RC Questions

You should be upset.

Assuming he's one of the QA team then he's actually one of the few people who should know the policy as he's been testing the software that will support the implementation.

I assume as soon as people started invading the sim warnings/failures started which is why he ended up there. As for his behaviour towards the rest, it fits in perfectly with the LL corporate behaviour where if it doesn't relate directly to you then ignore it. The sign wasn't on the test land so in his limited mind he didn't have to do anything.

lots of assumptions here I know, but they're all based on having to get up close and personal with IT bods trying to get them to do the job they're paid to for far too many years.

Not Necessarily. I have some experience else where, they don't always tell testers WT* the actual plan is.

I am sure most of the staff is just about as ignorant as we are.


And no I will not say what experience & where.
I do not want it connected with SL in any way
Just suffice it to say "Online Staff" in two places.

they can't test the software if they don't know what the expected results are.. that's the bottom line. In agile environments usually the only documentation produced is by the test team as they create their tests - sad but true.

Perhaps I should have said "practical application of the policy via the software" because that's what we're talking about here.

edited to be a bit more pedantic. But I really don't want to go into a dissertation into the affect and risks agile methodologies have on software development. I'm only talking about agile here rather than any of the other methodologies. I've also excluded business practices as that's another doorstopper of a dissertation.

Somehow I doubt very much they have told most of the staff much more then we have been told. Unfortunately.

I may be wrong however. But I have seen it done that way.

Linden Labs, and those of us who use Second Life are both human beings, so the logical assumption is they will react like humans.

We know *something* prompted them to make this new policy, even if we don't know exactly what. We also know that the masses of us were not consulted during the many months this was in work. So whatever motivated them , and put them on this course, was not deflected by our opinions.

So to change their plans, we have to let them know what we don't like, and what we want, and to tell as many people as possible. The more people that ask for changes, the more likely they are to happen.

Whatever motivated them, though, will not go away just cause we don't want to change. So I don't think its possible for them to abandon all changes. The best I can expect is to modify the details of what they do.

Example: The 1.23RC gives an unhelpful error popup when you search for a filtered word. We should try to get them to give a message like "you are searching for adult content, would you like to verify your account to access this?", and a yes click opens the verification web page with explanation and instructions.
Same for teleports to an adult region.

On our side, we will never react en-masse to anything. We are all individuals. There is room for informational kiosks like you are developing, and subversive independant wikis, and underground clubs, and a hundred other things I have not thought of, and more telling, the Lindens have not thought of.

Remember, the 300 Linden employees works out to an average of 75 of them (40 hour work week/168 hours per week), and there are 1000 times as many of *us* in SL on average. We have the advantage of numbers, brain power, and creativity.

In all ways, SL is no different than RL is it? All the same perriness, back dooring and general bullshit that has made RL the wonderful place it is. All of Phgil's lofty ideals have been flushed down the toilet and LL has shown that they are like any government, full of the same lairs,thieves, and general evildoers. SL is the same shit sandwich RL is. It just cmes doen to how big of a bite you are willing to take.

Well if someone posts on an external forum such as the SLapt.me wiki then LL cannot really do anything about it they are only concerned with people posting in the official forums. If I have any conversations with any Linden regarding these changes and I feel its of pertinent interest to everyone I would not hesitate posting the chat log, open chat or IM, but thats just me

It's patently obvious that LL don't have a communications model nor do they acknowledge the concept of stakeholders. Hence the chaos and appearance of amateurism.

It's not going to change because they apparently don't perceive a business benefit in looking professional to the customers who actually pay their bills, rather than those that generate good business pr.

That unfortunately is the crux of the issue with this and all their other policy changes. We wouldn't have 10% of this hysteria and childish behaviour we're seeing from those who know if they'd managed this properly.

I must say that a lot of the so called protesters appear more to be the trolls and griefers that infest the grid, rather than people who either are affected or are not happy with the changes proposed.

Unfortunately hijacking by these people is a fact of life, particularly as school holidays are nearing (have they started already? the percentage of trolls contacting me in my shopkeeper capacity seems to have increased down the last week or so).

The one thing we shouldn't be doing is giving them tacit support because they appear to be on "our side". Trolls are trolls and are not going to do us any good in our dealings with LL over this.

Are they trolls or 5th Column Thugs, sent in to infiltrate and destroy the movement from within. I say we catch one. I bet Lord can make him talk.

Ann OToole posted this over there. OMG.

