New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

OK, so your argument is that child avatars do not cause any physical harm to anyone. But that they are offensive. My suggestion, and the perfect solution to your problem: Don't look at them.

No one ever claimed that they did.
That is what I am working on.

Oh rest assured oh mighty one. You are being watched, Lias is supported and I have well over a 100Ims to back this up. We are far far from alone.

Just because you like to listen to the deluded sound of your collective borgkid av assess drone on and on doesnt make it right.

There are private sims setup up. I know this for a fact now. Its only a matter of time....

Lias Keep fighting for everyone of these lame kiddie supporters theres at least 10 of us watching and learning. You cnat argue with them. they cant see past the end of thier noses. Thus I dont waste my breathe on them because they arent worth it.

pfft.
Kiddie avs.

sickos

one and all.

Prok just may be right....

When bans happen there are warning signs. Not a few rabble rousers yelling the sky will fall if something is not done.

I do not agree with Lias' opinions. I often do not agree with "presentation" or "tactics."

But if there was a "silent majority" - they are damn sure NOT going to venture into one of these threads or many others and express themselves. That's a FACT.

Good point.

Another member of the elite group right on cue

I do recall a couple of individual kids who were pushing for boycotts (I even have one of their "boycott" shirts in inventory somewhere), but the major kid groups did not call for such. Rather, we opted to promote our own event, and allied with other groups (ironically, given this discussion, with with BDSM and other adult content groups) attempting to change the policies in a peaceful (for SL) manner.

From the kids there was never a call for any of the event organizers to "step down." Ariel did choose resign over this. SignpostMarv did also step down over this and others issues. Phaylen and Poid came into the event at that time and stayed with it and other SL events (SL6B, Burning Life 200. Dusty and Everett Linden stayed with the event, though the latter has since "moved onto other opportunities." If anything, we as a community attempted to be very sympathetic to organizers who were just as unhappy as any of us.

Policy did change and there were at least four kid themed builds at SL5B, including my own. The Kids5B event was also a success, and the positive tone taken by the event organizers, IMO, helped.

Here's some handy URLs, for those who might want to go back to those Halcyon days...

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1231
http://firstlife.isfullofcrap.com/2008/05/the_fake_children.html
http://www.vintfalken.com/children-not-welcome-at-sl5b/
http://dusanwriter.com/?p=536
http://kids5b.blogspot.com/
http://secondlifechildren.blogspot.com/2008/05/more-on-sl5b.html

Blondin. Made the move a sucess? Had the power to do anything wrt the adult content move?

*blink*

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is one other Zindra infohub in Oritz, it's not markedly different in character from Arapamia.

Personally, I would prefer not to be routed to an infohub at all. Given options, I'd prefer to:

1.) Stay offline until my last region was available again.
2.) Go to my home location
3.) Choose one of my landmarks to go to, or a list of preferred alternate locations
4.) Open the map and select a location.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15568

Please point them to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-15568

I see you missed my point completely there.

oh please, your not even worthy of quoting me. Go play in a corner with the rest of the little kids.

Thanks, Milla. That's an even better solution.

Just like you refused to give us any REAL answers when we raised very legitimate concerns to your plan?

How about at least a token from you here? Just answer the one about you expecting people to willingly give up all the inventory they paid for so they can have the joy of starting over as a noob.

If child avatars are offensive to you rather than their actions that is your problem. Have a legitimate gripe about it? Talk to LL.

You're the one with the kid alt

Nice one!

Where? Arapaima is in the middle of the ocean and Oritz is in the middle of nowhere.. both have signs up about no nudity and so on.. are there any others?

I am genuinely confused what the problem's supposed to be.

There isn't a problem, this is serious mountain out of a molehill territory.

...the only one here that's admittedly looking for sexual ageplay, no less. I'm surprised Lias isn't using her as an example of how evil we all are.

This is bat country!

With child avatars, the problem is being AR'd by some intolerant individual just for being there, even though it is not a TOS violation.

With adult avatars, it's generally when you're routed there involuntarily and happen to be in a compromising position (like naked) which is a violation of the rules at all infohubs.

Huge problem? Probably not unless something besides just landing there goes horribly wrong, like not being able to teleport out in a timely manner, and the G-Teamer who gets the AR report got up on the wrong side of bed this morning.

i just don't understand the confusion really..i mean the Lab has show the direction it wants to go..
we know sometime in the future there will be a teen grid merge..when?who knows but there will be one at some point..

they are aiming at this being used more as a learning tool communication tool a work tool ect..
let alone looking to make it more family orientated..

to get the grid back on track they have to clean it up..so why would anyone think they would get rid of something like child avatars before they would all that stuff they just recently sent off to some distant island way out of the way so far off to the right that if you didn't know it was over there you couldn't see it on the world map..something that new people have to figure out to set to see them on search..out of sight out of mind..

if it came down to child avatars leaving or adult rated stuff..my money would be in the direction the lab is heading..they may be slow but they seem to stick to the plan..

Do people really think they are going to get rid of child avatars that families will be using in the future because some adult content people are upset over some issue that is not really a big issue to them??
you don't think they know that most kids that sneak on the grid are not hiding in child avatars? lol
they are hanging in adult avatars..i mean c'mon everyone was a kid once..all you have to think is .where would you hide?

I was wondering when Ciera would put in an appearance.