New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

How? It would be appropriate if the adult was using an adult avatar? Hell no. The only relevant points in that example are 30 year old and 13 year old.


I don't know about anyone else, but I'm going to fight like hell against that. If you really care about online exploitation of children, you will too. If it ever happens, I don't care what avatars people are using, I won't be here.

It's not? So, what exactly was your point in bringing up a thread regarding RL children in SL in your argument here? Running out of ammo, are we?

should have known you would call me a liar, afterall you think I am an online predator and my word can't be trusted.
you on the other hand are the foremost expert on child avatars in your mind.

you should concider seeking some profecional help for your obsesive paranoia, it is starting to get real unhealthy and might land you in real legal trouble if you keep this up (slander ring a bell?)

Hmm sounds like it's about RL children.



Hmmm sounds like it's about RL children.



Oh and we have a hat-trick of Lias talking about RL children in a thread not about RL children. Amazing.

If that happens they'll have to shut down the adult-rated sims long before they even think about kid toons.

Ciaran someone posted about the time RL children are going to be on the grid as part of LL's plan - that was a discussion concerning that. It does not seem like it will be a good fit to have men pretending to little girls and then befriending 13 year old girls in Second Life. To me that would be a bad fit. I can definitely see LL banning the child avatar when that occurs. I believe the ban should start now. There is no reason to continue putting up with these adults in child avatars 'mistakenly' heading over to Adult areas and getting into sexual situations.

That would be an incorrect assumption. I'd really rather not associate with RL kids on this grid, thanks. i would suspect you'll find the same true of the majority of child avatars.



Oh, then never mind then. It must have been someone else who posted the above.

That, of course, is not believable.

Of course, because what would I know about child avatars or their interests and motivations, anyway?

I also would not like to associate with real children on the grid. Real life children would mean I would have to act like a responsible adult. When I am in child avatar form it is about the freedom of being child like. Real children around would ruin the game.

Actually, the way I see it, a teen-grid merge would be done in order to address RL family bonding and educational interests in SL. In such cases, it may wind up being pragmatic that the teen take on a kid avatar in order to maintain the parent/child dynamic for an online/offline family. (^_^)

So... Banning kid AVs as a result of a potential teen-grid merge? Not likely. (^_^)y

Yes, the TEEN perhaps - not the 30 year old man.
The man pretending to be a little girl befriending a young teen would be a issue that had to be dealt with. So teens not being able to pretend they are 8 years old would be a sacrifice most parents would make.

Perhaps LL will use your 'barely legal' avatar for the new teen avatar when the kids come.

So... A 30 year old man in a 30 year old man avatar is harmless by default? Good. I'll give a wave to the guys at the nude beach. (^_^)

... Or the horse ranch, for that matter. (^_^)y

What exactly would you hope to accomplish with this? It is already a ban-worthy offense to involve child avatars in sexual contexts. Therefore, anyone who is presently engaging in such acts is already doing it against the CS, and would not give a rat's ass how many more bans you place on it. So, all you would really accomplish is ruining a perfectly legitimate form of roleplay for 99.9% of child avatars who roleplay responsibly, and not affecting online pedophilia one freaking iota!

No silly, I was saying no one wants a man in a 8 year old child avatar befriending 13 year old girls in Second Life. That 30 year old man would be considered a internet predator

Copybot issues aside... There are already 18 year olds on the grid. Such redundancy is possible now. (^_^)y

Ah, okay. So, 8 year olds and 13 year olds can't be friends and 30 year olds are predators. (^_^)

Will I be needing a calculator to sort out the rest? =^-^=

Lias kids merging won't be a good fit full stop and is more likely to attract the predator types than SL does now, far far more likely because then it won't be an 18+ place, which generally aren't the places predators look because the're after kids. When the kids come, adult content is going to be far more restricted than it is now too.

Nope. No sex beds in PG areas. Sex beds are ok in Mature areas so long as they are in private homes. They are also OK in shops in Mature areas, so long as you don't use banned terms to advertise them and so long as people keep their clothes on while testing them. On Adult sims, you can advertise them how you like and set them up for public use in your public dungeon or orgy room.

Let me spell it out for you one more time:

THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY *NO* MINORS ALLOWED ON THE MAIN GRID. *NO* *EXCEPTIONS*!

Let me repeat it for you, just so we can be sure the point sticks:

THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY *NO* MINORS ALLOWED ON THE MAIN GRID. *NO* *EXCEPTIONS*!

Any real children present on the grid are present in complete violation of the Terms of Service. There is a FAR GREATER risk of a real child getting hurt walking home from school and encountering a stranger than there is of one getting hurt in SL. Children could get hurt at real-life bars, nightclubs, and other adult venues. Since that possibility exists, perhaps we should outlaw all such establishments. Might as well ban MySpace, too, since a large number of children are stalked there all the time.

Child Avatars != Real-Life Children. You seem to think that eliminating child avatars will eliminate RL children from the grid. How? How do you know that the adult avatar standing next to you isn't a RL child? The exact same way you can tell that a child avatar is a RL child. In other words, YOU CAN'T TELL. Banning child avatars from the grid will NOT eliminate RL children from the grid. It will just make them even harder to find.

Let me repeat: BANNING CHILD AVATARS FROM THE GRID WILL *NOT* ELIMINATE RL CHILDREN FROM THE GRID. IT WILL JUST MAKE THEM EVEN HARDER TO FIND!

Your desire to protect RL children from harm by removing them from the grid is noble. However, you can already do this with the rules that are already in place. If you see an underage user (User. Not avatar. User.) on the grid, then AR the incident. Simple. You want RL children off the grid? Then AR them.

THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY *NO* MINORS ALLOWED ON THE MAIN GRID. *NO* *EXCEPTIONS*!

I Agree the restrictions will increase. And I see the child avatar being banned to make way for the real kids.

First the porn will have to go.

And it got handled, did it not? Otherwise, how did YOU hear about it?

I believe eliminating child avatars will eliminate the inappropriateness of the people hiding behind these avatars. When the RL children are allowed here that would be a different issue that would also effect the use of child avatars.
Exactly. The person behind that avatar is probably a full grown predator. THe teen would not be aware enough to know the difference.

He witnessed it Kat