New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Go back and re-read what you just posted. Does that make ANY sense to you??? Ban child avatars to make way for RL children? Dressed as WHAT, pray tell? Adults? Wouldn't that be exceedingly dangerous?

You do not want adults masquerading as small children gaining the trust of RL children. THose adults are considered internet predators.

The youngest child allowed on the teen grid is 13. MY 13 year old niece does not pretend she is 8 years old on the internet. Adults in SL do.

How about adults masquerading as friendly old ladies in shawls? Or robots? Or horses. Or robot horses? Friendly old robot horses in shawls? With a basket of apples?

Nor, though, do we particularly want RL children masquerading as adults, do we? That seems to carry with it some pretty obvious dangers, too.

That is why they cannot adult verify.

This is where your misjudgment of the situation stems from.

This roleplay is NOT perfectly legal in many of the countries around the world.

For it to be perfectly legal, there must to be a guarantee that all the players are over legal age (18 years in this case) AND that none of the role players can be depicted in sexual / adult situations.

Linden Lab cannot guarantee all players are over 18, and many of you role players are hellbent on being around adult content.

So the conditions for this to be perfectly legals is not satisfied.

In addition we know that there are RL kids masquerading as kid avatars. We also know there are adults hunting these kids. That does not exactly improve your perfectly legal picture, eh?

Ooh.. Apples. =^-^=

No, adult content will be banned and the children will be able to use child avatars. The idea that Linden Lab would merge the grids and have children using adult avatars is just nonsense.


The bottom line is you do not want adult predators stalking RL children in SL. This is why the grids must not be merged.

This is not a convincing argument to ban child avatars, it is a convincing argument not to merge the grids.

Same goes for depictions of violence... Got any guns in your inventory? (^_^)y

I believe eliminating lia(r)s who encourage others to break the TOS will eliminate the inappropriateness of the people hiding behind these avatars.

Hey!

Sorry, you've lost me. I thought you were expressing concerns that -- in the event the teen and adult grids should be merged -- predatory pedophiles would wander around masquerading as children so as to gain the trust of these teens. So ban child avs. I just wondered, though, what sort of avs the teens were supposed to use in this scenario.

there is no pretending, everyone knows that everyone is suposed to be an adult, and all child avatars clearly state this in their profile, not becouse of some rule but because they want to make it clear to frustrated people like you that they are indeed adults.
child avatars have nothing to hide.
I for exsample have in my profile my rl age, rl gender and rl country, you on the otherhand have no rl info at all, now who is masquerading? for all we know you are a 50 year old male with a gross overwieght problem

Yes

They can use that Immy teen avatar. She volunteered to donate it to the SL start screen.

I AM also going to need your social security number and street address. Thanks

don't like being called a liar? you just broke another irony meter

I asume you are going to post yours in your profile as wel

When I start masquerading as a child in Second Life I will

No, I see further segregation between adult and mature, and then eventually, Full paid subscriptions to access the now completely isolated, "new" adult grid. Perhaps even become its own stand alone world completely cut off from sl.
Then SL can market they've eliminated all adult nastiness and can open the doors to all ages safely.
Then on the opposite hand, under a shell company of SL, a newly rebranded adults only world (zindra.com or such) opens to much fanfare as a highly prem, paid access site for pron. Complete with new meshes an advances in viewers. Dont think it wouldnt work? It absolutely would work. 100% sure of it.
And in this new adult-only land there would be 0 - repeat Z E R O reasons or excuses to have child avatars other than filling the needs of the obvious bad stuff.
Actually SL could be very succesful set up like this. One grid like Disneyland and the other a hardcore redlight. It would be up to merchants to market in each grid. They would be ceritified of course to sell.
Residents in the Main sl would have a more limited avatar appearence mode. Of course with anything this drastic it would take a lot of tinkering. But it could work quite well. And I think thats where its going.
anyways just checking in.

flame away. Im fireproof.

Sadly, that's one expectation that you did just meet. Once again, you got called to the carpet to back up your absurd claims, and once again, you refuse.

FAIL!

I agree. The firewall is almost complete anyway. A new web portal directly into the adult grid would be a plus for the content providers there - instead of being a dirty little secret as they are now.
I am still with you. Go on....
I am liking it - and it sounds like the near future of SL.

There is NO PLACE for child avatars in Second Life. And soon the writing will be on the wall for those in denial.

Stop your whining and temper tantrums and pay attention.

Hopefully Linden Lab isn't so shortsighted as to pigeonhole residents that way.

No flaming, but that's an idea I'd hate. I love the variety of experiences in Second Life. It would be horrible to completely separate them like that.

Second Life is in a special position. The main grid provides an incredibly rich experience for adults. Art, music, porn, everything. It's really a unique, wonderful virtual world.

The Teen Grid offers a relatively secure virtual world for children where parents can be reasonably confident their kids will not be stalked by online predators. Rather than trying to merge the grids and destroy that trust, Linden Lab should promote it.

Merging the grids, and sequestering Adult content would destroy everything that makes Second Life what it is.

Hi Jig

Same difference. It'll have to start over with new content, because Linden Lab doesn't have the rights to transfer the content in SL currently into another service. If you're going to move to a new grid with new stuff anyway, why not set up your own red light OpenSim district and get out from under the lab?