Sex in SL lets see what the majority is
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Colette Meiji
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06-01-2007 18:20
From: Ciaran Laval I'm on Squeezeone Pow's side here, I feel the majority of residents are SLirgins (lol that makes me laugh). However regulars on the forum probably aren't. The vast majority of people don't come here. No pun intended! I dont think so. there is NO WAY the majority of active accounts in second life are SLirgins. No way - I wont beleive that unless someone gives me some kind of scientific proof. ALL the people on my friends list save TWO have enaged in SL sex at one time or another of the ones the dating subject came up. Thats out of dozens. From my experience: The number one activity in second life - bar none - is playing house. And all the things that go with it.
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06-01-2007 18:24
From: Annie Malaprop And again with the personal attacks while claiming you're the one who's being attacked. *shakes head* Im sorry Annie, I have tried to refrain from mentioning any names , you however, have targeted me by name with your every post. And to the poster that wondered if I had intended this thread to turn out like this, Absolutely not, I thought it would be a fun poll, I didnt think people would rip it and me personally apart. and start accusing me if "intentionally misrepresenting" and being "intellectual dishonest". Come on is there any reason at all to be throwing stones like this?, do you think its right to say someone is "intellectual dishonest" or to say they are "intentionally misrepresenting" something? and then when I protest being smeared like this I get labeled with the "wild accusations of persecution" this is what I have to say about these posters F%&K &*@
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06-01-2007 18:25
From: Rusty Satyr Hm. I think people that enjoy cybering just naturally spend less time in the forums or creating.
For those of us that aren't into cybering, we need to find other ways to get our jollies. Exactly they have more time for both relationships and one night stands Without a stake in the health of SL - such as a business, theres simply less reason to go on the forums for many.
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06-01-2007 18:33
From: SqueezeOne Pow Romance novels are written for housewives that don't get any anymore.
SL sex is a substitute for the RL sex people aren't getting.
Do your thing but don't try to make it look like a noble, creative or otherwise worthwhile activity any more than some good old timey masturbating is. Hmm and SL investing is a subsitute for people who can't RL invest too 
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06-01-2007 18:37
From: Cristalle Karami SL sex is just roleplay that facilitates mental and emotional intimacy. That is, if you actually care about the other av and the person behind it.
Purchased sex, anonymous sex, all the other less personal forms - it's just interactive porn. I can't believe how people get off on seeing just an image, and (sometimes badly) pixellated one at that (think noob skin and off-colored stiffies). So you think people can't get off on emotional interactions too? Do you have to care deeply / love someone to enjoy sex? Sounds pretty close minded and self limiting to me. 2 People can enjoy a one off stand just as much as any couple enjoy regular sex. So what if it's interactive porn, there are people who can get off on a book or magazine, putting a another human being behind things is much more real. The Internet is for PORN ! 
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06-01-2007 19:07
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Im sorry Annie, I have tried to refrain from mentioning any names , you however, have targeted me by name with your every post.
And to the poster that wondered if I had intended this thread to turn out like this, Absolutely not, I thought it would be a fun poll, I didnt think people would rip it and me personally apart. and start accusing me if "intentionally misrepresenting" and being "intellectual dishonest". Come on is there any reason at all to be throwing stones like this?, do you think its right to say someone is "intellectual dishonest" or to say they are "intentionally misrepresenting" something? and then when I protest being smeared like this I get labeled with the "wild accusations of persecution" this is what I have to say about these posters F%&K &*@ First, I use your name out of basic courtesy, because in a busy forum like this it can be very confusing trying to figure who is responding to whom in each comment. Second, I accused you of intellectual dishonesty IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS CONVERSATION, and I stand by that. I told you what I thought and felt about what you were saying. I did not go out of my way to insult you, create elaborate theories about your psychological motivations and issues, make value judgments about the kind of person you are, and generally try to demean you as a person. You, on the other hand, have done ALL of the above in response to people who disagreed with you. I'm am very tempted to post an example of what it would like if I responded to you using the same type of personal attacks that you have been using all along, but I'll refrain. In short, it seems to me that you are having real some difficulty understanding the difference between attacking a position and attacking the person. I've done the former, while you have mostly engaged in the latter. I have tried to point out examples of where you have done this, and you still don't seem to get it. You might try looking up the phrase "ad hominem." It probably won't help, but it's worth a try. That's it, I'm done. This is pointless.
