RC Questions

If they plan to only open up 50-70 regions initially (as stated by Jack himself), and the *LOWEST* of their figures is accurate, the 2% (of "2-4%" fame), then 100 regions of mainland are going to have to be squeezed into 50-70 regions. OK, that's not possible, so they will have to open up at LEAST 100 regions to accommodate it. Even still, that 2% is spread out (i.e., diluted) over FIVE THOUSAND regions. All the non-adult content parcels and builds will not be there to dilute it, so all that adult content will be HIGHLY concentrated in those regions.

As such, to me anyway, the math says they *HAVE* to do that, if they are proceeding with the plan on the table.



You know what they say about "taking offense", right?

So far ....but as I watched word lists being pulled and other things happening with only "we are working on it" and "maybes" anything can change in a heartbeat

the one thing that really gets me about all of this is that people are making an assumption on the verification process that this will protect them.

A lot of those same people seem to be seeing avs fucking like rabbits wherever they look..

Why is it that I don't have the same attitude to sl that they do? I never see anything untoward, well unless I'm at a linden welcome area.. I rarely even see avs doing the naughty in my shop.. usually I just find them kissing (awww) doesn't stop me from trying to embarrass them when I find them *grins*

I just had a quick nip over to xsl to see if the sharks were still circling and found a post a couple under my last one in that thread that encapsulates the position I outlined in the first couple of paragraphs..

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that fighting for the greater good is a thankless task (well. there's a surprise - not) and now it's just a matter of getting what we can out of LL to make the world at least bearable for us. The herd will just swill along behind secure in the knowledge that everything is ok in the world..

For me, I want as many people as possible in Ursula. If you've ever seen red light districts in any city (even Amsterdam, which I admit is almost civillised) they're not well balanced relaxing places. I want what I have on the mainland now there. I want to see art and buy couches and trees and houses. I don't want to have the 24/7 hormonal bods floating around constantly with not a decent conversation in sight.. (have you ever been into the red light centre?.. ugh my shoelace has better conversation and the set up is seriously dull).

I want Ursula to be the place where everything can flourish and it can't be that if it's just the sex trade. We need residents and variety.

and of course I want to make sure I'm adequately supported and recompensed during the transition. If LL want to clean up the grid then they have to make it worth my while to help them.

Thing is..

"It will all be such a wonderful and refreshing change, and flowers will grow on Ursula, IF they don't screw it up." (paraphrased)

and

"So far, this has been severely lacking." (understated)

are statements at odds with one another, and the core reason why we are prognosticating "doom and gloom".

Yeah, sure, it COULD be a wonderful thing. It really COULD be. However, there is no evidence that LL is either WILLING or CAPABLE of making that "wonderful thing" happen, since their efforts are (and have been for years now) proving daily to be "severely lacking", with little to no hope of redemption.

They aren't listening. The train continues to barrel down the tracks at full speed. They aren't stopping to think "gee, are we really on the RIGHT track? A whole lot of folks back there in the passenger cars are clamoring that we're going the wrong way; some are already jumping off".

I think everyone here knows that after this initial FREE land swap...there wont be anymore freebies...and after they start auctioning the land when they cut the free swap off, land will soar skyhigh.......most wont want to waste their hard earned RL dollars for a game at those prices!
So they either follow big brothers rules or leave SL.
And I truly believe that SL thinks they will only have to swap 2 to 4%...and.....I believe they will stick to their guns and find some excuse to say why one is eligible and another with nearly the same content isn't..in other words it will BE only 2 to 4 % in the end...they have plans for those remaining sims=MONEY

Nope. Some people will be exiled there against their wills; that is, they will be forced to undergo the disruption of relocating their business -- which may well involve rebuilding to fit a new terrain map -- plus the various inconveniences caused by things like group-owned objects where the original owner doesn't come into SL any more, plus having to change lots of land marks and so on.

Other people want to go there, not because they want to move but because they feel they need do because they don't want to run the risks inherent in staying on in a parcel that's effectively been downgraded from Mature to something more like our British movie classification of "12A" (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/) and getting suspended if someone finds their content too racy.

And still more people will want to go there in the future because that's the only place they can open clubs, run businesses or live the sort of SL lifestyle they want.

Since lots of people are going to have to move -- not because they want to admire Ursula's noted snowscapes but because they either don't, or don't feel they have, much choice -- land prices are likely to rise because of supply and demand.

OK, in a real-world economy, investors might take a look at land prices in Pornotopia and the new, ethically-cleansed, mainland and decide to enter a non-contentious business because that's cheaper, and, one way or another, the invisible hand of the market would sort things out, but SL doesn't work that way. We make and sell stuff we like, by and large, rather than approaching it in a manner of which Adam Smith might approve.

