up and ingestion process. If there's actually a "we" involved. Work on starting one with the Lindens. You can funnel your people through a community YOU build and you can teach them how to avoid us perverts.

2) There are numerous existing controls in place that you resolutely refuse to avail yourself of even without that measure including building your promoted 'shell' as a web site. A web site. It's this thing made from HTML, CSS and JavaScript that you can view in web browser? You've heard of those right? They're nothing like SecondLife. On a web site you pay for hosting and you make ALL the rules just for your widdle self. YOU control the community standards based on what *you* put the effort into. Look into it. The *same* is true for your land and your communityin SL by the way but the controls are *better* now.
The outreach to the 'International Community" you claim to want to reach is easier and better on the web. Using that shell, you can convene your community, teach them in a 'safe' context and bring them to your content and other content you have deemed 'appropriate'. The assumes we don't all ban your groups from our land of course. The Slurl is your friend. Oh and before you fling up the inevitable "But I want to do it in SL". Get a clue. Your potential audience and capacity to BRING people to SL is MANY orders of magnitude larger on the web. As it is now, you claim to speak the will of a majority that has shown NO sign of supporting your narrow minded view.

I have alluded to both of these approaches in past posts and you have resolutely refused to follow up with ANY indication you actually wanted to determine your own fate and your own success. You prefer to twist the world around you to bend somebody ELSE'S efforts to your needs. Step the %^&* up and be an adult and an innovator and entrepreneur in your pursuit of 'education'.

As of now you've shown nothing but lonely, shallow narrow-minded, bitterness and derision and behaved in a truly vile and loathsome manner doing it.

The above two suggestions are PLENTY for somebody who is as resourced as you clam to be to get started. I even gave you this URL in a past post: http://secondlifegrid.net/technology-programs/join-solution-provider-program

Oh, and before you ask. My consulting rates for this kind of project are $140US/Hour. For you, $1000/Hr billed in advance with a non-refundable deposit.

See you next tuesday,
- Kyle

WOOF! go get 'em Ciera,...

Was just using the US as an example, sing SL is now worldwide, it would be more logical to set a world goverment just like it would be to set a world trade, I do not think any goverment is perfect and never will be. We elect people into office to voice our comments and concerns as a whole, I dont think our freedoms as they are now should be taken away , most the world has fought for freedom.

This has been suggested many, many times over the years. Sorry, Grady, but it just won't work in SL. Those of us who have been here for years and are not FIC already know that LL doesn't listen to us those of us who are not FIC and likely never will no matter what we say or do. SL is LL's baby and they will pamper it, neglect it, be indifferent to it, or what have you as they chose or as the FIC chooses.

*points to Nany Kayo*

This ladies and gents is the type of person who tells us we cant call a black board in a school a black board because ethnic minorities might be offended. This ladies and gents is the type of person who says we cant call a manhole a manhole and a fireman a fireman cause its sexist. This ladies and gents is the type of person who says we need to change baa baa black sheep to baa baa rainbow sheep so it doesnt sound racist...

...this ladies and gentleman is the 2 to 4% that Linden Labs is listening to.

THIS is the FUTURE of Second Life?

Wait. Now I'm confused. Is it 2-4% of the content is of an adult nature or is it the other way around? If adult content is as ubiquitous as Nany states. Make a PG island, route the new players through there and let them choose what content they want and leave the rest of us the heck alone.

If it's as Nany states then the Lindens are throwing a hail mary pass trying to completely change their customer base. ONE of these things has to be true. Looking at the volume of posts on each side of this debate, the answers should be obvious.

- Kyle

Oh that's right. I'm one of the people you despise.........

Sorry about that. I promise to wash my toys in the future.

and was this in a PG area, or Mature. if it was Mature...then why were you there? if you don't wish to view Mature items, then don't show up there.

In the last hour,

payment info traffic scanner:
scanned avatars = 10
no payment info on file = 7
payment info on file = 0
payment info used = 3

(Sindy's script is free at
https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1339636

Thank you, Sindy. I've placed your free scanner at all of my larger locations, both adult and PG. The totals will be interesting, but it will also be instructive to see... will the shops show a higher percentage of PIOFs, than the free social spaces? Or are NPIOFs doing just as much shopping/spending as anyone else?

I will report back here in a day or two. I hope many other land owners will use your scanner too, so that we can all get some sense of percentages.

Don't like it? Go to IMVU....ohhhhhhhh wait thats right!

YOU are the type of person who wants the entire world to change to suit what they like, to heck with the majority...its all "me me me" with your demographic...and it happens to be the same demographic that the lab is listening to.

My last try and I really try to help you out of your tunnel view:

Only a few of thousands, - literal thousands - of examples, okej? Would you please be so kind and give these examples some reading and understanding attention?

The University of design of the german city Karlsruhe is in game, for example. And they do not complain!

The Guggenheim museum is somewhere represented and some years before some pics of avatars, transformed into very big canvas pics, found there way into the real Guggenheim museum in NY, by some artists who visited the game.

Old Rome is in game on an interactive adventurful but decent sim. Very real replicated.

The world famous philosoph Peter Sloterdijk and the Vienna Media Philosopher Peter Weibel has their avaters here, and much of their students experimenting on their islands with the possibilities of the game. Next step. The technical university Vienna is in game, even the City of Vienna, even Zagreb, und so much more.

The city of San Francisco has a representative island. Tokyo, Italy, Barcelona. Nearly any bigger city is somehow active here, made by fans or by officials.

Or: Search live events, listen there to live music of maybe for example Maximillion Kleene or Frogg Marlow and Jaycatt Nine (if I remember the names right) or to Juel Ressstance or Grace McDunnough or hundreds of even excellent artists wich I cannot name all because the list is endless and they do perform each day or as often as possible, relax, catch the atmosphere, calm down, look into the sundown while that, and get an idea about what all second life is actualy.

It helps to understand the different locations and atmospheres and meet polite and very nice people there.

There are also extraordinaire great architects and architecture in game, I cannot advetising them here, to be not unfair to other good architects, but they are there, with wonderful buildings and prefabs. Some would be perfect for your events and meetings when you start.

We have serious fashion and art locations, or fascianting multimedia projects like a sim called black swan and art events like the yearly burning life event wich goes over a whole week.

We have a shakespeare themed sim in game. we have PG adventure games on sims. we have a big sailing community and other sports wich are established through great building-scripting and organisation talents. And I think you missed the wintertime while some nice themed locations were decorated and themed.

A wonderful female person created years before an island or some, with an artistic self recreating living functional nature environment, we have historical places here, we have even native locations here...with native items and native music and culture

I am over 2 years in game and I saw thousands and thousands of mainland and island places and even owned some with my group and by myself - and after all, i saw maybe only 5% of all developements and content and I am surpised every day new, because every day new somewhere appears a new attraction made by new people, or experienced people with new ideas, with often fantastic skills and ideas.

You need to explore that in peace and with open eyes and not focused on whatever.

We have Jazz clubs here, elegant ballrooms, classes for learning, museums, galleries, some governments of some countries have kind of embassadorie sims here, we have the EU in here and political partys, each and everything is here, if you open your eyes - you can find interesting internet websites where people sampled interesting places and gave the slurls and landmarks in - even info-material and pictures.

You need to be proactive and you will find fascination after fascination and all are safe, friendly, high intelligent and free of sex or violence if you want so.

There is no need to attack us or other people, even not the adult biz, because it is decent and professional enough to be not everywhere.

This is here a mirror of the whole planet, all cultures and all sorts of talents and characters, - if you can live with that colorful mix, welcome.

If not, than . sorry. You just have to accept that a whole planet is attached under your both feet - with all good and bads and second life is the same principe.

But if you start here fights and a one women show against anyone and everything, you will not earn much friends or interested people for your projects.

If you accept the diversity in game and concentrate professional of the technical and content aspects of your project, then you will be successful.

Just that easy - but no exception. It works only so, or it works never.

I would company you to some complete safe PG and friendly locations, to stabilize the here by that very short and very incomplete sampling of tipps and given impressions, but you will have to find another tourist guide, because I am occasionaly a vampire, I would bite you sooner or later and drink all your ava-blood, hehehehehe)))) (joke)

Wow! You're just not trying! At all!

I'm not even logged in tonight, and I can recite from memory places that are not only free of porn, but are free of mature content in general! Oh! And one of them is a public sandbox located on mainland! Imagine that!