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06-01-2007 19:19
From: Annie Malaprop In short, it seems to me that you are having real some difficulty understanding the difference between attacking a position and attacking the person. I've done the former, while you have mostly engaged in the latter. I have tried to point out examples of where you have done this, and you still don't seem to get it. You might try looking up the phrase "ad hominem." It probably won't help, but it's worth a try.
Infact I have not stated my "position" or my "opinion" on Sex in SL. so if I have no stated position you must obviously be attacking me personally, I think thats quite clear. And dont think for a second quoting Latin phrases makes your argument any more credible..
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06-01-2007 19:28
"What's funny is that with all this angry debate/arguement we see the "never had sex in SL" section being the majority..."
You and the OP seem to have taken the same math class.
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October McLeod
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06-01-2007 19:28
From: SqueezeOne Pow Maybe I refuse to see that I live in a world where "don't buy gas for a day" and "don't shop at Wal-Mart" is considered activism. Again you assume. Here's a tip: stop that. It makes you look like an ass.
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06-01-2007 19:37
Well a pole with 300 or so participants is hardly indicative of the whole. However the sex crowd does double the no sex crowd in said pole.
It realy doesn't take much looking beyond the ten most popular places list to see what drives second life. Every one of them is either sex, or gambling oriented, go figure. Porn and gambling, just like the rest of the internet.
Some of the most wildly successful "content creators"? yes, again sex oriented, be it xcite, sexgen, or you name it. It is what made second life as big as it is.
And lets not even get started on how much of the population are Furries.
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06-01-2007 19:45
I am assuming that people who never have sex in SL also never engage in any other normal human activities such as eating, drinking, talking, walking etc etc. Why should sex be different than any other activity unless a person considers it dirty and beneath their dignity as a moral crusader.... 
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06-01-2007 19:53
From: Tegg Bode So you think people can't get off on emotional interactions too? Do you have to care deeply / love someone to enjoy sex? Sounds pretty close minded and self limiting to me. 2 People can enjoy a one off stand just as much as any couple enjoy regular sex. So what if it's interactive porn, there are people who can get off on a book or magazine, putting a another human being behind things is much more real. The Internet is for PORN !  You misunderstand the tone. I absolutely do think people get off on emotional intimacy. What I don't understand is the drooling at (sometimes badly) pixellated parts.
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06-01-2007 20:43
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Infact I have not stated my "position" or my "opinion" on Sex in SL. so if I have no stated position you must obviously be attacking me personally, I think thats quite clear. And dont think for a second quoting Latin phrases makes your argument any more credible.. To Quote Jackson from earlier in the thread: "No. actually the "rarely have SL Sex" is mostlikey composed of the "I tried it once" crowd and dont think they should be counted in with the SL sex addict crowd. 2 pro-sex choices and 2 not. " That appears to be stating an opinion to me. You are projecting your thoughts on what the word "rarely" means. Even tho you did not define it in your question. If that is not offering an opinion, I don't know what is.
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06-01-2007 20:53
While sex was never my main driving force of Second Life (exploring, creating, designing, modifying, experimenting, ect were), it has become part of my SL experience more recently, as I develop and grow in a relationship.
I think it's a fine and healthy way to connect with someone, if you so choose, and if you choose not to, that is fine as well. It's not the end all be all of Second Life, but more often than not it appears to be.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-01-2007 20:54
From: Chris Norse To Quote Jackson from earlier in the thread:
"No. actually the "rarely have SL Sex" is mostlikey composed of the "I tried it once" crowd and dont think they should be counted in with the SL sex addict crowd.
2 pro-sex choices and 2 not. "
That appears to be stating an opinion to me. You are projecting your thoughts on what the word "rarely" means. Even tho you did not define it in your question. If that is not offering an opinion, I don't know what is. It does state AN opinion, but not my opinion on SEX IN SL and that is what the thread is about so let it go Chris
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06-01-2007 21:09
From: Jackson Rickenbacker It does state AN opinion, but not my opinion on SEX IN SL and that is what the thread is about so let it go Chris When you assigned meaning to the word "rarely" whose opinion were you giving? Did you have IM conversations with everyone who voted that way? Did you ask them if "rarely" most likely meant what you said it did? If not, you were giving your opinion on what people voting in your poll said. When you are called on it you start to back peddle and make claims of being flamed and attacked. Ok, then according to your poll, people who have sex in SL out number those who don't 2 to 1 roughly. That is the only result that can be taken from the answers given.
