New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Well I am rational as well, but the chances of a child avatar ending up in the wrong place are much much bigger then that wall breaking down. That is why I would strongly advice child avatars NOT to enter Zindra. It simply could harm both their cause, as SL as a whole.


Probably most residents are worried more about these people then about child avatars The good thing about it, is that both Lias as Ciera are experts in undermining their own credibility

Yes I know that. At least the real (serious) child avatars like yourself and Marianne for example.

Probably ageplay is still going on, but seriously that has nothing to do with child avatars. And it sure is not happening all the time, at least not at the places I frequent. maybe Lias goes to quite weird places As I said in my last posting, she is an expert in undermining her own credibility though.

But in all honesty though: the picture that Immy posted was not that smart. Nice, provoking, but not smart

It is not possible if you do not adult verify - but you insist upon doing so.
The same way you can AR any bot - no matter what they are doing. That is what a ban does - sends a definitive message that the activities are no longer permitted. According to you a child avatar can go everywhere and it is not broadly offensive as long as that child avatar does not engage in sex. And that is just not true.

are you reffering to the word anime as animation?
you do know they would have used the word animation there if they were speaking about animations?"Depictions" would cover animation not anime

Anime is not a pose ball animation..it is a style developed in japan as colorful art which sometimes is themed adult with cartoon charactors that can look like Children..

I understand where you're coming from. Thing is, we don't speak about Zindra only. There is a raising number of adult rated regions amongst the private estates, too (the Bits&Bobs mainstore for example is not on Zindra, either). They already outnumber the Zindra regions by 3.5 to 1, with lots of private estate regions being switched to adult each week - many of them without a real need according to the current adult content policy. It looks like soon a big percentage of SL will be on adult flagged regions, no matter of the actual content. Because the region owners want to be totally on the safe side of LL's unpredictable rule changes and definitions. Because they want to lower the risk of griefing by keeping non-verfied and therefore anonymous avatars out.

Interesting that them carrying movies like that is so common then. They are usually in places like a curtained room in the back corner of the shoppe though. I have even seen seperate adult sections in bookstores. At the very least, the covers of adult magazines in the rack are hidden so you only see the titles.

/me holds up an index card with a "1" on it...

/me holds up an index card with an "8" on it...

/me slides finger across the cards to indicate that the number is "18"...

/me points at pointy neko ears and blinks happily...

(^_^)y

Blockbuster in Connecticut and New York do not have porn in them Kara.

Lias what a stupid remark this is!
If you even remotely understand the process of Adult Verification, you would know that everyone who has PIOF, is automatically verified.
Plus, if for example Cody wants to use an adult avatar to go to Zindra, he should adult verify anyway. You do not verify an avatar bot an account.
Think before you post.


Not true to your shallow mind. Apparently LL thinks different. Luckily not all adults combine children so easy with broadly offensive situations. Go figure

Yeah, whatever. A thread about child avatars and you post that picture and then claim it is not a child avatar. That is not a picture of your current avatar Immy. Your current avatar is that little picture to the left when you post.

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Puzzle Pirates. Free Realms. Google Lively. Gaia Online. Disney Toontown.

Right, the Lindens even said just that.

In fact, I think the quote from Blondin was that "Zindra will not be wall-to-wall porn" and they expected some PG/Mature stuff would eventually be there when land started to bne auctioned there.

Fixed that for ya!

True, and that will make it harder to visit some places when you wear a child avatar.
Don't get me wrong, if you are sure that a private region is child av safe, but rated adult just to be sure, I do not see too much of a problem, even though content can change within a day. But in general, bringing a child av into adult regions is asking for trouble.

One thing I wonder though. People role-playing as child avatars in general, would probably prefer PG regions themselves, wouldn't they? I mean, let's say you and me are friends, and I live in an adult region. Wouldn't you prefer me to visit you instead of the other way around? Bottom line: why would any person role-playing a child, feel the need to go to adult sims anyway? I would say the risk of bumping into adult stuff, would never be worth it.

You are missing one key point. LL has NEVER negotiated with child avatars. In fact, we have shown we are all too ready to accept their rules about us (even usually going beyond the stated rules).


Again you miss a key point that was told to you. Immy's picture WAS NOT OF A CHILD AVATAR!!!!!!!!!!

Umm, that exists all over the world.

Yes, even in the US.

This is a specific situation being discussed here. There is no possibility that someone at Bits and Bobs might interpret a kid toon simply in the store as being involved in a sexual situation, or depicting child pornography.

And Bits and Bobs has been the first place *I* go looking for animations for pretty much as long as I've been in SL. The first animation I bought there was a guy playing a piano. The whole idea that a kid toon might have any reason to avoid the place is ludicrous.

/me holds up a card that says "18 is adult"...





/me jiggles her boobs and waves... =^-^=

I was -age verified- before adult land existed. I can't un-verify. And I'm not going to pay $250 dollars to avoid a problem that doesn't really exist.



Yes, it is true. You have yet to demonstrate that a child av's accidentally being rerouted to Zindra's (PG) infohub would "offend" anyone accept you. To be frank, your calling me and my friends pedophiles for having kid avs is incredibly offensive, to the point of libel, but do you see me reporting you or lambasting you all over the forum for it? It's possible Mari is quite offended about your implying that she's male in RL - although it's also possible she may just be amused at that, I dunno - but she's not calling you names or implying you're a criminal. And no, it's not just because your credibility is so low that nothing you say would harm our reputations (although that's certainly true).

Right. That is why there was the SL5B child avatar debacle.
It most certainly is. And it is quite telling that you child avatar apologist not only had no problem with a picture of a small child with a BDSM Ball gag in her mouth - but that also upon it being pointed out to you - you claim the picture is of a tall doll or a 18 year old avatar.

You all insist upon remaining blameless and unaccountable. And that is just not the reality of what the child avatar represents in SL.

Doesn't matter what the rating is, it's the content of the IMMEDIATE AREA around the avatar that matters. Not what the player might cam in to see, but rather what someone looking at the avatar sees.

A prop piano, some prop furniture, some colored balls. No depiction of pornography. No possibility of such depiction. The only way to make this out to be something "bad" is through self-deception.

I will see you those 2 and raise you all the other states I have seen ... and every one I saw a video store in did.

How about I start with Virginia? Aside from the Obama election that seemed pretty conservative even for the US.

Way back when, LL said they would invite discussion on this and they would take on board resident feedback. But they never changed their definition of Adult Content from what was initially presented in writing. In all of the subsequent chatter from individual Lindens and residents alike, the written definition of Adult Content has never changed. Adult Content as far as SL goes, is content of an Extreme Sexual or Violent nature. And it is also stated in writing by LL that Adult Content must only be on Adult-rated land.

Which part of the above do you have difficulty with? Its all fairly simple and straightforward to me. As I mentioned previously, when playing a child avatar it is your choice where you go and what you do. Something else that is also a no-brainer.

If it is that you're just struggling with dealing with people who disapprove of your life choices then probably best to get over yourself. You are an adult yes? What about the 100% rights you claim for yourself? /me shrugs. Your rights stop where mine start. Same with your choices. When they conflict with mine then one of us is not going to get a lolly.

Real-world adults yes? The big fat meanies. They can be really horrible sometimes to poor wee kiddy avatars played by other real-world adults.

/me points, squeezes her cleavage together, leans forward, and nods.... =^-^=

Heard you the 5th time Dakota - that does not make it acceptable.
This entire 'Kids in Zindra outrage' thing started way before I said anything.
Dakota if you want to take me to court and you show up as a full grown adult - and then display a picture of the little boy you pretend to be on the internet to the court - I encourage you to do so.
I did?
She has called me some names. No big deal
Why anyone masquerading as a child on the internet feels they have a stellar reputation is odd to me.