New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Allow me:

PROBLEM: If your home/last location is offline when you log, you might randomly end up at an adult infohub, and people might sneak in an AR before you have time to realize it and leave.

SOLUTION: Don't even worry about it, because LL says no such AR will stick.

You're welcome.

LOL. 'don't worry about it'. Well that is just peachy.
Do whatever you want - no matter how much it offends - as long as your not going to have to take responsibility for it.
Your like a miniature sociopath.

I'm not surprised you don't understand this - but most other people in SL, when presented with evidence that something they think is a problem isn't actually as bad a problem as they thought, they tend to stop worrying about it.

ETA: I do honestly apologize in advance to any who might be offended if LL randomly teleports me to the Zindra infohub and it takes me 15 seconds to realize where I am and TP away.

Or use it as a smoke screen to do as they please and remain blameless.
And you refuse to do anything to make sure that does not happen. But you gave lip service to it at least. CYA.

Yes, because there's no reason to make sure it does not happen, because it's not a problem. If it does happen, I TP away. That plan costs a lot less than the some $250-odd USD your idea would cost me.

amazing.

Ummmm .... do you even know that OP means 'original poster'? That a child av being accidentally rerouted to a zindra infohub is not a problem according to LL. Later other suggestions (including a JIRA) were proposed to improve how avatars are rerouted when a sim crashes.

That is why I posted the original post Kara

I have a question . . . and my apologies if this has already been addressed. I have read this entire thread, but after 700+ posts, my brain starts to get a little . . . squidgy.

I entirely understand Cody's reasons for adult verification. It is logical that a child av is more likely to get ARed for being underage than an adult av, and having age verification on file will presumably end any G-Team investigation into such charges immediately.

But, isn't it possible to turn off "Adult" voluntarily?

So, given that child avis are GENERALLY not going to be going into adult areas anyway (and yes, I know there will be exceptions, involving areas that do NOT contain sexual content), wouldn't it make sense for someone with a child avi to disable "adult," and thus avoid accidents from happening in the first place?

Adult could optionally be turned on again only when the child avi wanted to go to an adult area (that did not, of course, feature sexual content).

What am I missing here?

I don't think that stops you from going to those areas ..i think that only controls what you see in search if i'm not mistaken..

Yes, it can be disabled in the viewer's General Preferences tab.

However, one resident in this thread: /327/a3/341429/1.html

stated that his unverified alt was redirected to one of the Adult infohubs. So setting one's viewer options to exclude adult content may not be sufficient to prevent these involuntary redirects.

Yikes. Ok, that's a SERIOUS flaw with the system then.

If so, it's too bad. This would seem to be a neat, and voluntary, way around this problem.

Please vote for Sindy Tsure's JIRA issue:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15568

I think that would make SL better for everyone, not just this specific situation.

ya i was mistaken
just set mine to pg and tried to go to zindra and was denied

Yeah, I age verified when I suddenly found that I couldn't get to a few shops . . . notably, Bits and Bobs . . . that were now evidently "Adult." So I knew that you couldn't enter Adult areas without verification. But can you be redirected there, if a sim crashes?

PS. Voted for the JIRA. YAY!!! My second ever JIRA vote. I feel sooooooo . . . engaged! Empowered! And stuff.

So.... A 30-year-old in a child avatar sexing up a 13-year-old is evil, but the same 30-year-old in an adult avatar sexing up the 13-year-old is okay?

Explain the relevance of the avatar in this case. Not that I expect you will; but it'd be worth the laugh.

Your childhood must've really sucked. You are babbling incoherencies, grasping at straws, and tilting at windmills that would make Don Quixote wince!

Besides, who said anything about RL children coming to the main grid? Yeah, there was a lot of speculation about the reasonings behind the adult content changes; but so far there has not been any official word confirming this was happening. Quite the contrary, there's been a lot of official word denying any such plans. Sure, we all take all of that with a grain of salt; but to base your entire argument on this premise is specious at best.
You're clearly not a lawyer. Please point me to one law, anywhere in the world, that forbids adults wearing child avatars in Second Life. Hell, I'll make it easy for you: Point me to a single law that forbids adults from acting like children!We, Kimosabe? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Stop it with the weasel words - you and Lias both - and *own* what you are claiming. Some verifiable facts to back up your claims would be nice, too.
I mentioned "non-sexual". YOU'RE the one who keeps bringing pedophilia into the discussion.

Seriously: You have a very unhealthy obsession with pedophilia; and I am starting to draw some very unhealthy conclusions about you based on this.

Squicky!

You're in rare civil form today, so I'm going to ask this very seriously:

Why would a child avatar want to buy an adult skin? Have you ever worn an adult skin in a child shape? It is rather unflattering, to say the least.

I'm inclined to believe your situation was either an honest mistake (someone waiting for the store to rez before realizing there was nothing there for him/her, or someone who forgot to "grow up" before going shopping) or someone who was looking for a skin or shape so that he or she COULD "grow up". I just don't see any value in an adult skin on a child avatar, and I'm pretty certain the RL person behind the avatar has long ago grown beyond the hiding-behind-the-woodshed-with-the-Sears-catalog phase.

Your childhood must've really sucked. You are babbling incoherencies, grasping at straws, and tilting at windmills that would make Don Quixote wince!

Besides, who said anything about RL children coming to the main grid? Yeah, there was a lot of speculation about the reasonings behind the adult content changes; but so far there has not been any official word confirming this was happening. Quite the contrary, there's been a lot of official word denying any such plans. Sure, we all take all of that with a grain of salt; but to base your entire argument on this premise is specious at best.

You're clearly not a lawyer. Please point me to one law, anywhere in the world, that forbids adults wearing child avatars in Second Life. Hell, I'll make it easy for you: Point me to a single law that forbids adults from acting like children!We, Kimosabe? You got a mouse in your pocket?

Stop it with the weasel words - you and Lias both - and *own* what you are claiming. Some verifiable facts to back up your claims would be nice, too.

I mentioned "non-sexual". YOU'RE the one who keeps bringing pedophilia into the discussion.

Seriously: You have a very unhealthy obsession with pedophilia; and I am starting to draw some very unhealthy conclusions about you based on this.

Squicky!

You're in rare civil form today, so I'm going to ask this very seriously:

Why would a child avatar want to buy an adult skin? Have you ever worn an adult skin in a child shape? It is rather unflattering, to say the least.

I'm inclined to believe your situation was either an honest mistake (someone waiting for the store to rez before realizing there was nothing there for him/her, or someone who forgot to "grow up" before going shopping) or someone who was looking for a skin or shape so that he or she COULD "grow up". I just don't see any value in an adult skin on a child avatar, and I'm pretty certain the RL person behind the avatar has long ago grown beyond the hiding-behind-the-woodshed-with-the-Sears-catalog phase.

Bits&Bobs is now on adult rated land? Wow. Well, can't get much better proof for valid reasons for kid avatars going to adult rated land. I buy animations there for stuff I make, very pg stuff like chairs or loungers. And the likes like Lias and Ciera want to keep me away from there "because no child avatar has any valid reason to go to a place on adult rated land"? Lol.

And before they now come with "you could just switch to an adult avatar when going there": no, I have to see if the animations actually work for me - not for an alibi adult form that never gets used.

Coming from you, honey; this is hilarious!

What possible offence would anyone in his or her right mind take at the brief and involuntary presence of a child avatar at the Ortiz or Arapaima hubs as a result of SL logging that av in there? That's the bit I just don't understand.

This is actually a good question. Has anyone actually *tried* unchecking the adult settings and seeing if one can still TP to Arapaima that way? Or any other location in Zindra, for that matter?