The 50-70 set off alarm bells for me too.. I'm quite prepared to believe - particularly now they're going to prune that naught word list - that they're going to be very strict on who gets the freebie and the rest of the 250 will be sold at auction. The last thing they want is everyone on a mature parcel putting their hand up for a swap, and i think that's a lot of the reason on the backdown on the list.

They may *wish* to have all those smutty words removed, because they know they'll be able to sanitise it properly, but they don't want the associated cost that goes with it. It's more sensible to give the land to the token few and make everyone else pay.

That's completely unacceptable.

I think Meade meant that a class 6 would be able to deal with the higher load than a class 5 would. A class 5 isn't a supercomputer by any measure...


Not sure I buy that but I don't have numbers to back it up. I'd guess that what they really did with the intro of class 5 is push back the line where the sim starts thrashing. Just doubling the RAM, like they did between class 4 and 5, might help a lot there..


MOOT!!


Actually, I heard Andrew talking about class 6 hardware last summer/fall.. They ARE in the lab.. I pestered him but he had no details. /me guesses it's mostly tweaks instead of something like a change from FSB to QPI..

But totally believeable.

I just looked at JIRA for I think the 2nd time ever and voted. I have to lie down now, my head hurts.

This could actually backfire in their faces...if people don't get the swap some may not go to Ursula at all and will seek what they need from a friend who knows a friend who just happens to create the content they are looking for...I see the possiblity of a huge underground network later on...so it's possible that the swapped people may be in trouble in the end concerning sales...I for one...IF I don't get the swap will never set foot in Ursula...I will just make all my land totally private and I will call the friend of a friend to get what I need
P.S. nothing personal to those who get to move .....just the way it is

You're in for a big surprise, limited availability and people needing said land will send prices through the roof.

thank you.

/me passes the asprin and the cold compress

I still am looking forward to seeing the waiting disaster of all those who will need to move but don't even know it. Those who haven't received the trickle down, or even better, those new arrivals who are likely buying mature land as we speak. Kingdong and Company are gladly taking their money and not telling them what is in store for them. My tinfoil dreams can envision people being busted for the nasy, evicted, land claimed and resold to the Mickey Mouse Brigade when they start arriving.

Thorn?...now get back to work...hubba

Can I have some scotch to wash those down with?.......where are you putting that compress..I said my head hurts...........

Yeah, but there is no evidence to support the notion that a class 6 would be able to deal with *THIS* higher load. Incremental differences in server performance metrics are not going to keep up with what amounts to content multiplication.

My neighbor has an escort club that will have to move. When she has one of her events, we can tell the sim is lagging, sometimes lagging pretty badly, and the sim isn't even full, avatar-wise. Being a Mainland region, it is on a "class 5" server, so if we pack in another 1-4 more of her clubs (she only has about 1/10th of the region), I GUARANTEE you that even the best of whatever is on the market right now will grind down badly.



Back when the Isle regions were a mix of class 4/5 servers, we tested various script, physics, and content loads, and found it to be fairly accurate. The difference wasn't that great, and it was still fairly trivial to load it down to the point of being considered "unusable".



"Good lady, your point does not speak to the issue, and is, thus, mute."

Unconventional, I know, but I *AM* a Dragon, so....



They are always talking about "new hardware", and are likely always testing new stuff out all the time in their REAL "Lab". However, there is nothing yet which has been (or will be for the foreseeable future) designated into their "production class".

Yes, "captive audiences" are profiteers' wet dreams.

That is possible.

It is also possible that an adult continent of 200+ sims, where everyone is claiming they are only going to give away 70, will end up having all sorts of available land, which will keep the price low.

OMG throw me to the forum lions why don't you? lol.

Getcher butt over to the threads and post too.

Hey this blog is running a poll on how people feel about the Adult content question.

I think the votes cast so far are illuminating.
http://dwellonit.blogspot.com/2009/05/poll-adult-content-both-sides-of.html

go vote.

Possible? Anything is possible.

Like: The Tooth Fairy popping in one night and giving me $1000 for my bad tooth. It's possible.

Probable is another matter.

Given the nature of the plan, and the way they have stated they are planning on implementing it, it is not probable that prices will be kept "low". We asked specific questions about this, and the answers he gave indicate that "high prices" aren't a problem for them.

So, while the scenario where prices are "kept low" is possible, and may even be more probable than the tooth fairy example above, that still isn't saying much.

Voted now i'm off to work

Yes, for the better or for the worse.

The problem with that poll is that it is like a Slashdot poll.. no accountability. As such, I think the standard Slashdot disclaimer should apply:

"This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane."