New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Then it would seem it is up to German citizens to rein in their oppressive government.

thats not what i said at all..i said that is what turns it into adult content ..LL says this as well..

show me where they say adult content is anything other than what they says it is in the definitions..
where does it state that the things you think are adult content are infact adult content?

i'm willing to bet you won't find it because that is where the definition of adult rated is..if it doesn't fit into their definition of adult rated then it is going to be mature rated..

because adult rated no matter what is not allowed on mature..

It is a picture of a young child with a BDSM ball gag in her mouth. It is innaproppriate. White wash cannot cover up that image.



I said none of you see anything innapropriate with that image at all. This goes to show the mindset of people unaware of what the phrase 'broadly offensive' is referring to.

and your going to Have to start admitting the obvious.

The intent of the scene was that she was a teen. For the sake of legality, the actress had to be 18, but, the character was intently younger. (^_^)y

Lias it is inappropriate - and crude to include pedophilia n a thread about child avatars. But you cannot begin to comprehend that. (^_^)y

Many do not need to click a image link to see it embedded in the forum thread. My iPhone shows me embedded images immediately. But I understand why you would not want to see something like that. Sadly, the child avatar apologist do not.

You included it when you posted a image of a young child with a sex toy in her mouth.

I'm not sure you understood my point. I also don't recall the character's age being made an issue of, just her sexual status (virgin.)

Lias, I would not ascribe blanket motivations to everyone in the thread, it undermines your argument.

It's a picture of an 18 year old avatar being silenced by her mistress for being too emotionally hard on herself, lately. (>_<

And I'm pretty sure that I'm only subject to the laws of the country or countries of which I am a citizen, since I am not physically visiting another country while playing SL.

I did no such thing. The avatar is 18. (^_^)y

These arguments are so ridiculous.

Every go to rent a movie in RL? Most video stores have a back room with adult films in them.

Parent's still go to these stores with their kids to rent movies.

Bits N Bobs DOES have extremely adult content, but its all upstairs. Downstairs they have the mundane sitting poses, even brushing your hair, or brushing your teeth animations. There is NO REASON Daniel couldn't go to Bits N Bobs in his child av as long as he stays downstairs.

Lias and Gavin, it is YOU that have the problem here, It is YOU that want to control who gets to do what in SL. Its extremely arrogant of you too.

Linden Labs has made it clear time and time again that kid avs are welcome in SL. They have clarified beyond any doubt what they can or cannot do. Hell one of the Lindens IS a child AV!

You don't like child avs in your world? Fine, buy some land and ban any that show up. Mute them if they come anywhere near you.

But stop trying to convince everyone that your way of thinking is the ONLY way of thinking and that because YOU don't like it they should all be banned.

Sounds a bit like the KKK or the Nazis to me.

Oh and this whole thing that anyone playing a child av is pedo play is bullshit. Its in your head and I understand that you believe it to be true, but that says a LOT more about what kind of perversions are going on inside YOUR head than it does anyone else.

Handy

Yes. We are all subject to TOS though, from the moment we agreed to it.



Am trying to understand. How can an avatar be 18? Or is that your point?

Do laws cover how old something 'looks,' including drawings?

None the less... They did knowingly hire an underage actress for a character that would have a sex scene. (^_^)

That happens from time to time in film. Taxi Driver, for instance. Pretty Baby. I'm not sure what the point is?

Can you state why that image of a young person with a sex toy in her mouth was pertinent to this discussion about child avatars in innapropriate settings in SL?

If Lias can claim someone else's avatar is 8, 13, or otherwise and consider it to be fact. I can claim my own avatar is 18 and consider it to be fact. (^_^)

In fact, some shape/skin sellers to put an age on the avatars they sell in order to advertise to a target audience. (^_^)y

Lias is defining rules and laws that don't exist and overreacting. (^_^)y

Hey, Lias, how old are these avatars?

Yes, and what do you say is cached there? I say it's textures and components parts that, after being decoded, can be assembled into images, rather as the contents of my larder and freezer could be assembled in various ways to make a variety of meals. What do you say it is, and what programme do you say I should use to open files like sobjects_1808_1197.slc or 0a8b412a-a8de-3d3b-cd23-ca7500c580ad (no extension) so we can check?

Sex toys go in the cooter and pooper. I basically symbolically presented an indication that I'd be silent. (^_^)

You may notice, I emoted and mimed my posts up until I spit the gag out. I even held out signs. (^_^)

The second thing I did was indicate to the crowd here how bloody deluded you are. Even though I present a legal, if barely, avatar to you... You continue to parade your anti-kid crusade around. You're seeing children where there are none. You're seeing violations where there are none. You're seeing sex where there is none. (^_^)

There are no dragons. Just windmills and the occasional lizard. (^_^)y

Ooh! Ooh! I'll try! =^-^=

From left to right...

216, 218, 210, and 300... The gray streak give the last one away. =^-^=

Its not Commerce AND Public. Commerce on its own is enough. As is Public on its own.

Certainly for commercial providers in most cases, adult content and activities are necessarily both Commercial and Public. For the rest of us commerce doesn't come into it and we are bound only by the public aspect of the policy. If we have a private sim to which we can restrict public access then we can pretty much continue as we always have, but on shared sims, mainland for instance, we have to be mindful of the neighbors.

Edit: I read your other post after I wrote the above. I know what you're saying. And hopefully I have clarified the matter as it affects me. Not being a commercial provider.

Wow, Godwinned twice and still the bluddy thing won't die! Brenda??
Meanwhile ...


/me steals Pep's smelly pants off Scylla and waves them in salute!

Handy, you're spot on with the rest of your post, though.

im still waiting on that mound of evidence....lias? gavin? anyone? Bueller???????