Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Corporations especially international ones HATE being made to look silly and incompetent. It tends to give their investors , shareholders and backers sweaty palms and nervous twitches. So if anyone is planning on spreading the word I'd recommend concentrating on the ludicrous and silly and downright funny aspects 'make em laff' so there's more chance of your posts getting attention. For instance a post headline along the Lines of 'Second Life is going Ass over Tits' will get read!

Err .... no.

You were searching secondlife.com, not all of secondlife.

LOL i will use 'Second Life is going Ass over Tits' as the subject line

It shocks me that so far every person I have told in world about this was completely clueless. They had no idea this is even happening because they never read the forums or blog. It should be on the login screen.

Not sure what you are driving at here? They haven't got around to banning political or religious concepts yet, just sexual and "adult" themes. You can choose your political persuasion at any age in most societies, in America this is endorsed by the constitution, to the chagrin of the previous government and Linden Labs.

That makes me wonder actually, has anyone seen Bush or any of his rabble lately? I'm wondering if they have found new jobs in San Francisco

Just a quick appeal to everyone to please Buy and Rate these freebies from xstreet, whether you have been given them in world or not or have nowhere to place them.

The reason why is simple - the more of these you buy the higher the items will rise in the popular items search and thus the easier it will be for casual browsers of xstreet who daily scan the popular freebies section to find them.

Just another way of getting the word across to the masses and doing LLs work for them

Now that would make nice media coverage. The question of course is just how many people live around SF and would be prepared to go.

LOL and I just watched "Milk" last night, come back Harvey we need you! btw, I am in the UK, so I am really close, just send me a ticket and I'm there

Same here, same endorsement by our (Austria) constitution, plus voting on the federal plus national elections is allowed here from age 16 on.

But open fascism is restricted here by law for good reasons, thinking on Austria's and Germany's history. So, if one speaks or acts open fascistic in Germany or Austria = court + jail!

Well, hmmm, what I wanted to drive there? Basicly I wanted to assure myself about the fact, that obviously LL seems to find fascism less harmful than sexuality.

I would not wonder now if the KKK would be flagged PG/Mature too.

From my view it looks to me, that LL has no problems with it, to drive a biz-politic and a company-philosophy, using fascistic methods since new, i.e. censorship, deplacement, ghettoizing and other discriminations of all sorts, etc. to attack nature and sexuality and other expressions and creative processes.

This is about wich I meditate a bit... - hmmm, but *if* any political party, no matter how extreme their program may be is, is on principle allowed/endorsed by the US-American Constitution, we should maybe think about to cover all our erotic and artistic and whatever activities as political program and political activities and each couple or group should declare themselfs being a political party/movement. In this case LL would be in conflict with the constitution of their country, if they further discriminate such movements...

Maybe we should officially open an "ART & SEX-Party" as political ingame-construction to be safe and not traced. Under that umbrella we can maybe exist in peace, without being forced to move elsewhere and without being censored and muted and moved out of biz and property.

do you fancy a day trip to brighton?

Already there dear

Also PayPal, VISA, MasterCard and the other CreditCard companies who are being used as Age Verification services which I don't think their Terms of Service allow.

As long as the discussion stays in the forums the rest of the world and residents are kept in the dark.

then perhaps we need to talk...

Edited/deleted: Nevermind - no point escalating this further. I see I am in a minority of those that feel that Nazi/holocaust comparisons are inappropriate to define a computer game. I bow to the wisdom of the majority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_culture

Here's why I feel the comparison has validity

Censoring or filtering things to the point that people can no longer be educated about the past is a true crime. There are words in the filter such as "slave" which are an important part of history no matter how you feel about the issue. To filter words that are often used in education and throughout history is leaning towards trying to forget, or pretend they did not, and do not exist. It is wrong, and we all know what happens when "those who forget the past". As it stands, there are a lot of younger people today who know much less about sensitive topics such as slavery, Hitler, Apartheid, and yes... even sex.

