New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Contact the creator and ask him where his PG area store is - he usually has more than one on the grid. Or offer him PG retail space so you and your ilk can access the best developer animations on the grid.

There are ways to stay out of stores that sell sex animations that people try out in the showroom.

You have your fetishes - but to thrust them in the faces of people for lolz is inappropriate.
Finally - a glimmer of understanding.
No over reaction. I Just said the same thing over and over again until it seeped into your brain and you understood a portion of it enough to acknowledge it was inappropriate.

In situations where an animation store may operate a separate storefront in a PG or mature region, I agree, this would be the reasonable course of action. However, not all animation store owners can afford to own the parcels required to do so - or, to put it in Lias terms, "are not willing to make concessions".
Nobody of reasonable and sound mind would ever associate shopping for animations with sexual ageplay - not unless a group of child avatars was actively engaged in "trying out" the sexual poseballs. However, the child avatar community takes a *real* dim view of such shenanigans, and are often faster with the AR button than the adults. Child avatars seen engaging in such activities do not tend to last for long on the grid -- which further illustrates the point that policies in place are working exactly as they should be, that there IS no problem, and banning child avatars outright is completely unwarranted. The system, as it stands right now, works.

Had you merely said you found the image inappropriate, then that would be one thing, but you continued to claim knowing the avatar age better than the person depicted. That is quite different.

im still waiting on that mound of evidence....lias? gavin? anyone? Bueller???????

ok this is about the 5th or 6th time ive asked for this evidence...evidently there is none...

carry on.

They will give you the evidence when they tell me how they will define what makes a child AV.

oh and please throw in a definition of an apologist in this case and also the term pedo play....that one reminds me of play dough for some reason LOL

Point of Information: There's no need I can see, other than an abundance of caution, for Bits & Bobs to have flagged their main store as Adult in the first place. It appears in Search as "Mature Content," even though the region is flagged as "Adult,"and, as Blondin explained to us the other day,
http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Zindra_Alliance_-_Blondin_Linden_Meeting_Transcript:_18-09-2009

I believe what I said comes down to put up or shut up.

What I see here is someone that is as we say around here "All hat and no cattle"

30 minutes of inspiration and nostalgia.

The only one here who has consistently mentioned pedophilia - and the only one who seems rather keenly interested in the subject - is you.

Did you know that, during the time of the Salem Witch Trials, the ones most loudly and most vocally exposing people as being witches were in fact witches themselves?

I'm jus' sayin'...
Hmmmm... From a marketing perspective, I can't think of a single thing that screams "squeaky-clean" and "family-friendly" than a bunch of children running around!

Once again, your analogies, and the arguments you've built on them, are FAIL.

Don't bother. She said there was plenty of video evidence and that I should look it up myself; when I said that all the video evidence I could find was dated to BEFORE the SL ageplay ban in 2007, she informed me that another incident took place just a few days ago. I told her I couldn't find the video evidence for that, so she helpfully provided a link - to a video from BEFORE the ageplay ban in 2007. She has no idea what she's even saying anymore.

I agree with you. Child avatars should never have to visit adult-rated regions - ever. However, LL's whole entire adult content strategy is fundamentally flawed for the very reason that it does not prevent child avatars from having to go to an adult-rated region. Bits'n'Bobs is a perfect example of that. They sell a substantial number of child-friendly animations there. But they also sell adult anims; and for that reason alone, they were forced to move to an adult region. Sure, somebody could say, "well, why don't they just open TWO stores?" Yes, good point! So, who's volunteering to pay the extra tiers made necessary ONLY because of LL's incompetent handling of adult content? There are also a large number of residential estates that flagged "adult" in order to protect themselves and their residents from frivolous ARs.Nothing has physically changed about them; most still forbid sex acts out in the open. They are still the same kid-friendly places they were back when they were flagged "mature".

In short, there are plenty of valid reasons for a child avatar to be present in an adult region; but all of these reasons are directly due to LL's flawed adult-content policies.

No it is not.

"You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it does."

Sanctions means stopping an entity from doing something they want to do. You will not find many (if any) child avatars in SZL that are interested in sex there at all.

So if you are the only one picturing kids in sexual situations .....

The mentioned store is not the perfect example, as it has three stores (that I know), one on adult (main store), one with a smaller selection on mature land, and one PG store (on mature land). I don't use either stores enough to know if the selection of pg animations is the same in main store and PG store, but I would think so.

Had they only had the main store, however, then I would see no harm in a child avi visiting it. The adult animations are in a separate department, there are no adult images present, and I have yet to encounter anyone testing the animations in the buff.

Yes it is.

What are you playing at citing Shakey? He wrote Romeo and Juliet.

This.

THIS - would indicate that depicting yourself as a child in an ever increasing adult themed world is inappropriate and becoming more broadly offensive every day.

lolwut?

Are you now saying that *shapeshifting* is wrong... or impossible? That, just because Immy was once a child, she always will be, and she's not allowed to change?

srsly?

Doesn't this go completely against your earlier premise that child avatars should "age up" before going to adult places?

Or maybe, it isn't child avatars you want banned off the grid. You want entire groups of REAL PEOPLE banned from SL. Is that it?

You know, next time I need shoes, I'm going to come see you. I hear you have an entire Shoe Pavilion in your mouth.

You really are delusional.

And yet you keep commenting over and over again. You certainly have alot to say to refute a non-issue.

She did change - into her 'barely legal;' teen skin and shape she made. But the ball gag picture is of a younger avatar - and is offensive. To even depict a 18 year old in such a image is offensive.
Aging up after you post the picture of the child with the sex toy in her mouth defeats the purpose of aging up, Kat.