True to form, he did not answer all of the questions at his OH yesterday either. I did not count anyone else's, but he did not answer the 2 I asked about.
I'm sorry to hear that Kara
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Waterstar Eilde
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04-30-2009 07:48
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Akira Luminos
*I* Am Adult Content
Join date: 19 Mar 2009
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04-30-2009 07:49
Doing what I do in SL by being able to maintain full privacy, is exactly the reason why I joined SL: for a pleasurable, anonymous 'second' life, having chats with strangers about things I would never dare to raise with anyone I know in RL. If in future, proof of ID in any shape or form was required, this will be a risk of accidental or intentional discovery for me and others. A risk I think I will coerce me to find alternatives to SL. The risk is too big. If anyone ever found out what I do in SL, relatives, friends or acquaintances, my real life reputation would take a hammering. Please, understand. This is a concern for many people. But, there's a major flaw in age verification - hop over to the independent wiki at http://www.slapt.me/wiki and have a look at the issues section re. age verification. I'm sure 'the King' can help you out  |
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Thorn Witrial
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04-30-2009 08:08
I've taken Miro Collas' informative notecard and added Couldbe Yue's url of her analysis of the situation to it. I've passed this combined card out to my entire group and friends list, so maybe a hundred people. Madddyyy Shnook has kindly passed it on to his group, of about 4000 people.
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Keokipele Ansar
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Open Space / Homestead Vote???????
04-30-2009 08:15
And where is the vote on this? I vote no. And voting on those homestead and openspaces worked... So, why is there no vote on this? Uh, what vote was that? Apparently "Adult Content Policy" is shaping up to be exactly the same kind of vote . . . |
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Ayla Holt
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Can anyone tell me.............
04-30-2009 08:17
I downloaded the RC viewer 1.23.0 and tried to search with my main avi that is age verifed. The adult button was grayed out and adult words returned zero results.
Is this because they haven't finished it yet or is it because it is seeing me as not age verified? Anyone know? (please excuse any spelling or grammar errors----- SL could have spent this time and energy putting spell check in SL or on their forums instead of the focus to filter words that I know how to spell)  |
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
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04-30-2009 08:19
...That is the ONLY true way that we can "vote" in any truly meaningful way - with our logins. If you believe that this is fundamentally the wrong thing for LL to do, and you spend one Linden on anything, then you are tacitly supporting it. Even if you log in you are supporting it. Certainly if you are paying tier to LL you are supporting it. Why do I say that? Because you are adding to the numbers and providing LL with more income for their product that you don't agree with so strongly. It'd be like an animal rights activist wearing a fur hat. So what are you (and I don't mean just you, Lindall  ) going to do when LL make this change? Are you still going to log in, pay tier - support Linden's decision? Or are all the calls for action on here just empty calls without any real teeth to try to force LL into doing something that you want? Because if they aren't backed up with actions on your part, as Lindal says, your efforts are noble, but doomed.All very, very true. For my part, I've done what I can. I've sold my land, and after this month, will pay zero tier to LL. Tonight, I will downgrade my membership from Premium to Basic. I'm spending much less in world...not zero, but I've cut way back. Will I leave SL and stop logging in? No...but if there were a viable alternative out there, my answer would be very, very different. I must continue to worship the mad gods of Linden Lab, but as soon as there's another, more enlightened pantheon somewhere, they will have a new convert. _____________________
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Tabliopa Underwood
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04-30-2009 08:21
I downloaded the RC viewer 1.23.0 and tried to search with my main avi that is age verifed. The adult button was grayed out and adult words returned zero results. Is this because they haven't finished it yet or is it because it is seeing me as not age verified? Anyone know? (please excuse any spelling or grammar errors----- SL could have spent this time and energy putting spell check in SL or on their forums instead of the focus to filter words that I know how to spell) |
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Oli Magic
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how about the private sex?
04-30-2009 08:23
can i have sex on my rented mature land or must i move?
