ALL ALTS listed in your profile

I am quite sure the idea of a body to regulate how companies use data in their posession is not an entirely British idea...

My alts do not effect you in any way, and the knowledge in no way benefits you.

Your point?

Reitsuki, reread the thread. It DOES benefit and affect us.

"Rebel" attitude? REBEL?

Pffffft. 50 years ago it was called "normal".

And no, you don't own me, I don't own you, and LL doesn't own either of us. I have no clue how you managed to get to that conclusion.

Linden Labs know where my alts are and if I grief with them tomorrow they'll get me. That I accept. If they decide that every random Joe should know these details too then my time with Second Life is over. That's not negotiable.

No, it doesn't. My alts do not effect you, and knowing who they are would not benefit you.

Come again, Reitsuki?

Lance this is the same arguement you are using in the private sim thread.....when you start paying for peoples alts and private sims then you can know ......but seeing as you don't you have no business knowing anyone elses business.

LL knows who is who and it is their job not yours to find information out.

My alt is "Troy Hanks". My RL husband is "David Fate". Next topic please.

You're right, the police are there in person for that.


No, they really can't. Nor would they have to. But go ahead - you finish the argument for me, since apparently you have your own idea of what I was going to say.

No line of that applies to me, Lance.

I'm not a griefer, sorry.

So I say again.

Knowning who my alts are in no way affects or benefits you.

I second this opinion...

Hank, HOW COULD YOU?

There's a perfectly legitimate reason to keep the information private.. It's no one else's business. If I want to sign on an alt and build in peace without being messaged, or tracked down, or even letting people know I'm online, what business is it of anyone else's?

Why do you need to know who my alts are?

However, since we seem to be in a "Go dredge up the first posts" mood, here is my viewpoint, copied from early on in this thread:

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It boils down to this:

Yes, alts are abused. Perhaps massivly.

However, there are legitimate uses for alts, regardless of if you see them or not, some of which would be harmed by your proposed changes.

Therefor I, and apparently most others, refuse to surrender our right to use alts as we feel we need to just because some other asshats abuse the right. It's not that "everybody wants griefers to be able to hide behind their alts", it's just that we refuse to be punished along with them when we have done nothing wrong.
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Your reasons for wanting to know who alt and secondary accounts are are not good enough. Obviously LL agrees, because you don't know.

If you're worried about doing business with the same scammers under different accounts, get a better business model and stop trying to blame the rest of us for your business failures.

LL has been wrong in the past, and I believe they're wrong in this case as well.


That's just it, I'd like to get a better business model, but anyway.

This thread is now in summer reruns, so I'll be leaving until it's time for the new fall season again.

there are many perfectly legitimate reasons for having alt characters, including ust wanting to play two different characters intwo different ways. I play alts and they do not interact in the same circles. It would spoil the game for me for someone i didn't intend to know my alt and I are the same person. That does impinge on my right as a dual account holder to play two accounts separatesly.

i disagree with this on several counts, which i won't bother to go into as they have been covered over and over already by other people.

however, i think that should a person be found by ll to have seriously griefed someone or otherwise seriously violated the tos or cs that their veil of anonymity should be lifted. and in that case their alts should then crosslist.

but from a practical business standpoint that may be difficult.

This might have been mentioned but ...

If using alt. credit cards and changing IP addresses currently thwarts LL efforts to ban alts ...

How do you propose they determine the names of alts to display on objects?

I dont think you really thought this all the way through.

so, what if I decide to purchase an account as a gift for my friend/roommate/girlfriend/wife/significant-other to the game... he/she plays on a seperate PC that accesses the net through a router, thereby giving us the same IP#... even if I never log onto that account, would it be considered an ALT of mine?

As one who works in the gaming industry, it's not fair to the players to have all their alts linked to each other in any way that other regular players can see... as many many clear thinking people have said here, the comany has the ability to know which accounts are owned by the same people and they, and ONLY THEY have the right to know this and use it for punishment purposes...

another problem with linking all alts with one another is the fact it gives the people who do harass others the ability to harass them on their alts as well...

(sorry if anyone has said any of this... I read the first page and skimmed through the rest)

I'm a scripter. I use my alt to get work done or to have some quiet enjoyment of SL.

Improve IM services or drop them entirely and we'll make a better solution in-world.

Ban/suspend/warn the alt abusers (griefers).

NEVER remove my only hope of peace and quiet. Walk a mile in my shoes.

Wow.

Maybe I should log an alt to reply.

Then none of of would know it was me.

Hey, it's just 9.95.

Maybe I'll use my scripting ability to f' you over.

And remain anonymous.

Cuz you know, that's the public sentiment.

But I wouldn't do that. Cuz you know, I'm ME.

And you can look in my profile, and see it.

Hmm.

I am eating Kung Poa noodles. No meat.

Feel free! Was there a point to this, other than to sound like you were throwing your toys out the pram cuz the majority dont agree with you? Cuz I for one really, really don't care who you post as. Or play as. Or even grief as if you want to be that much of an asshole.

I really can't understand people who think that just because there are a few people who grief using alts, you think that everyone should be punished with full disclosure. Many people have given you perfectly legitimate reasons why this shouldn't happen. Many people have questioned how you can possibly tell who an alt is to even implement this. But that's ok, you have to ignore them to keep blindly banging the same drum.

Face it. LL are NOT going to implement this suggestion for you or anyone else. Fortunately.