So while I agree that it might be pretty extreme to relate this situation here to those events, I'd rather people not forget about Historical tragedies. You might someday find yourself in a position of having to explain what these major events in history are all about to the younger generations, considering the amount of censoring running rampant in education recently.

Lasher, I completely understand that comparison, and it may well result in some of the more talented people leaving SL. But where I get stuck is that this is a virtual "game"/world - no real people are getting killed, segregated, forced into slavery. The worst that (to me) is happening is that this virtual world may be becoming a place where people will leave and maybe lose some money. (Don't get me wrong, this is bad enough.) Nobody is going to be gassed, sodomized, or otherwise have any RL "rights" violated, as far as I can see. Those that really feel that this is akin to Nazi Germany (as opposed to just using it for effect, which is what I suspect most are doing), in my opinion, need to maybe look at why they feel this - maybe they are TOO much immersed in a virtual world and need to get back in tough with what matters - their real lives and themselves.

But, as I said, this is just my opinion, and I voice it. Sorry if it is unwelcome here.

Yes run it in RL press, Linden Lab wil applude that! lol. I bet SL get 1 mill new "members"
Why? Cuz SEX and ADULT and PORN and stuff like that draw in ppl like flies on a shit!
Curyusity are a in the human nature. So it wil be a mill $ wort of comercial to LL hehehehe, and i wil prolly get some new costumers

And related to the Ursula plan I like to add this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_plan

Please don't feel like your opinions are unwelcome here. A lot of people have voiced their opinions, and you have every right to voice yours as well.

Is Linden Labs about to set a precedence in VR environments with these decisions? Other people have spoken about other communities where this sort of action was taken and have also mentioned the outcome as a consequence. The problem is, I feel Linden Labs thinks they are above all that happened to other Companies who went down this path and that some how they are going to be the one to come out on top. I also think they are very mistaken. =(

I understand how you feel ..but to many this IS their RL....those confined to wheelchairs...those with some terrible disease such as MS.....Sl is in a way a form of therapy to many....I personally know of one person who is wheelchair bound....he may not be able to actually feel pleasure but in his mind he does and it has made him happy...this is his RL.
We may be pixels here but the emotions and feelings are real...MHO

Ryanna, I am all in favour of such education - I have visited the war museums in Berlin, seen the Iron Curtain in Germany, watched DDR TV. It is absolutely vital that we do not forget and allow our descendants to make the same mistakes as in the past. I have tried to educate myself as much as reasonable to the atrocities that our human race has perpetrated on itself.

I agree that in no way should LL consign educational builds on these subjects to the "Adult" arena - everyone should be able to see what those true Real World horrors are.

My only concern is in this discussion - that in claiming that the Adult segregation in Second Life mirrors the atrocities that went on, it triviliases those RL atrocities, implying that they happen every time a corporation makes a decision to change its products that the observer doesn't agree with. It's "Reductio ad Hitlerum" at its worst.

This is an illustration of how we can expect issues of terminology to be addressed:

LL are still insisting that I flag my ass as adult content in xstreetsl, despite the fact that the item is an equine mammal and in no way suspicious or smutty. They are refusing to communicate further with me on this issue and I am unable to edit any of my other listings on xstreet unless I change my ass to adult.

I am aware that this is an xstreet issue and not inworld, but it's an illustration of the kind of lunacy and political correctness we will all be faced with for using any kind of words that don't meet with the nanny lindens approval.

you can view my ass here, I am not plugging my ass on this forum, just want to show the stupidity of the situation.

https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1348154

Final thought: as all proceeds are going to cancer research, if you would like to buy my pretty ass, send me 10 bucks in world. If I sell 100 of them I will change its name to "My Pretty Linden"

Thanks

That is asinine, in my opinion.

It's one of the major reasons I have voted for the JIRA to stop work on this until they can do it better, and I posted in the comments about that. There are other examples, of course, like the tits.

Bad, bad, bad in my opinion.

I doubt you are a minority. I'm sure many see some of these arguments as over the top. Maybe it's made them withdraw or not participate in the argument. I know I don't really want to be associated with it.