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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-02-2007 13:10
From: hope Antonelli
LOL..talk about the Nazi elistist. If you can't create anything WE deem worthwhile, then don't let the door hit you on the way out. I, for one, don't know the least bit about programming or building. I DO however, spend a great deal of money in SL...and trust me, I'm not the only one. When you've purged the world of every last 'pervert' and you have your nice little Disney world to live in..I hope you still have customers to buy all your creative endeavors. Most people came to SL to have a chance to escape RL, not to have it staring them in the face again. I dont have to pay 300 a month to pay for a SIM for that.



Your 300 a month dont mean alot to the larger picture think about that, if you stop paying they get someone else who does pay, once you buy a sim, they are going to get 300 a month whether your the one paying for it or not.

Phils is going to realize his vision one way or another, he's gotten this far, and he'll see it thru, and his vision doesnt include a gridwide brothel
hope Antonelli
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06-02-2007 13:13
Nice try...you're still saying if I can't contribute what YOU think is worthwhile content (I'm 40+ years old, not going back to college to learn programming, scripting or building just to make you happy, sorry) then I shouldn't be here. Last time I checked, LL took my monthly premium payment without asking what I contribute to be allowed to log in. OH, but I guess thats YOUR job now.
Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-02-2007 13:18
From: hope Antonelli
Nice try...you're still saying if I can't contribute what YOU think is worthwhile content (I'm 40+ years old, not going back to college to learn programming, scripting or building just to make you happy, sorry) then I shouldn't be here. Last time I checked, LL took my monthly premium payment without asking what I contribute to be allowed to log in. OH, but I guess thats YOUR job now.



Hey Im not the blog poster ok? I didnt make the blog, nor did I authorize it, so lets not mix what I think is worthwhile content, I'll Let LL fight thier own fights, all I said is your 300 a month dont have alot of pull in the larger picture.

Look at the actions of the past couple months, and the restrictions they keep impletementing, its pretty obvious what direction LL is taking, so it shouldnt need to be spelt out

OH if you got to go to college to learn to build or to script.... well, thats you but I doubt most others had to go to college to accomplish that feat
Aleister Montgomery
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06-02-2007 13:25
From: Jackson Rickenbacker

I think the results look like this, more people have never tried SL sex(33%) as opposed to how manyconsider themselves SL sex Addicts(7%)

There is more people who frequently(35.41%) have SL sex as opposed to rarely have SL sex(24.59%)

If you where to take the folks that aere SL sex addicts and the ones that have frequent SL sex your percentage is 42.43% as opposed to those who have never had SL sex or have rarely had SL sex 57.56%


Now, that calculation is messed up. How can you count people who rarely have cybersex to those who never engage in cybersex? I rarely have sex in SL too, since I work most of the time. Nonetheless I'm a clear advocate of online sex. That I do something rarely (i.e. only spend about 5% of my online time doing it) doesn't mean that I'm willing to do without it.

Btw, the things I spend the major part of my time working on are adult toys, which are bought by those who either rarely, frequently or non-stoppingly engage in cybersex. Only the 33% minority who so far didn't try virtual sex (which doesn't mean that they have no plans to ever do so) don't belong to my customers.
Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-02-2007 13:28
From: Aleister Montgomery
Now, that calculation is messed up. How can you count people who rarely have cybersex to those who never engage in cybersex? I rarely have sex in SL too, since I work most of the time. Nonetheless I'm a clear advocate of online sex. That I do something rarely (i.e. only spend about 5% of my online time doing it) doesn't mean that I'm willing to do without it.

Btw, the things I spend the major part of my time working on are adult toys, which are bought by those who either rarely, frequently or non-stoppingly engage in cybersex. Only the 33% minority who so far didn't try virtual sex (which doesn't mean that they have no plans to ever do so) don't belong to my customers.



So you think the onetimer that tried on a noobie prim penis and went to hard alley should be counted in with your customers? lol be a little more realistic (left)and a little less (right) whatever... too bad they cant script intelligence
Kitty Barnett
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06-02-2007 13:33
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Quite honestly if you spend your time having sex frequently or all the time, your really missing out on the most unique and interesting features of SL, commerce and profit.
People who are primarily driven by profit have the most unique and interesting SL experience? Land flippers, ad plot cutters, freebie reseller, texture/IP thieves are the people most driven by greed and they're also considered the bane of the community by an overwhelming portion of residents. If the only reason you're in SL is for the money, that's actually far sadder than those who are only here for "pixelbumping" and nothing else.