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Thorn Witrial
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04-30-2009 08:26
can i have sex on my rented mature land or must i move? BLONDIN DO YOU SEE THIS QUESTION??? We've been talking about this for weeks and you've answered it but still people don't know basic stuff like this because LINDEN LABS HAS NOT MADE IT PUBLIC in any way that will reach people efficiently. YOU NEED TO PUT THIS CHANGE ON THE LOGIN SCREEN. it's the only way to let the majority of residents know what is coming, which is their RIGHT AS PAYING CUSTOMERS. I know many people have basic accounts but they still pay. They still put rl money into the game and they count. And Oli, yes you can have sex on your rented mature land, but only if you do it out of sight. In a building or something...because the party line is SEX is dirty and bad and must be hidden because tender children, educators and corporations are more important than you. |
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Brieanne Bomazi
Don't forget the *E*
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I'm just sayin.....*I* am Adult Content
04-30-2009 08:28
can i have sex on my rented mature land or must i move? according to Blondin, unless your making it a public event, you should be fine |
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Ayla Holt
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04-30-2009 08:34
Goto Edit \ Preferences \ General \ Rating and change from PG Only to PG, Mature and Adult and you should be fine. Ah, thank you, I'll do that. |
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Lasher Oh
Smelling the coffee
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04-30-2009 08:39
according to Blondin, unless your making it a public event, you should be fine Careful about noisy sex though - the walls have ears ^L^ |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
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04-30-2009 08:39
Careful about noisy sex though - the walls have ears ^L^ And Elbows! ^V^ |
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Ann Otoole
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04-30-2009 08:45
And Elbows! ^V^ And in some cases glory holes but I think that is when you get pee wee hermaned whose name shall nevermore be mentioned in Second Life. |
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Viciously Llewellyn
Not Really Vicious ;-)
Join date: 27 Sep 2007
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04-30-2009 08:45
Where do you get that figure, Viciously? The grid's lost nearly 5,000 regions since the OpenSpace fiasco. Oh yeah...people are still logging in, in that sense nobody's "left". But the world shrank by over 20% in three months. I think that's pretty significant. The "37" figure was grasped out of thin air and was only meant to be suggesting and illustrative of the point that the OS situation didn't exactly live up to the "death of SL" that was predicted by so many. The grid shrank by 5,000 regions ... regions that The Lab insists they were losing money on. From our perspective as users, that might be a loss ... from theirs perspective as the owners, it might be a gain. The real question comes from the response. Was it; "DAMN, we have 5,000 empty servers (pulls out hair), what are we going to do now???" or was it; "WOOHOO, we have 5,000 empty servers (jumps for joy), what are we going to do now?!!!!!" Now, I don't work for them, so I'm only guessing at the response ... but based on what is now on those servers ... I think they are calling it Ursula today ... my guess is that the latter is more accurate than the former. Either way, the thought was about the "death of SL" which in my time here, I've pretty much come to expect will be assigned to any move The Lab makes. If they passed out free Lindens to everyone on Second Life, someone would threaten to leave, and insist that was the "death of SL." It's become as predictable as Blondin's answers. |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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04-30-2009 08:51
Either way, the thought was about the "death of SL" which in my time here, I've pretty much come to expect will be assigned to any move The Lab makes. If they passed out free Lindens to everyone on Second Life, someone would threaten to leave, and insist that was the "death of SL." _____________________
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Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
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04-30-2009 08:51
I'm sorry to hear that Kara Oh well, his annoying habit of taking questions to right before he runs out (so not answering beyond the first few) can get frustrating. _____________________
Those Lindening Lindens!
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
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04-30-2009 08:52
"DAMN, we have 5,000 empty servers (pulls out hair), what are we going to do now???" or was it; "WOOHOO, we have 5,000 empty servers (jumps for joy), what are we going to do now?!!!!!" it wasn't 5000, I think there were 4 os to a cpu and 4 cpu to a server (ok, teminology bad but you get my drift) therefore it's around 300-350 they have available for reuse. which means that Ursula can be around 1250 sims before they have to go out and buy new server space (4 sims to a box rather than 16) but there are people out there who remember the technical stuff for this far better than moi. _____________________
Satiated Desires: Toys for Grown Ups.
