RC Questions

I agree that the current definition given to us that allows sex and sex toys in private on mainland but not on public hardly makes sense in terms of predictability of people's experience, but I am happy to don't have to move my personal home to Ursula in addition of already half my business. Forbidding Sex and Sex-related material in all mature Mainland including private homes would have mean that 90% of the mainland would have had to move to Ursula and they seems to have keep enough reason to not push their flawed plans that far...

There will be without doubts official definitions of what is allowed or not in Mature places, they have to as otherwise they won't have a basis to punish those who don't respect them. From what I get, those definitions may even get added to the TOS.

Let's hope that the additional delays they are taking to publish those definitions means they are realizing all the problems that will spring from those changes and starting to soften their stances a little so that adult people's life are moderately disturbed and witch-hunts are avoided.

What worries me more if that one Linden in Oatmeal 15 explicitely stated that "anything goes" in adult places, including griefing and hate speech if you judge from his lack of reaction to some griefings and TOS Violations committed under his eyes when he said that.

LL are lucky that there isn't yet another adult-friendly virtual world ready outside here whose technical possibilities are equivalent to SL's one, as their "business decision" on adult content would have then caused a massive exodus that would have simply killed their platform. But this betrayal of the trust of the adult communauties who did so much to build a freedom Utopia in here won't be forgotten and this may happen anyway the day that alternative solution gets on the market.

It wouldn't work, if the mature parcel in mainland with the Adult Stores is in public access to everyone, it will be considered public and thus illegal. The rule seems to be "private only" AND "not advertised". I am unsure if the fact it has a "commercial aspect" is taken into account or not, but I think not at the current state of their reflections. Good question to Ask Blondin and Jack btw, I add it to my list...

Maybe it can work if access to that mainland parcel is restricted only to a private group, for example the client group you have for your business, but from the talks I had with Blondin it seems a private group is no more private once it reach a certain size... Quite arbitrary, don't you think ?

That's one of the reasons why I wait the precises rules on what is "public" or "private" with a lot of impatience, because they are key to know what is still possible or not when you want to make your activities abide by the rules.

This is a staged implementation according to cyn. businesses are the first step. I firmly believe the the current kb6010 is what we'll have at the end of this. So it's quite possibly move the businesses, move the residents and then change the rules so only Aristotle verification gets you in.

Why do I think this? Because they had a third party draft 6010 and it was agreed by LL before being published. As you saw with SL6B, they really do want to have that degree of cleanliness on the grid.

Whether non business residents will be offered a swap or will be just told they have to clean up or pay extortionate prices for land on ursula is the subject for discussion when phase 2 happens.

It's going to be a long, turbulent 6 months.

No surprise when the Lindens last night said mostly the opposite of that (they thought you would need to put 'those words' in the land description for some reason). Or that they were hesitant about saying if strip clubs were ok or not.

That would be just *too* hilarious if it were the result.

Be sure to check in at the SLapt.me wiki as well

We will not go back to a private estate unless they peg the price at the mainland price of 195USD for me as we got rid of our islands after the OS fiasco and went back to just 1 mainland sim holding so I am not going to go back to 295USD a month thats for sure.

I hope others follow the lead there with us

A slightly different implication to what I read on the previous, locked, thread. But only slightly different, and less than convincing!

I'm only going by the latest Jack office hours transcript, where he seems to bang on about "content" and "commercial" with regards to land swaps, where it appears (almost) anything goes on mature land so long as there's no money being made from it.



This is the crux of the matter for me. A distinct lack of respect for resiedents by *not* getting the hell on with clear definitions after promising them, and a complete lack of ability of residents to have a clue what impact this will all have until said definitions are released. It could be only sellers of smut have to move, ridiculing the notion this is "to make for a more predictable experience" as buyers of such material can use them on mature land. It may be a party becomes a club if there's >x attending, maybe, just maybe, the definitions *will* only state that the most extreme content needs moving as originally claimed, and that extreme will mean truly extreme, and not just what may shock Mary Whitehouse on a sensitive day.

I don't like many of the answers and statements made so far by LL on this, and find their handling of it catastrophic. Two years of grid walking? Many months of planning, and faki... sorry, gathering opinions that require this shift? Thousands of hours since the announcment "discussing" with residents? And what is there to show for it? Mixed messages, residents mushroomed, and a feel of chaos. I'm struggling to work out if they truly are that incomeptent, or if this lack of cummincation and creation of panic is part of their plot. Either way, it doesn't exactly make you want to fall on your bank account and keep handing over the cash, does it..

LOL I have just said to someone that we will cut some of our new sim for just such things if I can build into the overall design of the new sim

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