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Whimsycallie Pegler
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09-23-2009 16:44
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Ian Nider
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09-23-2009 16:56
From: Smith Peel
That is a million billion times sicker than anything you can imagine involving adults roleplaying children. But I support the right for anyone to do this kinda crap in a virtual world as long as it is not shoved in my face.


Yeh same here, Lias can have her bdsm sushi restaurant, although if I was a vigilante I'd be screaming thread after thread "what about the fish".
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09-23-2009 17:00
From: Ian Nider
Yeh same here, Lias can have her bdsm sushi restaurant, although if I was a vigilante I'd be screaming thread after thread "what about the fish".


LOLz ... and as Argent mentioned... what about the showers???
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09-23-2009 17:03
From: Lias Leandros
Immy has joined Jojo in the non-issue suite. Enjoy your stay.


Hey Immy and Jojo! How did you two score a suite? Lias only said I took a nap.
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09-23-2009 17:05
waving to kara...come on in! we are into the mini bar! giggling.
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Ciera Spyker
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09-23-2009 17:12
From: Innula Zenovka
I'm trying think of the number of times I've run into child avatars in the last couple of years in circumstances that would give anyone cause for concern -- and I spend most of my time in Adult areas (or what have become adult areas since Adult verification).

I once ran into one outside a well-known adult products shop, where several people were remonstrating with her and telling her to go. I IM-d the owner, who's a friend of mine, and the avatar wasn't there much longer.

There were a couple of child avatars looking round my store on Zindra while we were getting it ready. I explained, politely, that they were welcome to look round but I really didn't want child avatars there once we had the products out; they were perfectly OK about it and I haven't seen any child avatars there since.

Once I ran into a rather creepy child vampire, but it was her who gave me cause for concern rather than the place. And that's about it, really.



I went shopping today for specialty skins. In only two stores i ran across 3 kiddie avs. The last one, standing about as high as my kneecap (im only 6-4 sl) stood directly in front of a wall of naked skin displays. She turned around and saw me after a few minutes and poofed. She knew she was in the wrong technically, maybe not. No, I didnt AR her, but i was tempted, i felt Live and let live today.

But it confuses me - if the adult knows they are going to go shop for adult skins why go as a 5 year old? I downsize myself before i go certain places to avoid hassles or hate comments, so slipping into a adult shape for 10 minutes isnt going to kill them either. I know it shouldnt be that way. but with the way the US law in cali works its a must follow to stay in business.
sigh...... and dont even start me on the 2257 laws here on cam girls or live picture escorts. (hint- no, being SL age verified is NOT good enough for 2257.)

(frankly i really dont care what the kiddies do. as long as they stay the frak away from anything adult i'm associated, own, sponsor, manage or contributed too. Because the last thing i am doing is going to jail for some little snot nosed ideas of fun. You and I both know theres some real butthead teens in SL.)

I must say though, I think im well known to the little brats, I've been called a big meany more than once by these small fry, and I rather like it.
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09-23-2009 17:14
From: Smith Peel
LOLz ... and as Argent mentioned... what about the showers???


PETA time. Lias's dead fish need showers NOW!
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09-23-2009 17:17
ciera is it possible that the kid av was looking for kid skins? until things rez it is often difficult to tell what is in front of you.
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09-23-2009 17:18
From: Jojogirl Bailey
ciera is it possible that the kid av was looking for kid skins? until things rez it is often difficult to tell what is in front of you.



Puhleeze......
the store was a grown up store... not some kidde factory. Bad attempt, try again.
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09-23-2009 17:20
sincere question...thanks for the sincere reply....since you didnt speak with the child and i have no clue what the store was....i thought it was a possibilty.
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09-23-2009 17:20
From: Ian Nider
Yeh same here, Lias can have her bdsm sushi restaurant, although if I was a vigilante I'd be screaming thread after thread "what about the fish".
LOL I had a partner that would enter the restaurant every day, see the nude girls and say "I smell Fish". The staff hated that guy, lol.
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Ciera Spyker
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09-23-2009 17:25
From: Jojogirl Bailey
sincere question...thanks for the sincere reply....since you didnt speak with the child and i have no clue what the store was....i thought it was a possibilty.



