New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

just woke up *stretches and yawns*
a few pages back I proofed that Lias was masquerading more then me because she has no rl info at all in her profile while I have age gender and country, offcourse that was not enough for her, she wanted my social securety number and streetadress and plainly refused to offer her info herself because accourding to her she is not masquerading.

does anyone realise what she was attempting? she wants me to give up information that not only puts me in real life danger but my family as wel not just because of me playing a child avatar in SL but because of my RL job too.

Lias is crossing the line into illigal real life actions here, guess I'll have to report her to the dutch inteligents servicc before she realy does put someone in mortal danger

I have 2 simple questions to you Katheryne:

* Do you acknowledge there are underage residents in SecondLife?

* Do you acknowledge some of these masquerade as child avatars?

If you were not masquerading as a small child on the internet and behaving like a predator you would not need to add your information to your profile to make people feel more comfortable with you.

I am sure you will not get much sympathy from these 'Dutch Authorities' once they see what you are pretending to be a small child on the net. And please make sure your employers know also.

yay more slander.
1) you are not masquerading if you have info showing your real age.
2) accusing me of being a predator is a serius accusation you better be willing to back up.
when did I ever try to seek out a rl child in sl for anything what so ever?

back up your wild claims right now lias, you are in trouble here far more then you realise.

A screen shot of your avatar backs that up.

There is nothing wrong with using a non child avatar to go to Adult areas Daniel. You just feel your wants supersede and pretense of common decency. A running theme in the child avatar community.
Bits and Bobs animations are developed for adults but are adjustable once you purchase them. If the creator wanted to cater to child avatars he would have made animations for that sub-set (and just remove all of his sex animations from his store and stay mature - obviously his Adult product sales convinced him to go adult to keep his income up). I really do not know of any animation that fits every avatar before making adjustments to it. I use full perm Bits and Bobs animations for my creations also - and I adjust them before setting them in furniture.

So you can adjust animations (not poseballs, but the actual animations), if they have arms going through the body, or legs into each other, because they were made with a differently sized avatar model? Show me that, please.

Yes, Bits and Bobs animations are modifiable. I pull them from the pose balls and drop them in my furniture. They are for developers.

all that will show is that I play a kitten about 1 meter 30 tall.
you are making wild connections that have no base in any facts and when those connection are iligal acts it is called slander lias, look it up.

That's not what I meant, I knew that because I do that myself. I mean the actual animation. Like a sitting pose, that can work great for one avatar size, but can have legs going through each other for another avatar size. To change that, you would have to go directly into the animation "code" to change positions of legs for example - and that, to my knowledge, is not possible.

/me laughs so hard the tornado warnings go off.

you realy did not read the question or you are as dumb as a burned out light bulb

You look it up. You cannot slander a imaginary person. Or is Abigail Merlin your actual name, genius.

Abi, you should not post as soon as you wake up. get some coffee and come back a bit more civil.

it is connected to my actual personal data, that is enough smartypants

But you can change the height and position of each avatar in the pose set. That is usually the only solution available to us - unless we get custom animations made. Usually Bits and Bobs does not have animations that are that low standard - and trying them out as a child avatar will not fix help you avoid a bad animation that pushes the users through one another. Either it works or it doesn't.

Doh, you really don't get it. I'm talking for example about a single sitting animation, not a couple pose. One FOR ONE AVATAR to sit on a chair for heavens sake!



EXACTLY! And to see if that one works for *me*, it is *me* who has to go there and find out - not an alibi adult avatar!

Daniel if you are making the chair then you make sure you make so the legs do not go through the furniture.
It has to work for the FURNITURE, not you. Unless your wearing your chair to the store your point is moot.

Which is exactly why it is reasonable for child avatars to try out animations while wearing those avatars. The body is proportioned differently and until you try the animation you don't know whether it will work or not. I have a similar problem as I have womanly hips. It's amazing how many animations position my hands through my body. It's not a question of poor quality, just animations that work better with different shapes.

Oh Lord, throw down some brain!

I mean MY left leg going through MY right leg - not any chair legs! HOW HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT?!?

I'm talking about doing a double click on an animation in the inventory, click on "play in world" and see how it looks for a 5'5 avatar or for a 6'5 avatar! AND THIS CAN NOT BE CHANGED, YOU HAVE TO TRY IT OUT WITH YOUR OWN AVATAR TO SEE IF IT LOOKS OKAY OR NOT!

Spinster there are animation designers that have not placed their stores in Adult areas. If someone insists upon using a child avatar and RPing as a child - they should stay in areas that a child would go. Going to a animation store that sells sex animations that people try out on the showroom floor is an inappropriate place for a child avatar to be. And there is no viable excuse for it.

In the sixteen months I've been on the grid, I have never once knowingly encountered an underage resident. So, it is a bit hard to acknowledge something I haven't seen. Do they exist on the grid? Yeah, probably. If I encounter one, I'll AR it and move on. It's not worth getting my panties in a bunch.

With that said, I can say with a fair degree of confidence that, out of all of the child avatars I have ever met, none of them were RL children. There are a few *adult* avatars, on the other hand, for whom I have my suspicions.

What there is no viable excuse for is your continuous nastiness towards child avatars. I am not going to get into this debate with you as I have learnt from previous threads that your tactic is to keep posting until everybody else gives up or the thread is locked, even if what you post is complete idiocy.

I was just trying to help Daniel explain why your argument about animations was wrong. You must have finally got it as you have changed the subject again.

You don't like child avatars and want them gone from the grid. We get it. LL has clearly stated their policy on child avatars and where they are and are not allowed to be, so deal with it. All you are doing here is making some of us seriously wonder about your sanity.

Meanwhile, this jira seems like a good idea all round ...

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15568

MORE LIES

You mean like cooking people alive and eating food off naked women?

I still don't see why it's a problem. Kid toons are not allowed in proximity to sexually oriented material, but sexually oriented material is not allowed in infohubs, even in Zindra, so where's the problem?

They're talking about SINGLE ANIMATIONS, and you know that. You can't fix the animations, you *HAVE TO* test them before buying them. There is no alternative. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch.