New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Sure Daniel. Develop the vote medium and get it started.

Because none of you will admit you see a small child with a ball gag in her mouth only goes to prove you are no longer individually thinking adults when it comes to what is acceptable from a child avatar. You have all turned it around now - and whatever a child avatar does is the right thing for them to be doing as long as it does not involve sex - ONLY because Linden Lab banned sex with child avatars.

Lias, why don't you go do something about all those underage avatars in Gaia Online or Maple Story?

The server logs.
The client logs.

In combination with other evidence.

I vote we end this once and for all.

Ban all human avs. There. Problem fixed.

And if they are using a 3rd party communication medium or even voice? Lias likes to use voice since it leaves no evidence to her verbal griefing,

Got my jerboa avatar ready!

/me ARs that rodent for looking up the woman's dress.

Oh, I was soooooo waiting for someone to say something like that.

Well, voice is not in the picture (!) when we talk about images, unless you sit there emulating a 300 baud acoustic modem

Camming is legal, even for rodents!

Well, I do know the store, and it would take some pretty determined camera work and then some equally determined image-doctoring in Gimp or Photoshop to produce such an image.
"Many jurisdictions"? Name three.

Arguably -- very arguably -- the UK, but I am by no means convinced that our existing law would catch any image produced in SL. And, even if it did, the child-like avatar would actually have to be doing something indecent.
Which is a very sensible reminder to readers that they should familiarize themselves with the laws of their own country and abide by them. But the laws in Japan relating to graphics, drawings or anime are of no more than academic interest to a resident of Brazil, and vice versa, are they?

That avatar is 18. (^_^)y

Immy it is inappropriate - and crude to include it n a thread about child avatars. But you cannot begin to comprehend that.

Although it would be ammusing if suddenly every resident were subject to the laws of *any* country that had citizens in SL. Could you just imagine the chaos as soon as a country that followed a strict sharia set of laws got into the mix?

Dakota, it's really more amusement than anything else. Many, including on this forum, have met me IRL. Hence, it makes all that kinda silly. As to calling her names or implying anything criminal about Lias? Naw, better things to do with my time. It's build season!

Where on my pc (either Linux or Windows) do you say I should look for "client logs" that show what I've seen, as an image rather than the fragmented component textures (other than the logout picture, that is)?

I'm open to correction here, but I don't think SL images work quite the same as do images on static websites; that is, they don't get downloaded to a browser cache anywhere.

A bit different in intention, to 'barely legal porn,' wouldn't you say?

For the individual resident it is primarily the legislation in own country that is of the biggest concern.

For Linden Lab as a business the concern should be "can our rules and TOS incriminate our residents" or "can this practice result in litigation, regulatory intervention or damaging media attention against our company".

Further, since countries like Germany are in the process of implementing much stricter regulation in this area, and the German population accounts for a significant portion of the overall SL economy, it is high risk business to allow conditions to prevail inside SL that could end the IP addresses of SL in the German child pornography filter. That would not only take out a significant portion of Linden Lab's revenue, but it would ruin every German land and business owner in SL as they simply would be blocked from accessing their assets.

if that bukkakke is inside then it is mature..it is private use..
now if i have that bukkakke in my house and am luring people to it or have a sign in my front yard saying..free bekkakkee animations inside my house come on in and use all you like..then i just turned my house into a free sex place and now it has to move to adult rated land or i have to rate my whole sim adult rated to keep it like that if it is a private estate..

understand that the adult rating deals with commercial and commerce..it's not an addition it is how it is now..the old CS is gone the new one is now in affect because there never was an adult rating before..

adult content is not a certain thing that comes out of the shoot as adult content..it is how it is presented to the grid and if it is presented to the people on the grid to use..

i can sell sex beds in my store on mature land aslong as i do not advertise them as a sex bed..the advertising has to stay within the maturity standards of mature to use mature search..

adult is about commerce and public while the same exact content used privately is rated mature..

While I personally have not seen evidence of it going on still, I am sure it likely is. It is *vastly* uncommon in the circles I run in, however. The last known places involved in that stuff that were at least somewhat known were booted from the grid some time ago.

As a result, if such activities exist, I suspect it is either very well hidden (and even avoiding contact with the rest of SL kid spaces), done for "lulz" or police/media "investigation," or done by some very stupid noobs. The latter two are what I suspect most from Gavin's example, but I wasn't there and can only speculate.

In any of the above cases -- I'll make it clear for those who seem to have missed this before -- I would hope people would abuse report examples of sexual ageplay when it is spotted.

Why don't you take a look at what is going on in your viewer's cache directory. You find the location in the Network tab under Preferences.

You would probably have thought my past RL girlfriends who were over 25 were objectionable based on their youthful appearance and short stature. You gonna make a law that I have to date only wrinkly big boned tall chicks in RL too?



So anyone who opposes your viewpoint is part of some kind of sci-fi "hive mind"?

Lias if you really wanna be elected "thinker" for this group, you're gonna have to develop the ability to think logically and argue rationally. So far your arguments are poorly pasted together diatribes based on emotional reactions to your own imagination.

She also should not assume everyone has, or will, click on that particular image. Why would I want to, by the sound of it? And I've read both sets of reactions. I'm not chancing it.

All the evidence in Gavin's example came from the concerned male in the virtual family as he was no longer comfortable with the situation. It was a REAL incident and he approached me for help. It was reported – accounts were removed by the g-team.

The kid was teleported out of the Hau Koda Infohub where the recruitment of her had taken place. She was a 13 year old girl wearing a child avatar, and asked to perform sexual services to the adult male.

It is not the first time we have reported such things out of Bay City. I have just not spoken about it before.