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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 06:14
From: Eli Schlegal
Texas Hold em is not a "traditional casino game"? Games were not banned... gambling with money was banned. You can have a random number generator if no money is changing hands.
In the same way... ponographic images involving children have been banned. Not all images of children.
In the same way... child avatars involved in sexual activities have been banned. Not all child avatars.
See the similarity? By bringing up the gambling issue you actually are arguing against your own failed logic.
Random number generators are banned Eli.
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09-23-2009 06:16
From: Lias Leandros
Random number generators are banned Eli.


Documentation?
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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 06:16
From: Chris Norse
We could solve all these problems if we would just ban the following : Michael Jackson, Roman Polanski, Jerry Lee Lewis, Mooney Lynn, and Gary Glitter avatars.

There problem solved.
Or e-mail them a copy of the ToS - Immy says they solicit child avatars for sex because they are not aware that it is not allowed in Second Life. But it never really happens anyway.
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09-23-2009 06:17
From: Lias Leandros
Traditional casino games were banned. Traditional casino games have random number generators - which made them gambling machines. if your device has a random number generator in it - it is illegal.

Like the dice that are in every resident's library?
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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 06:18
From: Chris Norse
Documentation?
Dude, really?
Send a ticket into Linden Lab and ask them - or go to the new help blorum thing and ask.
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09-23-2009 06:19
From: Lias Leandros
Dude, really?
Send a ticket into Linden Lab and ask them - or go to the new help blorum thing and ask.


You are making the claim, I expect you to back it up.
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Dakota Tebaldi
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09-23-2009 06:20
From: Lias Leandros

Again, it is about the perceptions of children in inappropriate adult settings. When adults wear child avatars and engage in adult activities in SL - it is broadly offensive - that is what is being discussed here.


Wrong. This is my thread. I started it, and I started it to talk about child avatars who accidentally end up in adult venues protecting themselves from attack during the time it takes for them to realize they're in the wrong place and leave. It is not about adults wearing child avatars and engaging in adult activities in SL. Such is already against the rules and nobody in this thread has a problem with that. It's not controversial in the least.
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09-23-2009 06:24
From: Lias Leandros
Traditional casino games were banned. Traditional casino games have random number generators - which made them gambling machines. if your device has a random number generator in it - it is illegal.
llFrand(1);

This post is illegal. (^_^)y
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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 06:24
From: Dakota Tebaldi
Wrong. This is my thread. I started it,
You only have absolute control on your own blog, not in a public forum.
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and I started it to talk about child avatars who accidentally end up in adult venues protecting themselves from attack during the time it takes for them to realize they're in the wrong place and leave. It is not about adults wearing child avatars and engaging in adult activities in SL. Such is already against the rules and nobody in this thread has a problem with that. It's not controversial in the least.
And I responded by suggesting ways for you to make sure that does not happen again. Then the greek chorus chimed in - and here we are.
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09-23-2009 06:25
From: Chris Norse
You are making the claim, I expect you to back it up.
Your expectation will not be met.
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09-23-2009 06:26
From: Lias Leandros
Your expectation will not be met.
Neither will yours. (^_^)y
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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 06:27
Don't count on it.
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Kara Spengler
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09-23-2009 06:30
From: Lias Leandros
Random number generators are banned Eli.

*boggles*

why does exist then? For that matter, why is information about it *gasp* on secondlife.com servers?
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09-23-2009 06:33
From: Lias Leandros
Don't count on it.

do you have inside info making you so sure or are just suffering from delusion of grandure making you think you hold the absolute truth?
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09-23-2009 06:39
From: Lias Leandros
You only have absolute control on your own blog, not in a public forum.


Then do not presume to tell anyone what this is "not the right thread" for.

From: Lias Leandros
And I responded by suggesting ways for you to make sure that does not happen again. Then the greek chorus chimed in - and here we are.


Your methods were ridiculous and the product not of reason but only of your peurile and paranoid loathing of child avatars, and so were rejected as spurious. That's your fault, not anyone else's.