You're also missing the obvious point that you can't have "profit" without a large mass of consumers. If everyone's a content creator, you enter a barter economy, where everyone can just make do with what's available and there is no profit for you to be had since noone needs to actually trade L$ for US $.

It also shouldn't be surprising that sex isn't the driving factor behind SL, it isn't in RL either, but that doesn't mean most people don't consider it a normal part of life which they do engage in, some more frequently than others.

The only "conclusion" you can make of this poll is that a minority has no interest in trying it, a majority does or did see enough of an appeal in it to try it and that about half continues to find it an enjoyable way to pass the time.

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Presidential exit polls are typically based off of a less than 1% slice of the public right?
Polls are attributed meaning because they're conducted across a cross-section of the population, a forum poll holds no meaning about the actual SL population, at best it's representative for the people who frequent the forums.
Ciaran Laval
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06-02-2007 13:34
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
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Quite honestly if you spend your time having sex frequently or all the time, your really missing out on the most unique and interesting features of SL, commerce and profit. Long after the sex is gone, and beleive me it is going. there will still be commerce and profits, and hardly a single business outside of the sex market is going to miss those who leave


I have always been useless at art, I can script, I haven't done scripting here but I know how to write scripts. However right now my main businesses are land and reselling. I have a reseller deal with a very good clothing designer, not the perfect business model but it works for me for now.

However you're very naive if you think that hardly a single business outside of sex will miss it when it leaves. Let's just look at it from my point of view, so I rent land to a stripper, she may also buy some of my clothes.

Not only do I miss out on the rent, I also miss out on my clothing sales, hence I buy less off the designer, hence her profits take a hit too ...can you not see this one coming? People work in sex places to earn money and then spend that money on PG rated items, you surely can't think that only the sex industry will take a hit.
Tegg Bode
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06-02-2007 15:54
More people find griefing more annoying than sex, so I think we should ban building & scripting as well, the majority aren't using them, also ban land sales to stop flipping & landbots too.
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06-02-2007 16:10
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
So you think the onetimer that tried on a noobie prim penis and went to hard alley should be counted in with your customers? lol be a little more realistic (left)and a little less (right) whatever... too bad they cant script intelligence


Wish they could script manners.
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 16:13
From: Jackson Rickenbacker

Quite honestly if you spend your time having sex frequently or all the time, your really missing out on the most unique and interesting features of SL, commerce and profit. Long after the sex is gone, and beleive me it is going. there will still be commerce and profits, and hardly a single business outside of the sex market is going to miss those who leave Phil R. said himself he didnt intend on having a sexcapade world where anything goes, his vision is a new kind of business platform. So instead of living out your wildest gay fantasies, learn a SL trade and start being a part of the better community LL is talking about.. if not, GTFO. And thats what the real message in the blog post is


I have a well paying job in RL thank you , I don't come to Second Life to work. If it is a way for you to make money , wonderful. I come here to have a little fun, and spend some of the money I make in RL. On products and services offered by the residents here. A businesses products are worthless if no one buys them. So all of you Creative Cultural Elitists stop looking down on those who in your opinion don't contribute. We contribute to the very same "Business Platform" you are bowing down to. It needs us to survive. You may not like the sex based trades, I may not like them, but to dismiss them as insignifican't in the SL economy is a bit short sighted. A resident created the Sex gen bed people use. A resident created the scripts that go into the bed. Residents build the shops these items are sold in. and the Homes peple use them in And so on.
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hope Antonelli
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06-02-2007 16:18
Oh, Jackson has already shown his disdain for us poor, uncreative masses. I doubt he's going to be swayed by anything anyone says to the contrary. I'll just have to email him the 'I told you so' when the economy collapses on their elitist little heads.
Aleister Montgomery
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06-02-2007 16:22
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
So you think the onetimer that tried on a noobie prim penis and went to hard alley should be counted in with your customers? lol be a little more realistic (left)and a little less (right) whatever... too bad they cant script intelligence