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06-01-2007 21:32
From: Susie Boffin I am assuming that people who never have sex in SL also never engage in any other normal human activities such as eating, drinking, talking, walking etc etc. Why should sex be different than any other activity unless a person considers it dirty and beneath their dignity as a moral crusader....  Why? Because SL's pixel sex is the most wretched pixel sex I've ever seen. (And, yes, I've tried it. It was boring and almost anti-erotic.) Give me plain text any day, because words are the most powerful sex toy ever created. The avs and their bits are just a distraction, though I do admire xcite for the cleverness of their coding. But, you're right. I don't have my avatar eat or drink ('cause the animations look like crap), and I only walk him when I need to to get to a location (though considering the usual lag and slow rezzing I often give up and fly). He isn't my Neopet - he's my surrogate, created so that I can experience the world he's in. Why should I imitate meeting needs he doesn't have? That's just dull and silly if it doesn't happen in an entertaining or creative way.
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06-01-2007 21:48
From: Jackson Rickenbacker It does state AN opinion, but not my opinion on SEX IN SL and that is what the thread is about so let it go Chris Then state your opinion already. You've been dancing around it for 10 pages now, pony up and tells us where you stand on the issue.
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Colette Meiji
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06-01-2007 22:05
From: Chris Norse When you assigned meaning to the word "rarely" whose opinion were you giving? Did you have IM conversations with everyone who voted that way? Did you ask them if "rarely" most likely meant what you said it did? If not, you were giving your opinion on what people voting in your poll said. When you are called on it you start to back peddle and make claims of being flamed and attacked.
Ok, then according to your poll, people who have sex in SL out number those who don't 2 to 1 roughly. That is the only result that can be taken from the answers given. One thought on this assumed meaning stuff the OP had- wouldnt someone who tried SL sex once or twice and gave up on it, just as likely chose the "NEVER' catagory anyhow? As in "I never have SL sex now"
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06-01-2007 22:19
Man, I never seen such a bunch of arguers, you all should be proud of yourselves. Im not even going to try and defend myself anymore its clear you people are witchhunting..
Oh and my stance, I voted rarely, I think theres better things to do, but I realize some people expand relationships here , and sexual activity is part of the relationship process. I think unless your in a relationship in SL, its more a novelty than anything else
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06-01-2007 22:52
From: Broccoli Curry You won't get a representative view here because only a small fraction of the community post, and many of those that agree with the new Linden policy are afraid to stand up and say so because of the abuse they'll get either in-world or on here.
Having said that, my only criticism of the new policy is that it should have been introduced several years ago, before SL got so big and some of the things now considered inappropriate material became so widespread.
I think the biggest problem to most people is the realisation that a) first amendment rights do not apply in SL, b) 70% of the playerbase are not bound by the US constitution in real life, and c) Linden Lab can do whatever they like, at any time, for any reason, without notice, and there isn't diddle we can do about it.
Broccoli LL stated only about 31 Percent of the Player base is From the United States.
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06-02-2007 00:08
From: Cristalle Karami You misunderstand the tone. I absolutely do think people get off on emotional intimacy. What I don't understand is the drooling at (sometimes badly) pixellated parts. It's not the pixelated parts it's the actions & emotions coming from the other person through SL.
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06-02-2007 00:13
From: Egil Milner Why? Because SL's pixel sex is the most wretched pixel sex I've ever seen. (And, yes, I've tried it. It was boring and almost anti-erotic.) Give me plain text any day, because words are the most powerful sex toy ever created. The avs and their bits are just a distraction, though I do admire xcite for the cleverness of their coding.
You assume that all sex in SL is pixel sex? Because plain text sex is going to be banned too. It's just as bad to text say BDSM as to depict it.
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06-02-2007 00:15
From: Chris Norse To Quote Jackson from earlier in the thread:
"No. actually the "rarely have SL Sex" is mostlikey composed of the "I tried it once" crowd and dont think they should be counted in with the SL sex addict crowd. 2 pro-sex choices and 2 not. "
That appears to be stating an opinion to me. You are projecting your thoughts on what the word "rarely" means. Even tho you did not define it in your question. If that is not offering an opinion, I don't know what is. Actually seeing I have only had sex in SL one in 6 montths I voted never, but that doesn't mean I want sex removed from SL.
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06-02-2007 00:19
From: Jackson Rickenbacker Man, I never seen such a bunch of arguers, you all should be proud of yourselves. Im not even going to try and defend myself anymore its clear you people are witchhunting..
Oh and my stance, I voted rarely, I think theres better things to do, but I realize some people expand relationships here , and sexual activity is part of the relationship process. I think unless your in a relationship in SL, its more a novelty than anything else And what's wrong with novelties, why do we need to be in a relationship to have sex? What are you working for the church or something?
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