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Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Felix Oxide
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04-30-2009 17:33
From: Sindy Tsure
The link to vote at is really: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2727?


Voted and telling my friends and groups to vote as well.
Darien Caldwell
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04-30-2009 17:40
From: Da5id Weatherwax
I'll admit I havent bought anything in your store either, Darien.. but you WERE one of the places that convinced me the "scripted BDSM attachment" market was saturated.. every idea I've ever had for something like that can be found implemented in one or more products in your store. Now I just make evil furniture instead and target RLV users with a relay as my market - and even there some of your stuff has inspired me. So whilst I didnt buy I certainly didnt lose out by it :)


Yes, I'm just being cheeky, as I think the person I was replying to was being. :)
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Brenda Connolly
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04-30-2009 17:41
Since LL claim's they are taking action on behalf of residents who do not wish to see any Adult content, nor any mention of it anywhere, perhaps we all should do the same. Tell LL what content YOU don't want to see, tell them often. Atheists, tell them you want a more predictable SL experience by eliminating religious content from view. Don't like furries? Let 'em know. Kid Avs creep you out? Speak up. Vampires? Outta here! Xenophobes, now is your chance. Tell LL you'd rather not see anything having to do with Americans. Or Brazilians. Maybe you are a rez day elitist. No need to see any trace of people born after 2006. Let's make SL the neat little categorized, inoffensive and politically correct place RL is trying to be. Balkanize, I say! C'mon, who's with me?
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Darien Caldwell
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04-30-2009 17:42
From: Innula Zenovka
Some of us take the view that making a superior product to many of Dari's lines is a lot easier said than done.


Now I'm blushing. :D
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Vorren Voltaire
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04-30-2009 17:47
From: Valerius Constantine
NOpe- businesses on adult parcels won't show up on pg or mature search no matter what language they use. if the store is marked "adult" then PG and Mature search won't include it


At least, that's my understanding of the changes

^V^



Is that confirmed? Will adult parcels be blocked from search reguardless of content or language used?



Where the heck is Blondin?
Sindy Tsure
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04-30-2009 17:50
From: Felix Oxide
From: Sindy Tsure
The link to vote at is really: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2727

Voted and telling my friends and groups to vote as well.

500 votes! Keep 'em coming, folks!

/me did a group notice and sees many names she knows.. Go perverts!!
Brenda Connolly
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04-30-2009 17:51
From: Prilis Boa
I find the whole godwin concept tasteless, it says you should'nt use a political argument in a political discussion. To me this whole "adult" thing smacks of corporate fascism. Thats not an emotional response. There are important lessons to be learned from history that shouldn't be denied simply because people play the nazi card in discussions of furries or fandom.

I think it's relevant and germaine to the discussion here. We are dealing with discrimination and ostracism, the promotion of more established businesses over smaller concerns, The forcible moving of populations and communities. You can make the comparison for yourself if you have a good understanding of 20th century history, but not everyone does. Don't tell me how I can and can't put clothes on my arguments.

send me to a godwin gulag, I am gonna re-godwin my godwin:

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.

-Benito Mussolini

Does this mean LL will get the SL Trains to run on time?

I get your sentiments and agre to an extent, but some would say this is just the case of a company tailoring it's product to a more narrow target audience. And they wouldn't be wrong either.
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Couldbe Yue
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04-30-2009 17:52
From: Vorren Voltaire
Is that confirmed? Will adult parcels be blocked from search reguardless of content or language used?



Where the heck is Blondin?


blondin and all the other lindens have gone now. this thread has outlived it's usefulness.

check his last posts yesterday for confirmation of search restrictions - it's in there somewhere..
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Colette Meiji
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04-30-2009 17:56
It is nice to know the Tao has expanded to include the ingestion of reality distorting substances by certain employees who use a pseudonym reminiscent of a show named for the hours in the day.
Milla Janick
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04-30-2009 17:57
From: Brenda Connolly
Does this mean LL will get the SL Trains to run on time?

They need to work on getting them to run at all first.
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Ann Otoole
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04-30-2009 18:03
My name is flagged as mature.

How nice.

I wonder how many other people's names are flagged mature.

So I can see now that they actually have exclusion tables with actual names they discriminate against.

But if you search for Apple you will see booty and sexy are not mature flagged. Must be a Linden's store or a relative of a Linden's store that gets to have mature terms in PG ads.
Thorn Witrial
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04-30-2009 18:04
From: Ann Otoole
My name is flagged as mature.

How nice.

I wonder how many other people's names are flagged mature.

So I can see now that they actually have exclusion tables with actual names they discriminate against.

But if you search for Apple you will see booty and sexy are not mature flagged. Must be a Linden's store or a relative of a Linden's store that gets to have mature terms in PG ads.


O.O Your NAME??? Omg is it the 'tool' part? Criminy!
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Against the coming adult content changes? Vote for MISC-2727!!!
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- Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
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04-30-2009 18:06
From: Milla Janick
They need to work on getting them to run at all first.


As soon as the cattle cars are ready.
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04-30-2009 18:07
From: Thorn Witrial
O.O Your NAME??? Omg is it the 'tool' part? Criminy!


Bad news for all the Dicks out there.....and the Hancock clan I reckon
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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04-30-2009 18:08
From: Ann Otoole
My name is flagged as mature.

How nice.

I wonder how many other people's names are flagged mature.

So I can see now that they actually have exclusion tables with actual names they discriminate against.

But if you search for Apple you will see booty and sexy are not mature flagged. Must be a Linden's store or a relative of a Linden's store that gets to have mature terms in PG ads.