If you rarely eat fish, you aren't automatically on the side of people who want to outlaw all fish products. Rarely means you don't do something all the time. You have 33% people (on the forum, where usually the content creators read & post, not the sex addicts) who state that they never had any cybersex. And even that doesn't mean they want to see it banned from SL.
FireFox Bancroft
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06-02-2007 16:53
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Early on LL sacrificed thier Vision of a business platform for the popularity of a world wher sexual fantasies can be lived out, but the problem is now, sexual activities are so prevailant in SL that business is hindered by the noob with the prim penis flying into a business meeting and generally doing what noobs do.
If LL is going to realize thier vision of what SL will be, then the sex has to be separated from the business world. not saying it should be outlawed, but definately separated, maybe a new 3rd gird Teen grid, Main grid and Adult grid


By the term "noob" I'm assuming you are referring to the often misspelled term griefer (by the way the proper spelling is Griever, look it up in Websters http://www.m-w.com). Or do you mean every newcomer to SL?

Please be careful with the terminology you use in the future.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-02-2007 17:15
Thankfully my business model wont be affected at all by the closure of the sex industry, wow , I actually had some more insight that alot of others.. and only the strong survive...
Chris Norse
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06-02-2007 17:32
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Thankfully my business model wont be affected at all by the closure of the sex industry, wow , I actually had some more insight that alot of others.. and only the strong survive...



Are you saying that the removal from the economy of the sex industry money won't affect land prices? Causing them to drop. Not only the removal of the money but the dumping of all the land from the sex industry. Plus the large number of people who will leave and thus not be buying land. Sex goes land prices go through the floor.
Ciaran Laval
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06-02-2007 17:51
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Thankfully my business model wont be affected at all by the closure of the sex industry, wow , I actually had some more insight that alot of others.. and only the strong survive...


Right because people in the sex industry never ever buy your products, or people in the sex industry never buy the products from the people who then buy your products. Dream on.

You can't lose 40% of the users and expect not to take a hit, how naive are you? 40% unemployment we're talking here, everyone will take a hit.
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 18:07
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Thankfully my business model wont be affected at all by the closure of the sex industry, wow , I actually had some more insight that alot of others.. and only the strong survive...

What do you sell by the way?
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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06-02-2007 18:18
From: Ciaran Laval
Right because people in the sex industry never ever buy your products, or people in the sex industry never buy the products from the people who then buy your products. Dream on.

You can't lose 40% of the users and expect not to take a hit, how naive are you? 40% unemployment we're talking here, everyone will take a hit.



Gee do you really think we'll lose 40% of the population if they ban sex? I doubt it
Colette Meiji
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06-02-2007 18:33
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Gee do you really think we'll lose 40% of the population if they ban sex? I doubt it


Wed lose more.

Besides it wouldnt take losing 40% to SUCK 40% of the money spent on this economy out.
Chris Norse
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06-02-2007 18:43
From: Brenda Connolly
What do you sell by the way?


She has a land sales business.
Brendan Meili
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06-02-2007 18:45
Your Second Life would, because other area's are more populated now due to the lack of sex. This could mean a higher rate of grieving, economy changes and massive sim closedowns.

It's very relevant,...
Colette Meiji
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06-02-2007 18:50
From: Chris Norse
She has a land sales business.


hehe, yeah, outlawing playing house wouldnt hurt land sales AT ALL. :rolleyes:
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 18:53
From: Chris Norse
She has a land sales business.

Thank You.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 18:54
From: Brendan Meili
Your Second Life would, because other area's are more populated now due to the lack of sex. This could mean a higher rate of grieving, economy changes and massive sim closedowns.

It's very relevant,...

Plus people would be frustrated from lack of sex..it could be chaos..dogs and cats sleeping together...Mass hysteria
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Cristalle Karami
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06-02-2007 21:14
Are you kidding me? The only reason to buy a home in SL is to do what comes naturally in private. Everything else you can do without owning land. That would most definitely hurt the real estate market, because there isn't enough creativity and talent to fill up as many sims as are out there. What's the point? I think the point is revealing the abject stupidity of trying to stop human nature.
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