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or this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP1w5Hl8D0E let's hope blue mars delivers on its promises.



I've seen it, I'm still composing my response.. well done

I don't have the time today to read the all the added posts. But I feel in a horribly obsessive way that i should respond to this. So much is said about OL that is just opinion. The above quote is completely untrue.

There are adult clubs in OL and a new one is on the mainland. I was in OL the other day and an avie had on a t-shirt with a big bold F*CK on it only his t-shirt had the correct letter where I've placed an astrik. Maybe that in itself is no big thing but it was noticeable because of all the talk of clamping down on that here.

Everyone is saying what you can't do "there" but it appears you may be facing some things you can't do here soon, AND (I wish we could have italics here) since nothing specific seems to becoming from the Lindens we have no idea what else is planned either.

BTW I've experienced a lot of trouble viewing, editing and/or posting to this discussion. I wonder if others might have had that happen too and just given up trying to post-sure go ahead and use the tinfoil hat dismissive-I like it.

I don't want to argue with any of you really-and it's very frustrating to see what's taking place and the rather impotent response.

Hung out...or hung up?

This morning I submitted an application for an SL6B exhibit that, if approved, will help visitors learn how to get qualified for Adult content and how to set their viewers for different maturity ratings of land access and Search results.

Of course I won't know until June 1 whether or not the application is approved. It may be a topic too sensitive for a birthday party (and might be a little *too* germane to the "Future of Virtual Worlds" theme); they may not even believe my assurance that the exhibit will be strictly instructional, not taking a position on the policy itself.

Even if they don't approve it, I think there's a need for something like this, in-world, so I'm going to build it anyway, and drop it on an otherwise unused parcel next to the Forum Cartel Hangout. So now I'm thinking more seriously about what this thing should be and how it should work, and looking for help with the following:

Brainstorming. Any suggestions? I'll eventually post what I already have in mind for this, but before I contaminate everybody's brains, I'd greatly appreciate any ideas for making this thing as informative and fun as possible.

Translation. I have command of at most one language, and that's on a good day. As much as the exhibit should be interactive and fun, it's going to need some text to describe what attendees need to do to get verified. So, to maximize the reach, it will need multilingual text content. (Also, a question for scripters of multilingual apps: is llGetAgentLanguage() worth using, or do too many people have the "Share language with objects" preference disabled, or choose a different language anyway?)

Content specifics. Most of the details can be gleaned from LL's own KB content, release notes, and the viewer behavior itself, but some things aren't so clear. At the moment, my deepest bafflement is how to get an answer to this question: Basic members with Payment Info On File according to their account page but not in-world need to get Support to fix that; what should we tell them about how they can go about filing that Support ticket? This seems to be a pretty common problem, and it seems everybody who has tried so far has gotten from Support the instructions for manual *age* verification--as used for disproving spurious ARs accusing a resident of being underage--which must be about the worst possible course of action both for the resident and for Support, who would have to process all that material if it were actually sent. So, can anyone help with that? (Blondin?)

Qie, As far as I know, the best way to clear up a "Payment info on file" that shows on the website but does not show in-world is to buy $2.50 USD worth of L$ with that account. It wil immediately then show up as "Payment Info Used", both in-world and on the website.

If they approve this then I will be extremely surprised.

i don't have any ideas on designing it but I can certainly usability test it and suggest improvements when it's built.

Wynochee,

did Jack Linden make good on his promise to follow up on why Scarlett Linden returned your posters without explanation?

Whilst of course I'm prepared to believe that it was just "overenthusiastic" behaviour on the part of a Linden employee, I would hate to think that LL condones this kind of behaviour. Which of course is what they're doing if they don't adequately address this.

I like the idea, and would love to help if I can. And I also have several places to host it once it's done, if that's okay.

Sadly, my creative ideas on informing people are limited to drawing up detailed diagrams, which probably isn't entertaining nor creative. And I'm not too clear on some of the specifics of how either.

We, means me and friend, have silence in the wood, like an austrian proverb says..., no answers, IMs unanswered, notecard unanswered since 24 hours, e-mail unanswered, yesterdays talk unanswered, etc. -so, nothing new under the sun.

I shrug and build my new home further. LL gives a tragic and miserable picture of itself with such actions. They gave another self-portrait with this.

But how they look we know since long...

ok. well Jack said at the end he'd follow it up so I would have thought that he would have got back to you by now. He's had almost 24 hours.

I've taken the liberty of sending your explanation and the posters out to a couple of group mods so I'm hoping that they'll start distributing the card and the so called offending posters to their groups.

