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Actually, for Linden text, you do not need permission. That type of text is not protected under the ToS as it is for the residents. So in otherwords, feel free to post the text.

I thought about it, but it seemed pointless.

That is just so LL that it's beautiful

It might be a deliberate decision on LL's part- Social networking sites have been attracting a lot of negatrive attention of late, (craigslist killer, Myspace suicides) and yet have been getting explosive growth, and government attention. In attempting to distance themselves from that sort of thing, LL may have decided to opt for a "we're a business app that people are misusing" defense. or, failing that, at least a "we're trying to change all that" defense.

maybe they are trying to dodge a bullet that has nothing to do with adult content- maybe the issue is trying to actually become an all-business platform where "civilians" only go to shop- which might de-fuse government interest into their currency market and speculation issues. (something that the USG has been interested in for a while, and was a contributing factor in both the gambling and banking issues).

just a thought

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or an outright sale to facebook, myspace, twitter, yahoo, google, or some other likely suspect.

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according to blondin, you *don't* have to be verified to get onto mature land, or even own and use or purchase "adult content". Just to advertise it in search, or buy it from people who do.

but people *are* being moved- especially the unverified ones who live on land that will be designated as adult.

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The fence has been replaced by flower pots

Holy cow. Once this is all over, you should get a special Ursula Medal of Valor for dealing with that bunch over there.

The scary part is that just those sorts of hearts and minds may be the ones we have to win over.

A politically incorrect aside: I really, really miss Robin. It's not that she would fix everything, but at least we could talk to her and she would *understand* what we were saying, and seemed to genuinely care about not taking the business headlong over a cliff. This new lot, it's difficult to detect any actual brain function at all.

unverified people will "be moved" from any mature parcels they own that will be flagged adult.

Another point- "public sex" isn't prohibited on Mature land. *advertising or promoting* public sex is. you can still throw an invitation-only orgy on your mature front lawn if you like. you just can't advertise or sell tickets, mention that sort of thing in your land description, or had any kind of advertised business on the same parcel as the wild rumpus.

not sure how that is going to contribute to a "more predictable experience" better than telling people "hey, the land rating is "mature", so you might see some stuff that isn't "PG".

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hopefully one of the AR's had the last name "linden" attached to it. A linden sees violation of the TOS and does nothing about it, that linden needs to be brought to the attention of the other lindens, and followed up on so that any lindens that let him get away with it snag an AR too- even if the are named M,cyn, Jack, or whoever.

Business platforms don't act like a fraternity covering for an exam cheat. maybe IBM needs to know that.

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somebody get me a photo of that. I'm going to bed. I'm beat.

LOL. I'm so tired after today. At least there's flowerpots where the hurricane wire used to be. Flower Power baby!

“Based on the level of the interest we’re seeing, we are poised for explosive growth,” said Amanda Van Nuys, who joined Linden Lab six months ago as executive director of enterprise marketing.

“This is not a game. We’re ready for business. My role is to get that message out,” she said.



What planet are these people living on ?? I recently visited the sim of a well known cola company ( the sim seems to have since closed ). The sim traffic stats were 8. Yes......8. Hmmm....contrast that with stats of 140,000 for many top BDSM sites.

One of the best known engineering companies in the world has an 'innovation center' sim. Site traffic stats......27. Yes.....a pathetic 27 ! In other words.....NOBODY GOES THERE.

When is it FINALLY going to dawn on LL that 99.999% of their user base does NOT log in to attend business conferences, visit multinational corporation sims, or simply wander innocently through fields of pretty flowers. If there was no SEX on SL..............Lindens would be left with just half a dozen nuns, the CEO of Coke, and a few thousand bots.

It's not rocket science.

You deserve a medal, I think we can all agree you've already earned the chest to pin it on.

It really is a shame they don't account verify by maturity level in posts at XstreetSL and here. I get the feeling quite a few of those very vocal ones for the changes would never verify.

The only explosive growth I see, is the explosive growth of telepresence and video-conferencing systems - and fitting companies all around the globe.

They are growing like mushrooms after rain. 99,99% of them have nothing to do with virtual worlds. They offer serious realistic products for serious businesses and for real people.

So, this Amanda Van Nuys is yelling a message out somewhere from the last and lost waggon of a long train, standing on a dead track in the middle of the prairie.

There is nothing to win for LL beside laughter.

LL came too late. The buffet is empty.

I have read the "wonderful" PR article:

http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/06/01/story2.html?b=1243828800%5E1836431

and started immediatly to yawn like never before in my life.

Example:

"Virtualis also has a classic board of directors meeting room with a long table and 24 leather chairs."

"Virtualis offers more unconventional rooms, such as one where avatars can float on cloud-like chairs surrounded by the Tokyo skyline at night."

"Companies that have used Virtualis include Deloitte, Oracle and Trend Micro, which hosted an event with 75 people that included team building activities such as a scavenger hunt and a skydiving competition, Parks said."

And so on.

Boring.

This is cold, old, thin coffee for experienced people.

Scavenger hunt...hahaha. My god.

We do that even no more as warming up for our daily SL sessions. There are really better and interesting things to do after login.

But anyway, the sentence of the year is:

"...also has a classic board of directors meeting room with a long table and 24 leather chairs."

I think I will pin that on my virtual wall. To have a good laugh every day after rezzing at my home.

