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Vivienne Schell
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05-05-2009 08:10
From: Ann Otoole


So actually the only way for LL to have a safe area with no embarrassments is a G grid with a G viewer that is not open source and no avatars allowed in with any anatomically correct aspects whatsoever.


And they still will have phone sex on the G-grid. Nah, best is to close SL down - or leave it to the authority of the militant religious minorities.

Which won´t prevent anyone from having phone sex.
JaneD DeCuir
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Sex vs. shooting
05-05-2009 08:11
Im wondering and im irritated.
The (supposed) trueness all about them showed looks as the same muddled up behaviour as as so long nobody is deeply grieved about the usage of weapons what is also a adult content. It seems that LL doesnt is interested in protecting of minor/childs to the usage of weapons. Guns are okay but sex is bad?! In this context they must need to move to Ursula also all this ppl who like to play with guns or similar toys.
Something is wrong how they did handle this cause. :mad: Nobody has been talked about wepons concerning the ongoing discussion about adult stuff. What is more harmful? Guns or sex?!!!

It would far easier in this context to move the kids to Ursula because they are in the minority and a full part of sl seems to be huge enough for their needs.

Its simply the extremes there we can not understand how some countries handle their behaviour about sex and weapons. Guns are good but sex is bad? Strange, it seems to be that some have their brains turned around 180 degrees in their heads. It lacks to strike a healthy balance between the two extremes. It seems to be that the US specially like shooting more then sex. Thats my opinion about and not personally.
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05-05-2009 08:13
From: Milla Janick
Don't cam into woodsheds.
Your literary education is lacking.

From: someone
Seriously, how often does that actually happen?
Often enough to make PG sims next to Mature sims a problem already.

From: someone
Besides, If the woodshed isn't advertised, it can still be in a mature region.
Not if there is no woodshed.
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Vivienne Schell
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05-05-2009 08:19
From: JaneD DeCuir
Guns are good but sex is bad?


Oh yes! This attitude helps in birth cotrol and reduces the risks of population growth immensely.
Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 08:20
I know folks don't like posting on the Xstreet forums, but I am convinced I'm reaching more new people there (new in the notion that they haven't found out yet about the proposed AC changes because they aren't following this blog) than I have anywhere else.

I've kept my JIRA thread from dying and I think it's helping people find the information.

Also, I've started a new thread summing up my objections to this change and adding Kira's suggestion post to it.

I would take it as a favor if people could read over what I wrote there and possibly add any facets I have forgotten to polish. I honestly honestly think this is helping get the word out to some of the casual browsers of Xstreet and has some serious grass roots potential.

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=105664

Oh! PEOPLE WITH PROTEST ITEMS ON XSTREET, PLEASE PUT LINKS TO YOUR ITEMS IN THE THREAD. If that's not against the rules. omg. Is it? *head scratch*
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Tory Micheline
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and WHAT started this.....
05-05-2009 08:24
It would be interesting to know what Economic Force created the need for "The Company" to change the way things were going? It's not just whim and whimsy, you know!
Milla Janick
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05-05-2009 08:25
From: Tory Micheline
It would be interesting to know what Economic Force created the need for "The Company" to change the way things were going? It's not just whim and whimsy, you know!

1,200 idle Openspace servers?
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Kara Spengler
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05-05-2009 08:30
From: Milla Janick
the problem with expanding the filtered words list too far will be that people will have to use the Adult search to find Mature items.

Right, if the goal is correct search results for your maturity rating just about any shopper who has PIOF will commonly leave their prefs set to adult. So things get cleaned up how? Plus now if they get routed to an infohub they will wind up in an adult one, even if they are not looking for adult content.
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Milla Janick
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05-05-2009 08:32
From: someone
Often enough to make PG sims next to Mature sims a problem already.

How much of a problem?

How much more would it be reduced with an Adult continent than by some method of reflagging parcels in Mature areas to Adult combined with the access controls in the 1.23 viewer?

There's room to adjust the policy. Possibly don't allow a parcel within 256 meters of a PG region to be flagged as adult. PG and Mature regions could be shuffled around to make more sense rather than the current situation.

Perfect? Not really, but neither is only moving part of the adult content off the current mainland.
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Vivienne Schell
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05-05-2009 08:34
From: Tory Micheline
It would be interesting to know what Economic Force created the need for "The Company" to change the way things were going? It's not just whim and whimsy, you know!


The pope?
Argent Stonecutter
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05-05-2009 08:38
From: Milla Janick
How much of a problem?
Enough to freak out the likes of Meta Linden.

I'm not arguing that this is necessary, I'm arguing that IF, for the sake of argument, you accept Meta Linden's assumptions, THEN you have to physically separate all Mature and Adult sims.

That is, IF they are allowing Mature and Adult sims to be adjacent in private estates, THEN there's no point in separating Mature and Adult on the mainland. Or contrariwise, IF you separate them on the mainland, THEN you should separate them on estates.

That is, regardless of whether their policy makes sense, it's not even consistent.
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05-05-2009 08:39
From: Vivienne Schell
The pope?
Give a man a fancy hat and an armor plated car, and he thinks he's the Voice of God.
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Hypatia Meili
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05-05-2009 08:47
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
I agree that will happen if the filtered list gets too big. In real life, it's common for strip clubs to have signs like "Live Girls", which is both true, non-adult, and gets the idea across.