"Unhelpful"... That is the kindest way of putting it. Blatantly lying and misleading is more accurate, since the wording of the dialog that you get when you search for a banned Adult word without having adult search checked implies that what you searched for is *not allowed at all* under the Community Standards. It gives no indication whatsoever that by merely checking the box to allow an adult search, there would be *NOTHING* contrary to the TOS or Community standards relating to that search term.

lol she's been reading Prok. That came down on the twitter feed a little while ago.

here's the original.

http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/05/linden-crystal-ball.html


although I think she's being way to kind to Jack. He should have been sacked after the openspace fiasco. The errors made in the cost calculations were so basic as to be mindboggling and certainly demonstrate a complete lack of monitoring and quality assurance.

and for those of you who have an interest in opensim, this also has just come down on the twitter feed:

http://www.adamfrisby.com/blog/2009/05/os-under-the-surface-may-2009/

It's still focussed on the technical rather than the consumer but it's looking good.

if you're interested in the feed that most of this comes down on, there's a twitter plugin for firefox called twitterfox (there's a surprise) and the best source of sl info comes from a guy called Mal Burns (he's the one who did the replay of the press conference earlier this month for those of you who remember)
http://twitter.com/malburns

I would hope not- but I wouldn't worry too much about it. I would say that about the worst you can expect would be to get caught by the edges of a more general protest at SL6B. You aren't *promoting* it- you're *explaining* it.



I'd say that that your instincts are good- Not only for the reasons you state, but also because the more people know, the more people have the *chance* to express their opinion. Part of LL's plan is to keep this as quitet as possible until it can be presented as a whole package- and too late to change anything. Saying that they want to wait until things are finalized is simply another way to say that they want to wait until it's too late to do anything about it.



Again, the more who know about this, and the more people understand it, the less they generally like it. spreading the word serves both causes- it helps people batten down the hatches, and it also gives them time to voice their objections to the plan.

They do in my state.

well, it's pretty obvious that *some* lindens won't weep for any of us who get this treatment.

Am I the only one who has a hard time thinking of people who spell the way that poster is spelled and use all that "encyclopedia dramatica" lingo as being over the age of 18? the only time I ever see crap like that is tech forums from people who sound like they are 13, tops. they all know "kung fu" and can kick anybody's ass, and they are all master hackers or something. it's a pretty unique spelling, "moar" and all the text-typing around it.

frankly, my guess is that the ones making this kind of noise are the ones who are under 18. note that they refer to the complainers as "pre-teens" sounds like a 15 year-old to me.

Next they'll be saying we're all "butthurt" or something.

^V^

I totally agree there

Did you see I archived and uploaded pdf's of all the Adult content threads

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Archived_SL_Forum_Threads

LOL I bet that would be the easy part. I say its the school kids as they are on holiday here and in the UK

Regarding this image

http://www.adric.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/3rdside.jpg

From Ryanna's post about the fence and Oskar Linden. She says he said that anything goes in adult land. Well, I was just at Oatmeal 15 (echos of Stalag 17), and where that sign is, and the giant FAG blocks are...that section is *mature* not adult.

Dur.

Oskar Linden seemed pretty chummy with the guy who made the sign. I don't believe it would have made a difference which region it was in.

I have applied for the position of Director of Customer Relations

OMG really??? whatever you do, don't eat or drink anything they give you.

Some kind person emailed me the chat and I have put it up here for people to read:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Comments_from_other_Linden_Staff

I was astounded at the lack of knowledge coming from a Linden staff member with comments such as:

"the effects of this whole thing are really really minor. people are blowing it out of proportion"

and

"the 15% who want to perform sexual acts in front of the 85% who don't want to see that?"

and when asked about the 15% figure

"I have a magic bag of stats"

Fortunately they are just average people with average rl-names, some Mr. and Mrs. Doe, stucking in average rl-concepts of life, feeling the average hubris like all average people which have too much power for exactly no reasons, while talking average blabla about things they don't understand.

Beside this and all we know about them, no one want to perform so called sexual acts in front of 85% of the customers, because any sort of performance in SL is only possible in front of 40 - 100 spectators or consensual participators, which often need to go through search and to decide something and to teleport to a specific location where maybe something is to see, but mostly not, because of time-zones and whatnotall.

There was along 6 years no drama and if it would be now and suddenly a drama then we showed LL some smart and fair solutions. The best of them are based on free choice options and an entry statement which makes definitely clear that SL is only designed for 18+ people.

But that would be service.

But the 15% is higher then 2 - 4%
And he is only counting the people who want to do it in front of a captive audience.


Well I guess if you can squeeze 15% in to 4% or less there is room for few more too!




Teehee