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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:35
From: Katheryne Helendale
Agreed. Now answer the question.


If this is indeed nothing but a porn website, you are correct. No business, educational institution or philanthropy will have anything to do with it, any more than they would any other porn site.
Wynochee LeShelle
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03-26-2009 20:37
From: Nany Kayo
Maybe Second Life is nothing but a porn website like the people here are insisting it is.

This confrontation will settle the matter.

If Linden Lab yields to the sex industry, this is a pornography website, and business, nonprofit and education have no place here.


Buy an island, hold your meetings there, no one will disturb you and your gang there, and put your nose out of other peoples stuff.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:38
I am sure I am not the only one watching the outcome on this, to see whether Second Life has any genuine value and future as a technology, or if it is nothing but a stinking sex toy running out of juice.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:39
From: Wynochee LeShelle
Buy an island, hold your meetings there, no one will disturb you and your gang there, and put your nose out of other peoples stuff.


We need access to as broad an international venue as possible. We are here to meet the whole world.

If this is nothing but a porn site, it is useless. We don't want to meet people in a brothel.
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 20:40
From: Nany Kayo
Maybe Second Life is nothing but a porn website like the people here are insisting it is.

This confrontation will settle the matter.

If Linden Lab yields to the sex industry, this is a pornography website, and business, nonprofit and education have no place here.


You just don't get it do you? We should both be able to live in the same grid without restrictions on either of us! If you can't stand to live in a place where there is folks you don't like, then leave! Because we have every right to be here as much as you!

From: Wynochee LeShelle

I think we should trick them out. Renaming all incriminated things and giving them new meanings.

Principe: a painter or an author is not and never responsible for all what a reader or a visitor of amuseum is seeing in an artwork.

Some people committing suicide after reading Goethes "Werther", some people starting to dance on the table after reading Goethes "Werther".This or that is never the problem of the author.

We should trick their new censoring system with all creativity we have, to make them as crazy and confuse and mad and unusable as possible. (Wich is the same they do with us, so it will be the right answer!) We should do really mad things, complete nonsense, hacking and infecting the censor and rating system with all available alphabetical and semantic tricks including to give all functions complete different meanings and the same to all sorts of acting!.

RP can be renamed in "philosophical seminar" or whatever.

We can give all "adult" or "mature" things totaly harmless names and also other descriptions for their functions and vice versa we can rename a skateboard for example "penis" and a coffeecup "pussy" and an umbrella "nipple".

Same with editable poseballs. New forms, new names, new description of functions.

What said Torley ever in every video? "Be creative"..., hehehe

And all acting we can call for example "neo-tango" or "alternative sport", whatever.

In other words: we can make a whole big mess with their plans, instead of waiting passive until we are not longer able to be active.

Because, at the moment we are in lemming-status. This has to end. Let's show them what we have learned as prim- and alphabetic- and acting- transforming-fantasy- artists all the years.


I love this idea and personally I think it would be a great thing to start doing.
"Ride my skateboard for all I care!" - That could turn out to be a very popular phrase. I'll start going around SL now with a skateboard attached to my crotch. See what reaction I get. :3

Edit: Wow Nany is getting annoying. I don't think I can ever remember meeting someone so closed minded before. It's like 2009 vs 1959 in here. x_X

From: Nany Kayo
We need access to as broad an international venue as possible. We are here to meet the whole world.

If this is nothing but a porn site, it is useless. We don't want to meet people in a brothel.


Simple solution, don't go to the brothels! Who the hell is making you search for a brothel and then making you teleport there and talk to people?? Those establishments are there functioning all by themselves and not bothering anyone, and no one is making you visit them!
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Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 20:44
From: Nany Kayo
We need access to as broad an international venue as possible. We are here to meet the whole world.

If this is nothing but a porn site, it is useless. We don't want to meet people in a brothel.


Simple solution, don't go to the brothels! Who the hell is making you search for a brothel and then making you teleport there and talk to people?? Those establishments are there functioning all by themselves and not bothering anyone, and no one is making you visit them!
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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:45
From: Grady Vuckovic
You just don't get it do you? We should both be able to live in the same grid without restrictions on either of us! If you can't stand to live in a place where there is folks you don't like, then leave! Because we have every right to be here as much as you!


The sex industry is the only kind of business that will use a porn website.
Wynochee LeShelle
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03-26-2009 20:46
From: Nany Kayo
We need access to as broad an international venue as possible. We are here to meet the whole world.

If this is nothing but a porn site, it is useless. We don't want to meet people in a brothel.


And? There is no problem. Announce your meetings in events. Interested people will drop in. Any time new ones or fans or both.

Same what all musicians and other artists doing in game. Buy/rent a place, announce your events and all is good.

And your island is the safe haven for this. Water around, no sex, no nothing, and one person makes security in case a griefer drops in.

This is the normal way to do things here.
Fudgey Jenkins
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03-26-2009 20:48
"good analogy. Arguments here would suggest that Disney would make a lot of money because the sex industry is such a profitable and important part of entertainment."

are you that stupid nany? Disney doesn't just own disney

they also own miramax

Adventureland (2009)
Blindness (2008) (had a mass rape in it)
Scary Movie 2 (2001) (lotta male parts in this one!)

oh and
Pulp Fiction (1994)

silly nany =P

seems like even disney gets money through the sex thing.. sorry..
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:48
No one has to search for the brothels. The whole damned place is a brothel. You can't search for anything or go anywhere in Second Life without being swamped with porn.
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 20:48
From: Nany Kayo
The sex industry is the only kind of business that will use a porn website.


This isn't a single website! It's a whole collection of regions and places inside a virtual world, that people can visit based on their own preferences, there is nothing stopping anyone from enjoying SL in whatever way they want, that's the beauty of it! And what these rules will do is end that completely.
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Milla Janick
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03-26-2009 20:50
From: Nany Kayo
No one has to search for the brothels. The whole damned place is a brothel. You can't search for anything or go anywhere in Second Life without being swamped with porn.

Nonsense.
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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:50
From: Wynochee LeShelle
And? There is no problem. Announce your meetings in events. Interested people will drop in. Any time new ones or fans or both.

Same what all musicians and other artists doing in game. Buy/rent a place, announce your events and all is good.

And your island is the safe haven for this. Water around, no sex, no nothing, and one person makes security in case a griefer drops in.

This is the normal way to do things here.


Only people interested in pornography are interested in coming to a porn website. It doesn't matter what island it is on.
Katheryne Helendale
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03-26-2009 20:52
From: Dale Innis
Note that that isn't what the Lab are doing at all; nothing in the recent announcements said anything about making PG versus Mature more defined. This is about making a new third category, so far completely undefined, and perhaps moving all the content that fits into *that* category off of the existing mainland. But if you're concerned about the distinction between PG and Mature, none of this is about that at all; there's been no suggestion that that line would be drawn any more sharply, or that the enforcement would be made any stronger than it is now.
Correct. In fact, if anything, the line between PG and Mature is being made really blurry.
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Lylani Bellic
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03-26-2009 20:53
From: Nany Kayo
No one has to search for the brothels. The whole damned place is a brothel. You can't search for anything or go anywhere in Second Life without being swamped with porn.


Talk about a gross exaggeration. Perhaps if you weren't so hellbent on porn you'd realize that not everything you type into the search engine has to be porn related.

When I first joined this game I spent hours and hours and hours and hours (and hours) exploring and searching out neat things, seeing sims and people and amazing places; never once did I see anything sexual. Until I looked for them.

Stop using your biased search results as an argument to try and say that SL is all porn, it isn't, and anyone who spends 10 minutes searching can see that.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:53
From: Milla Janick
Nonsense.


Then why the hell do you think this policy change has even been proposed? Why would Linden Labs put itself to this kind of trouble if pornography was not a serious issue?
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 20:53
From: Nany Kayo
No one has to search for the brothels. The whole damned place is a brothel. You can't search for anything or go anywhere in Second Life without being swamped with porn.

You really clearly haven't been to many places in SL then, I own and run a sex club in SL and get up to some of the kinkiest things you pure mind can imagine, and there is heaps of places in SL that are very clean friendly places with no sex at them. Ever been to Sanctuary Rock? That's a lovely place with rock and metal music, it holds contests and other things, and it's a lovely place to hang out and have fun. No body is there having sex, no escorts or whatever. I've been gokarting around in SL at places, or been to RP sims which are PG. Try going to the SL Vore Club, they don't even allow sex there at all, banned completely.

Nobody is forcing you to look at it! There is hundreds or even thousands of other places you could be and if you don't like any of those then you can own your own land and never see it at all.
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Kittyn Fuhr
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03-26-2009 20:53
From: Nany Kayo
The sex industry is the only kind of business that will use a porn website.


and if SL is a "porn website" as you seem to imply....then why are you still here?
Da5id Weatherwax
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03-26-2009 20:55
From: Nany Kayo
No one has to search for the brothels. The whole damned place is a brothel. You can't search for anything or go anywhere in Second Life without being swamped with porn.


ok, now you're being totally ridiculous. Are you "swamped with porn" at the Dresden museum? Or at the fishing holes Blue has blogged about? Methinks the lady doth protest too much. If you are swamped with it then you are seeking it out to be offended by it and if that floats your boat you're welcome to do that but dont use it as an argument in favor of your extreme viewpoint here. It wont fly.
Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:55
From: Lylani Bellic
Talk about a gross exaggeration. Perhaps if you weren't so hellbent on porn you'd realize that not everything you type into the search engine has to be porn related.

When I first joined this game I spent hours and hours and hours and hours (and hours) exploring and searching out neat things, seeing sims and people and amazing places; never once did I see anything sexual. Until I looked for them.

Stop using your biased search results as an argument to try and say that SL is all porn, it isn't, and anyone who spends 10 minutes searching can see that.


I just put another example in this tread of a search for "furniture" without Include Mature content checked. It's one of several, You can come up with them all day long. Just about anything you search for will result in pornography.
Grady Vuckovic
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03-26-2009 20:56
Are the SL churchs brothels too? I think they might take offense to that.
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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:57
From: Da5id Weatherwax
ok, now you're being totally ridiculous. Are you "swamped with porn" at the Dresden museum? Or at the fishing holes Blue has blogged about? Methinks the lady doth protest too much. If you are swamped with it then you are seeking it out to be offended by it and if that floats your boat you're welcome to do that but dont use it as an argument in favor of your extreme viewpoint here. It wont fly.


Linden Lab's own viewpoint is considered extreme in this forum. Clearly, Linden Labs believes this place is swamped in porn, or they would not be trying to clear it out, would they?
Milla Janick
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03-26-2009 20:57
From: Nany Kayo
Then why the hell do you think this policy change has even been proposed? Why would Linden Labs put itself to this kind of trouble if pornography was not a serious issue?

Your statement was nonsense. I can explore for days and not see any porn, much less be swamped with it.

Businesses, colleges and universities are already all over SL. The idea that they're being scared off by the adult material is nonsense.
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03-26-2009 20:58
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think again they are always reading thats what moderators are for
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Nany Kayo
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03-26-2009 20:58
From: Grady Vuckovic
Are the SL churchs brothels too? I think they might take offense to that.


I guess so. From what I can tell from the viewpoints being expressed here, the only reason for anyone to use Second Life is for sex.