For that matter, the term "Escort" developed as a cover for "Prostitute".

My suggestions for cover words:

Dancers (Strippers)
Girls (Female sex workers)
Toys (Sexual, fetish, and bondage gear)
Adult Furniture (sex furniture)

(Though at present there are still lots of synonyms not on the list)
While of some use:
The problem with using alternate terms is that they are only as useful as their commonness of use.
In other words if the customer does not know to use the alternate term they still wont find you.
What percentage will that be?
Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 08:47
From: Argent Stonecutter
Enough to freak out the likes of Meta Linden.



Has Meta said something else lately that I've missed? What's she freaking out about now?
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05-05-2009 08:56
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Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 09:01
From: Argent Stonecutter



Oh that. Yeah. :-/ Doesn't get any better with the reread. *sigh*
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Hypatia Meili
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Technical Issue: Informational - Acount Page
05-05-2009 09:08
The link on the account page for verification lead only to Aristotle,
And is still labeled beta.

The Knowledgebase link on the verification page leads to old info,
based solely on the Aristotle beta.

There is no indication there of other methods to verify.
And the parcel access information only reflects the current choices.
(Mature and PG)

Additionally the only other option listed to verify is to send hard copy RL documentation.


Effectively this prevents many people form verifying since most do not read the forums.

With the implementation imminent this needs to be updated ASAP!
Ryanna Enfield
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05-05-2009 09:09
From: Darien Caldwell
Who's opinion matters more? :)


Mine as a paying customer. Or Linden Labs as a Company filing for bankruptcy.
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Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 09:12
There is even less Linden presence on this thread than the last one. Welcome to Twist In The Wind Siberia. I'm sure they are not even reading this.
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Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 09:20
btw, does anybody know if 'bush' is on the filtered list? Has anyone tried that word yet?
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Darien Caldwell
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05-05-2009 09:35
Originally Posted by Darien Caldwell
Who's opinion matters more?



From: Ryanna Enfield
Mine as a paying customer. Or Linden Labs as a Company filing for bankruptcy.


That quote was taken completely out of context. You should be ashamed.

The original context can be found here, it was a discussion between Argent and I, and had nothing to do with you, LL, or the residents of Second Life. Please don't stoop to dirty, underhanded tactics with me.

/352/1d/318980/15.html#post2416413
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05-05-2009 09:42
From: Thorn Witrial


Oh! PEOPLE WITH PROTEST ITEMS ON XSTREET, PLEASE PUT LINKS TO YOUR ITEMS IN THE THREAD. If that's not against the rules. omg. Is it? *head scratch*


Yes we get slapped for that Thorn. I guess the only way around it is to direct people to the protest Materials link on the wiki and other external lists and then they can navigate from there to xstreet

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Couldbe Yue
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05-05-2009 09:43
From: Thorn Witrial
There is even less Linden presence on this thread than the last one. Welcome to Twist In The Wind Siberia. I'm sure they are not even reading this.


Blondin invited us to his open house tomorrow if we were missing him, so I suppose we need to go and remind him we're still here. ;)
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Thorn Witrial
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05-05-2009 09:47
From: Darien Caldwell
Originally Posted by Darien Caldwell
Who's opinion matters more?





That quote was taken completely out of context. You should be ashamed.

The original context can be found here, it was a discussion between Argent and I, and had nothing to do with you, LL, or the residents of Second Life. Please don't stoop to dirty, underhanded tactics with me.

/352/1d/318980/15.html#post2416413/352/1d/318980/15.html#post2416413


I hate to say this Darien, but I read the whole post and it doesn't sound out of context to me at all. LL's opinion only matters in that they can physically change the world however they want, but our opinion trumps theirs if we chose to leave, take our money with us, and they are left with an empty virtual world.
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Darien Caldwell
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05-05-2009 09:49
I see there's 20 more posts, so here's my general reply. Read the plan, read the facts. It's not hard to understand.

Stop taking it personal, it's not. LL knows you're mad, but That has never stopped them before.

For people who are taking about being treated with respect and being open minded, I see a lot of close-mindedness, and disrespect. Ursula is not a Ghetto, it's not a Concentration camp, all of that is in your head. In a world where we have no place, It's a place we can call our own. Its a home, and I do not shy away from it, I embrace it, as something precious.

People talking about how there's 80% npiofs, yes those are all the millions of inactive accounts which will never return. Most of the active people have payment info on file, don't fall for the red herring.

You can call me what you will, but I'm determined to make it through this, and make sure my customers and those I care about make it through too. I want everyone to. But I can't take you there, you have to do it yourself. Yelling in a forum never solved or accomplished anything. Decisive Action and understanding do. But it has to be the right action, for the right reasons. A lot of people are afraid to speak up about their agreement for fear of being labeled 'sellout' or what have you, just as I have been. But I'm more than willing to take up the mantle for their cause, and fight for them, as I have been. Someone has to.

There is no shame in giving a little ground in the name of peace. Keep throwing artillery and there will be none.
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