If anyone would like a copy of it to distribute, drop me a line and I'll send it over. If LL are condoning censorship of legitimate customer protest then obviously this needs to be highlighted.

KNock yourself out- I didn't write it, I just "Carlin-ed" it

^V^

Is there any clear advice for people who want to move but will not be allowed a free swap? Will it cost a lot of money for us? Will we even be allowed to move?

K

You'll have to fight it out with the sharks in the Land Auctions.

It depends. If paranoid conspiracy theorists like myself are right then yes, it will cost you a bundle - probably 50x what you can sell your current land for. And will be far, far laggier than anywhere you might be now.

FIFTY TIMES ?!?!?!??!?!!

I hope u are simply scaremongering

K

PS also why would it be more lag?

check out the current prices for bay city and then add a factor because it's going to be prized adult land.

mainland is down to around 3L/m but of course will drop further when the approx 250 sims (5% of the current mainland) go on the market from those who have moved.

Except they won't advertise it for that- My guess is that they are cleaning up the grid so they can use it as a showroom for the BIAB product. On the theory that people won't buy a stereo if the "test" is hearing something obscene coming out of it.

"See the guy raining cocks all over the welcome area? Wouldn't you like to have this platform for *your* virtual business meetings?"


I guess I see the point, but they're still going about it bass-ackwards. They need an All "G" rated area that has limited access, but where everyone starts, so it's always full of shiny happy people without genitals. It wouldn't hurt to improve the baseline AV choices so that they look more realistic/have better textures- You want to impress a customer, you show they what they want, yes, but they'll never be able to show them a mainland that's sellable.

Speaking of sellable mainland- anyone else think "land fraud" when they read the announcement that they would be auctioning off 30 mainland regions over the next couple months? Starting bid- $750 US. Just it time for the value of the land to crater, after everyone who wants a bit of nudity in their SL moves away, and those who stay wreck all their cool builds for fear that they might get AR'd for breaking rules that they don't understand.


And Speaking of the rules, I would be a lot happier about them is someone *besides* blondin said "We're not changing the "PG" defintions" and "As long as it's private, not business, you don't have to worry about getting AR's filed on you by prudish neighbors".

Except for one comment by Cyn at the press conference, Blondin is the only public voice saying these things, and the rest of LL staff is ignoring his statements when making their own.

Starting to feel a little like Han Solo and Lando Calrissian at Bespin Cloud-mine "I've got a bad feeling about this" and "This deal just keeps getting worse"

^V^

On second thoughts this might not be so bad cost wise: my present land is on mature which will probably become worthless after this change so i will simply abandon it. By my calc
50 times zero is zero so if it worked that way id be happy ('cept for the lag lol)

K

Well, YoYoDyne had a *plan*. It was a screwy one, executed by incompetents, but it actually *would* have worked if it hadn't been for BB and the Black 'lectroids from Planet 10 by way of the 8th dimension.

LL's plan *won't* work. it won't give them what they want, and will crash what they have. It's corporate *suicide*.

Even YoyoDyne wasn't *that* stupid.

^V^

Nobody actually _knows_ yet but I don't think 50x will be unheard of. It will really, really depend on how well LL manages the situation so..

And, I said how much you "can" sell it for so no-fair abandoning it..

Because adult places are popular places.. The current mainland is about 5000 regions. Ursula will be under 500. Think: population density.

edit: and yes, these issues were brought to LLs attention. The answers were, closely paraphrasing here:
- land speculation is not illegal
- ursula regions will run on class 5 servers

And that was it. Issues resolved.

Just a quick comment- I hope that they approve your exhibit idea, but I wouldn't hold my breath..
and Taking a look at "The future of virtual worlds" without including virtual sex is like taking a look at the future of the earth's environment without including Oxygen- IT's barely possible, but *awfully* damned unlikely.

^V^

My guess: a lot more than 5 per cent will want to move to Ursula. Certainly i want, and i don't run a business. From what i read there is no way my private and personal activities come anywhere close to triggering a free move. So therefore i will have to pay.

Are there loads of other people in my position? Or am i the weird one?

I hope lots of others will be clamoring to move otherwise i will start to feel i *am* the weird one.

K

Look around the mainland and note the ratio of mature to PG regions that LL has setup. These were (probably) setup the way they are over the years due to what LL saw in terms of supply/demand.

I think it's safe to say that you are not even close to being alone...

I have a full sim, mainland, that will have to be moved...(I own an escort agency) currently i have 8 rental lots on my mainland sim... not all will be moving when we go, so there will be some residential lots available, at a reasonable price.. once we get there

~Brie

I am in exactly the same situation, I guess we are the 2-4%

bt