New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

This is all very true Ceka. Thank you for your post.

Remember when we were kids... we couldn't wait to be grownups.

Yeah, I get all that.. but what I mean is that I don't understand why people are so upset about Child Avatars fetching up at Arapaima or Ortiz, since there's no Adult Content for miles around, or why anyone should be upset about fetching up there even though they don't often frequent Adult lands. I mean, it's not as if people are going to find themselves dumped in dens of sin and iniquity, or have their orgies disrupted by dozens of unexpected visitors courtesy of Linden Labs.

I think your jira proposal is a very sensible one, and I've voted for it -- I'd certainly rather be able to opt to arrive a friend's island or something rather than a hub -- but what I don't understand is why people in this thread are getting so vexed about people turning up at Adult hubs.

He got it from his dad. "Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name..."

I think the only proof of a problem or how LL feels about things is that they have segregated all sex related stuff to zindra and gone so far as to even make the search for such things subject to several qualifying events. I dont see any proof, have not been shown any, and have not seen any myself of ANY actions by LL against child avatars in the current environment. I DO see them putting all the icky sex stuff behind a big black curtain called zindra so that it is hard to find and harder to get to.

I think there are FAR worse things going on in SL than this supposed pedophile rampage. as ive said before...ive worked with pedophiles, been trained to determine who is or not one through interviews etc and they are NOT by and large focused on adult web sites with ADULTS behind the avatars. I do feel that things like rape, mutilation, slavery, bondage, dolcett and many other things depicted in sl - now in zindra - ARE quite harmful to adults. But i also feel that adults get to make choices of where they are and what they do.

going after child avatars is simply wrong....if you want to go after pedophiles, then do it. but be sure to include any possible pedophiles that are furry, human, robot, dragon, elves, monsters and the many other things they could be in sl as well.

all of this makes me want to go get a child avatar and wear it in zindra...maybe we could have a huge parade or something...lol

What? What? Oh, I'll have vanilla.

Quite the opposite really Danny, LL's has repeatedly defended the right of child avatars to exist and will continue to do so.

Thankfully.

SL would be a darker and more sad place without them.

Handy

A kid toon showing up in an area that doesn't allow sexual content ANYWAY is not a problem. There's no problem, so there's no solution needed.

It's like, the idea of eating sushi off someone without them showering first is kinda icky, but I won't ask you to add a scripted shower to your naked tableware restaurant. Because it's not an actual problem that needs a solution.

What kids are doing that?

There are no adult infohubs. Not even the ones in the adult sims.

And that right there says more than any single post in this entire cycle of madness.

/me shakes his head sadly and walks away.

Handy

"The lurkers support me in email!"

/me pulls off his shorts and waves... a pawful of fur?

Ow, that smarts.

No one wants a 30 year old adult male pretending to be a 8 year old girl talking to 13 year old girls in Second Life. That adult is considered a internet predator.

QFT

If every 30 year old person playing a kid toon is a predator then every land owner in Zindra is also a predator.

It's just not true.

Voted! Blimey, 39 pages on a such a non-issue. Nobody should be blamed for how they turn up at any infohub or welcome area, regardless of the region rating and regardless of whether they are wearing a child avatar or whether they are stark naked except for the chains, the ball gag and the talking butt plug. It's something we have no control over at times, so I can't see an AR on these grounds standing up.

These places are all supposed to be PG, however, no matter what the region rating is. The child avatar is theoretically fine hanging around at the infohub whereas the naked avatar really should either get dressed, leave, or be prepared to face an AR. LL have spoken on this quite clearly.

The reason why these regions are all supposed to be pg is probably precisely that we can't predict where we will end up, so they try to make them all safe. It's obviously not working, so please vote for the jira

The problem of adult content being within draw distance of zindra tp hubs is not new, it's the same problem as mature and pg regions being next to each other (and now on estates mature, adult and pg).


didn't you used to be "preggo"? What happened, was the birth traumatic?

Eli you are getting confused. I responded to a post about the assumption that real 13 year old children will be on the grid when LL merges the youth and adult grids. If you pretend to be a small girl child and befriend a real 13 year old child on the grid - then you are a internet predator. Understand?

Nope.
Sorry.

Lias says its true so it is.

Handy

There is no situation where a 30 year old sexing up a 13 year old is appropriate. The avatars they're using are irrelevant.

13 year olds have no business on the main grid.

What on earth leads you to believe that?

Of course you can have sex beds, whether Sex Gen or any other brand, on Mature sims, so long as they're for private use. Blondin reiterated this as recently as last MondayThat's been the case since way back when; see http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mature_or_Adult%3F

What do you say has changed?

The avatar they use is relevant Millia

Milla we are talking about the time when the youth grid merges with the adult grid.

I was not sure if it had changed or not. LL waffled on that for a while. Can these sex beds be in PG areas?

Sex beds have never been allowed in PG areas.

I'm not the one refusing to read anything here. Your ONE confirmed case of online pedophilia was a fluke, for starters, because it happened in an adults-only environment. The RL child had no business being here. Secondly, it could have happened *anywhere*. SL just happened to be the vehicle of choice at the moment. But, you do bring up a good point: Online pedophilia is a significant problem on the Internet. So, using Lias Logic here, in order to eliminate *any* possibility of it ever happening online, we need to ban the Internet. Period.Pot? This is Kettle. You're black.
And, yet, in all of this incoherent ranting, you did not refute my claim that you are blaming the *child* for being propositioned.

you know damn well child avatar users do not want to interact with rl kids, in the treads about rl kids on the grids it is the child avatar users that show to be the first ones to ar them.

if the teengrid was to be merged you would see the rl kids in the combat sims and the sl kids in the schools and familie houses. rl kids do not want to play a kid in sl too and go to school and have a mother telling them what to do, they have that in rl and most likely want to escape that.

the two groups will naturaly stay away from eachother solving your imaginairy problem before it even arises.

a bigger problem would be adults pretending to be kids playing adult avatars, hmm, guess we have to ban adult avatars afterall

Don't be silly. They aspire to be kids - of course they want to be around real kids also.
Looks good on paper.
Nonsense
head spinning.