Your last name that LL offered as a list of last names?!!!
Ann Otoole
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04-30-2009 18:17
This will be well documented and published far and wide so all will know how smart people employed by Linden Lab are. It needs to be a nagging memory in the back of every hiring manager's mind around the planet when they see Linden Lab listed in employment history and then remember oh yea the people that treated millions customers like that. Oh yea we surely want this sort of material working here treating our valued customers the same way.
Colette Meiji
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04-30-2009 18:40
From: Ann Otoole
My name is flagged as mature.

How nice.

I wonder how many other people's names are flagged mature.

So I can see now that they actually have exclusion tables with actual names they discriminate against.

But if you search for Apple you will see booty and sexy are not mature flagged. Must be a Linden's store or a relative of a Linden's store that gets to have mature terms in PG ads.


How the hell can they flag your LAST name as adult?

THEY provided the choices!
Argent Stonecutter
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04-30-2009 18:40
You gotta be kidding, how can they flag names that people had almost no control over?
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Wynochee LeShelle
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04-30-2009 18:42
From: Ceera Murakami
Well, I sent jack an IM, though I doubt it will change his opinion that it is merely "some people are unhappy".


If he put just one eye for a second into the closed and into the open threads here and maybe - for example - Jean Linden (german speaking) can help him to put another eye into the fast growing thread about the changes at the german community website/forum on slinfo.de then he can learn in a minute that thousands and thousands of people are extraordinaire unhappy = angry.

These are only the informed people wich checked somehow 4-6 weeks belated what is going on. LL can expect a tsunami of anger, if LL would have the courage to give the info to *all* customers *now*.
Felix Oxide
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04-30-2009 18:44
From: Ann Otoole
My name is flagged as mature.

How nice.

I wonder how many other people's names are flagged mature.

So I can see now that they actually have exclusion tables with actual names they discriminate against.

But if you search for Apple you will see booty and sexy are not mature flagged. Must be a Linden's store or a relative of a Linden's store that gets to have mature terms in PG ads.
Is this on the web search or search with the new RC viewer? Every name I type into the web search it says you can only search inworld with mature listings enabled.
Sindy Tsure
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04-30-2009 18:50
From: Felix Oxide
Is this on the web search or search with the new RC viewer? Every name I type into the web search it says you can only search inworld with mature listings enabled.

What's the web search url again?

edit: found it at http://search.secondlife.com/search.php

edit edit: /me also finds Ann in search..
Dax Greer
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Voted!!
04-30-2009 18:58
From: Prilis Boa
and send the link to your friends and groups:

http://jira.secondlife.com/secure/ViewVoters!default.jspa?id=32914


I did cast my vote, not that I really think it's going to matter. Esp. with only 500 something votes. To me it doesnt reflect that even close to majority of people are upset with the changes. I wish EVERYONE would vote!!! It is a good way for your voice to get heard!
Colette Meiji
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04-30-2009 19:03
From: Dax Greer
I did cast my vote, not that I really think it's going to matter. Esp. with only 500 something votes. To me it doesnt reflect that even close to majority of people are upset with the changes. I wish EVERYONE would vote!!! It is a good way for your voice to get heard!


500 is a heck of a lot of votes for Jira

Most people hate the dam thing. They always did. But somehow that escaped Linden attention also.
Hypatia Darkstone
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Join date: 22 Jul 2008
Posts: 19
First I thought it was working but then..... Oops It's Broke!
04-30-2009 19:06
Account #1
NPIOF
Verified Through Xstreet Via PayPal

WHILE USING RELEASE VEIWER:
Can TP to Arapaima
Can NOT loggin to Arapaima
Can NOT set Search or Preferences Above Mature (they are grayed out & Unavailable)
Can NOT search Adult terms
But CAN see SOME but not all place using "ADULT Terms"

WHILE USING CURRENT VIEWER:
Can NOT TP to Arapaima
Can search for stuff using "ADULT Terms" both with & without mature checked, as expected

{Initial reaction: Yeah! I got in.}

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Account #2
Showing NPIOF in world
but has entered Payment info on the accounts page

Exact same results!

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Account #3
A Totaly UNVERIFIED Account ****** <-------

Exact same results!

{Final reaction: DOH! It's Just Broke!}

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Account #4
PIU seems to be working correctly. in other words as it is suppose to.
Can log in to there directly even (which did not work on the others)

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*** It Seems the new viewer is now allowing Uverified to enter Arapaima! ***
However: I have reports form friends of Aristotle verified NOT getting to Arapaima.

NPIOF is not updating to PIOF with out submitting a ticket.
(which may or may not get looked for basic accounts)
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Note:
Some Avatars at Arapaima are now saying that:
Arapaima is MATURE Not ADULT and is where failed TP to Ursula are being direct.

I do see it marked as "ADULT" when there on the Release viewer.
Ann Otoole
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04-30-2009 19:09
Try putting nothing but your name in a pg classified on a pg parcel. See if it goes invisible on a pg search.

I was trying to figure out what word in an ad was not PG and finally just tried sticking my name in the ad and on the name of the ad. No good. Shows up mature but not PG.

Personally I think it is borked beyond all hope and LL needs to bring in some real database expertise and get rid of the tricycle kiddie toy database and pay up for a real database like Oracle. You get what you pay for.

Basically some people will have PG ads no matter what sort of words are in the ads. Anyone surprised at that? Others will not be allowed to have PG ads, etc. etc.