Ok , I will apologise for being a bit flip.

If you knew the store, You would go "Umm, yeah ok no kid stuff there." Im not going to name it. I dont think I can name it becasue of filters here. - not sure- dont care.

point was if your going somewhere that might raise a eyebrow. Think first. (its a pity its come to that, But i blame the outside sl real world legal system dogooders and right wingers on that. Mmmhmmm. yes i do..)
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09-23-2009 17:37
From: Katheryne Helendale
What concessions did you make, exactly? You moved to an adult-zoned sim because you were told to. There were no concessions. You either do what you were told, or you must pack up and leave. No concessions.
Everything we did was a concession. I guess what you are saying is that No one in SL is going to voluntarily give up anything for any reason. And that is why I say the ban hammer needs to come down on the child avatar to nip the on going issue in the bud now because any negotiations will fail miserably.
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09-23-2009 17:42
From: Jojogirl Bailey
LOL - you see this is the sort of things that you need to sink to in an desperate attempt to stop the conversation. The child avatar/pedophilia scare was tried a few months ago Lias. But give it your best shot.
700 posts on child avatar/pedophilia. 3 posts on dolcett. My best shot is much better than yours.
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09-23-2009 17:59
ahhh but im not trying to ban anything...just pointing out the hypocrisy. :)
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09-23-2009 18:01
And that you are good at.
And when someone educates you about the difference between Nyotaimori and Dolcett - you may actually make sense.
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09-23-2009 18:02
good luck lias...i hope someday you get what is really going on here....take care ;)

psst...i already know the difference...too bad you dont know the difference between real pedophilia and virtual avatars controlled by adults. :)

see there is this thing called metaphor.....oh nevermind lol
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09-23-2009 18:03
From: Jojogirl Bailey
waving to kara...come on in! we are into the mini bar! giggling.

/me checks out the HBO
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09-23-2009 18:05
LOL :D

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09-23-2009 18:05
From: Lias Leandros
Everything we did was a concession.
Nonsense. We got some concessions from the Lindens, but none of us gave up an inch of ground except that Linden Lab demanded it. Giving up gracefully what you're going to lose anyway is admirable, but it's not a bleeding concession.
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09-23-2009 18:13
Well if you all are begging LL to lock the convo we shall twitter update now: OP ended up in Zindra after Sim Crash, I suggested that a child avatar should not adult verify, child avatar apologists disagree. I then suggest banning the child avatar to stop the nonsense (see over 700 posts here on child avatars - and the others that occur once a month). The same crew says there is no pedophilia in SL, child avatars are being witch hunted and the people that do not appreciate their presence are kooks.

This will not end well.
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09-23-2009 18:13
From: Dakota Tebaldi
So yeah, this thread really isn't all that controversial.

Yeah, thank god for that, eh?

:D
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09-23-2009 18:15
lol
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09-23-2009 18:19
Summary for anyone who just tunes in ...

OP: "here is a potential problem and the solution, FYI"
Lias: "I have a tangental idea, why not xyz?"
most of us: "xyz is not an option because of abc, do you have a better idea?"
Lias: "just ban the lot of you since you are unwilling to solve my problem for me!"
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O predictable experience,
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We love you null expression.'
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09-23-2009 18:21
From: Kara Spengler
Summary for anyone who just tunes in ...

OP: "here is a potential problem and the solution, FYI"
Lias: "I have a tangental idea, why not xyz?"
most of us: "xyz is not an option because of abc, do you have a better idea?"
Lias: "just ban the lot of you since you are unwilling to solve my problem for me!"

Please point out the solution suggested here
From: Dakota Tebaldi
just a heads-up to the unwary. It has happened at least twice so far that kid avs have ended up in Zindra accidentally, when the region they typically log in at is offline for whatever reason and they were rerouted to the infohub there. Now, I know this might give some people ideas; but fortunately according to LL, we can't be AR'd for this when it happens, even if we end up in "proximity" to the adult stuff. That also goes for unwittingly accepting random TPs to adult establishments, it seems, which someone seems to have tried on a couple of kid avs for who-knows-why.

So yeah, this thread really isn't all that controversial. I just called it that to get you to read it. :)

Carry on.
I'll wait.
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