Hahahahaha

Sensational! Hahahaha. Such things we build in 51 seconds between teeth-brushing and cornflakes with one hand and morning-sleepy eyes. Since years.

It is fantastic to see, how proud they are about their very looooong thing, ahm, table and the 23 copies of one leather chair, to have 24 of them. LOL.

The buffet was empty back when CEO's were all enamored of "team building exercises" like taking the marketing department white-water rafting or tame-mountain climbing. It was rather a joke then, and the "corporate retreat" has passed out of vogue-

Imagine how *un*-trendy and desirable a *virtual* version must be to business!

the only advantage would be that it would be *cheaper* to screw up the "management flavor of the month" in SL than it would be to re-work your business plan and chain of command every couple months.

Seriously- the letters "CEO" do not magically make someone smart. In fact, they can mask a *lot* of dumbness.

I have no doubt that LL will be able to sell SL as some sort of corporate "team building/virtual retreat" app. but they'll only be able to sell it to people who are too out of touch or intellectually challenged to realize that the application itself is seriously out of date and has been replaced by hiring Tony Robbins to come in and high-five the board of directors at the rate of a $10k an hour.

LL better be hoping for a high turnover rate- because the only businesses that are *staying* in SL are the ones that *sell* in SL. A RL company depending on SL for marketing or "tele-presence" is setting itself up to fail, and fail *big*- not because of SL's limitations- which are many- but because they are running their business into the ground already- using SL to do it is a *symptom*.

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I post what I am emailed to the wiki so if anyone wants to post the whole chat if they have it saved please feel free, my email is in my profile and I assure anyone that emails me information I will preserve your anonymity.

All I ask is the same as on the front page of the wiki that we stick to the facts as SLapt.me is not a Linden Lab bashing site, just a repository of facts, on this and I would imagine future issues raised by the Lab.

I was gob smacked that a Linden could act like such a muppet with these sort of comments and it is just this sort of thing that needs to be shown up.

For so long the customers have not said a lot outside of LL forums when this sort of thing occurs and for me now is the time to show everyone what is being said, now we the customers have a stable platform with SLapt.me that is not going to go away as long as SL is standing and I own the server rack it is hosted on and it is based in Amsterdam where true freedom of speech is preserved by our legal system here.

SLapt.me is your site as without you guys and girls it is just a domain name residing on my servers

Along with Bill and Ben Linden and Little Weed Linden lol

http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2009/01/us-supreme-court-finally-kills-online-age-verification-law029.html

Lord Sullivan!! Guys, check this out!

Hahahaha. (You have to have lived in the UK to get the joke.)

Y'know, it's a shame that the Linden name is taking such a beating. In today's world of iconic branding, Linden Lab should pause and reflect on the declining value of its name. In my opinion, Linden Lab has a short window of opportunity to rescue the situation. In addition to the requisite academic and professional qualifications, the new Director of Customer Relations must possess a deep understanding of human nature and have a longstanding enthusiasm for the speculative scenarios of fiction and science fiction.

It was a 'crazy' idea ten years ago to build a virtual world - a crazy idea that worked! For Linden Lab to rub its hands together in self-congratulation and proceed to hire bankers, lawyers and technicians at the strategy level would be a classic Silicon Valley mistake. What Linden Lab needs now are skilled dreamers.

Hmm if this is true then
/me thinks this should contribute to a less predictable experience.
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I went back and checked the date and it is older. January of this year, but still. Why hasn't this been a part of the decision process for LL? Good work on Sissimaid Resistance for finding the article in the first place, btw.

Anyway, as Ann has said before, I realize now that this information is irrelevant to LL's design. It has to be regardless of what they are saying because age verification doesn't seem to be relevant based on this information.

So, the fact that they are pushing it so hard, as well as the all the separations, is now even more puzzling and murky than before.

*puzzled head tilt*

This is dated January 09. Possibly it's one of the reasons why congress has started that investigation that's due to report at the end of the year but nothing more important than that.


We know this isn't a legislative imperative, although it is looking like a political implementation. In the end it doesn't matter why LL are choosing to do it, it is their product and it is their right to do so.

What we should all be focussing on is getting the best possible compensation package from LL for the gross inconvenience to their customers. They could have, and should have, done this content splitting years ago but are only choosing to do so now. Their delay has increased the number of people caught and the impact of the separation immeasurably.

It's their company, they can do what they like.

If you don't like it - leave.

Within reason. They can't keep taking money for services (ie land sales/ fees), and then change the nature of that land without any form of compensation. And no, I don't count a miniscule chosen few being offered different land, on a pre-themed sim as any real compensation. There's the thousands who bought mature land on the understanding they *could* use it for things now punishable by banishment even if they currently only have very PG content there. They're not going to get swaps, and are going to find their land is worthless and restricted.

Sadly, I suppose they can be damning, condescending, patronising and generally unpleasant to the countless residents (who fund LL through buying L$, owning land, shopping, etc) who might enjoy the odd flash of pixel or keyboard erotica. That attitude is coming across more and more, witness the quoted Oskar Linden comments.



Agreed, if you don't like SL, leave. But if you liked and contributed to what SL *was*, then surely you should have every right to kick up a fuss and do your best to overturn this ludicrous policy change, and attempt some form of compromise if LL refuse to show an inkling of clue.