You're lucky that we're thinking people here, Lias. People who so obsessively link virtual images of children with sex the way you do often find themselves the targets of unflattering suspicion.
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09-23-2009 06:43
From: Dakota Tebaldi
Then do not presume to tell anyone what this is "not the right thread" for.
I will do as I please - and respect your elders, shorty.
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Your methods were ridiculous
Anything suggested that would include YOU making any allowances would be deemed ridiculous to you - that has already been established.
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You're lucky that we're thinking people here,
That has yet to be proven
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People who so obsessively link virtual images of children with sex the way you do often find themselves the targets of unflattering suspicion.
You little mobsters don't scare me. Continue to try to squash the conversation.

But here is a tip: Do not start tongue-in-cheek threads on a subject you do not want discussed in a public forum, genius.
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09-23-2009 06:43
From: Lias Leandros
Random number generators are banned Eli.
You can't be serious. Maybe you *are* in this for the lulz.
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09-23-2009 06:52
From: Lias Leandros
I will do as I please - and respect your elders, shorty.


And so will everyone else in this thread - deal.

From: Lias Leandros
Anything suggested that would include YOU making any allowances would be deemed ridiculous to you - that has already been established.


No, really just anything YOU suggest. It wasn't to that point when this thread was started, but it's gotten to that point. Until the events of the past week, I at least took you seriously even if I didn't agree with you.

From: Lias Leandros
That has yet to be proven


I'd post a picture of my irony meter reading of this quip, but it just exploded.

From: Lias Leandros
But here is a tip: Do not start tongue-in-cheek threads on a subject you do not want discussed in a public forum, genius.


Don't worry about my tongue - and this thread wasn't about a subject I didn't want discussed until you came here and hijacked it.
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09-23-2009 07:05
From: Abigail Merlin
do you have inside info making you so sure or are just suffering from delusion of grandure making you think you hold the absolute truth?


It's neither; it's just Lias being mad. She's always said that child avs were a bad thing - some paranoia about child avs suddenly showing up to legitimate adult businessplaces and ARing the people or proprietors or something. Basically her argument - both then and now - was that child avatars are a liability and a threat to "innocent" adult activities in SL, and should be banned for that reason.

But what does LL end up doing? Rounding up all the adult activities and quarantining them on their own little continent, leaving the rest of SL free and clear for child avs to roam and lark and play without harassment! Not only that, but they pointedly and repeatedly refuse to restrict child avs from going to the new adult continent too. That's really gotta put a couple of pebbles in her shoes.
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Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 07:10
From: Dakota Tebaldi
But what does LL end up doing? Rounding up all the adult activities and quarantining them on their own little continent, leaving the rest of SL free and clear for child avs to roam and lark and play without harassment! Not only that, but they pointedly and repeatedly refuse to restrict child avs from going to the new adult continent too.
Enough rope to hang yourself?
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09-23-2009 07:13
From: Dakota Tebaldi
Basically her argument - both then and now - was that child avatars are a liability and a threat to "innocent" adult activities in SL, and should be banned for that reason.

Or just that she does not want to risk temptation?

From: Dakota Tebaldi
But what does LL end up doing? Rounding up all the adult activities and quarantining them on their own little continent

Hmm ... as if they were indicating what they might want banned ...
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09-23-2009 07:16
Notice no adult business owner is desperately posting to ward off such a ruling - Like you all are.
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09-23-2009 07:20
From: Lias Leandros
Notice no adult business owner is desperately posting to ward off such a ruling - Like you all are.


Huh?
Abigail Merlin
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09-23-2009 07:23
From: Kara Spengler
Hmm ... as if they were indicating what they might want banned ...

the did use the term broadly offencive when discribing what is adult content....
Lias Leandros
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09-23-2009 07:25
Kara suggested that Linden Lab gathered up all of the adult business and placed it on one continent in order to ban the adult content easily. I suggested that no adult business owner seems to be in fear of that since none of them are publicly trying to ward off such a fate. But the child avatar apologists have posted hundreds of posts in defense of their survival.

Hope that little twitter update helped you catch up:-)
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