Inworld: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Norf%20Haven/186/132/55 XSL: https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=77743&&sort=age&dir=asc Blog: http://satiateddesires.wordpress.com/ |
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Ann Otoole
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04-30-2009 08:53
... It's become as predictable as Blondin's answers. Not to mention that after people make themselves emotionally exhausted from freaking out over the latest LL induced disaster the sound of dissent always turns into the sound of success: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg |
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Waterstar Eilde
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04-30-2009 08:58
Well, something POSITIVE to add to this: I just looked at the 1.23.0 RC Client, and ran a few quick tests. Set my maturity rating to Adult in Preferences. (I'm Payment info Used and Aristotle verified). Set search preferences to show all types of content. It defaults to PG, but the PG, Mature and Adult checkboxes, by search tab type, are independantly selectable. With Adult checked, can still search for and find terms like "BDSM". With Adult not checked, can't search for those "banned words", and get a vague error indicating the search terms are inappropriate, as explained in the Community standards. Given that BDSM got thousands of hits with Adult checked, it apperently is including individual parcels that are flagged as Adult, and not just sims flagged that way. Couldn't possibly be that many sims already flagged adult and with adult content already on them. SO... If I want to search ONLY for Adult-labeled region (or parcel), I can check ONLY the adult checkbox, and be relatively assured my naked slave and I won't TP into a PG-rated sim and store that happens to sell a few racy items. If I am wanting a more comprehensive search, and am dressed appropriately for a PG sim, I can check all the boxes, and search all, even for "racy" terms. But if I uncheck "adult" I can't search for the "dirty words" and get an error indication that implies this is NEVER allowable, not that it is only not allowed at the lower maturity rating. This last is still a problem. It should instead indicate that my search included terms that require an "Adult" rating. My guess is they've still got a way to go on this. Example: search term in Places 'Bukkake' PG or PG/Mature checked returns no result Example: search term in Places 'Bukkake Bliss' PG checked returns no result PG/Mature checked returns no other bukkake results, but does list Bukkake Bliss at the head (bad pun, sorry) of the list Likewise, using the same search terms in Classifieds/Shopping, 'Bukkake' returns no hits unless Adult is checked, but 'Bukkake Bliss' returns a number of BDSM and Bukkake Fetish hits. It's a perfect example of the single word search not working, but combinations throwing up some interesting returns (albeit not in PG). I'm off to see how creative I can be with my wording... |
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Ayla Holt
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Join date: 17 May 2006
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Word, words, and more words
04-30-2009 08:59
As far as I can tell in testing with the RC 1.23.0 viewer with only PG and Mature marked I am able to get the following words without filters.....
Slaves (but not slave) Master Mistress Dom Sub Strip Masterbate (guess its not adult if you do it alone) Hooker (but not escort) Tit (but not Tits) Screw Naked Nude Forced Force Suck Blow Dick Ass I head someone say that they couldn't use he word "ass" but it came up for me without filters just fine. |
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janeforyou Barbara
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04-30-2009 08:59
I hope that you will survive this latest incident that LL has thrust on us and such a big one at that, after this my confidence really does go down with LL because if they are capable of doing this i wonder what else they are planning or starting to plan now to thrust on the customer base in the next 6 or 12 months. Investing in LL at the moment is something i really do not want to do and i will be watching the coming months until and after the change with interest. I am sure there are going to be a lot more casualties than most of us realize. I run a successful RL adult business but if changed things like LL are doing with this censorship deal, i am sure i would soon go out of business very quickly. Now in comparison to LL its only a small business, but it doesn't matter how big or small you are, eventually all the customers will leave or stay as free accounts using freebies etc. and eventually the in world economy will crash and as its not the Real world there will be no cash injections for those businesses that slowly lose cash. It wouldn't surprise me if we start to see over the coming months lots of good freebies coming onto the market place as disillusioned designers stick the finger up to LL and leave, what better way to get back at LL than attempt to crash the economy with good quality freebies so people do not have to spend anything in game. Just my thoughts though I agree with you on your though here Lord,when i comes to feebees we all got some ( usly some are crap) but also many shops give away T shirts and Tattoos, the worst are i seen whole shops in some places that got freebees, and at them places i will never ever rent a shop, also when i se malls that got huge "botfarms" i just run away as thay usly set up the shoprent wery hight cuz of there " huge traffick" I se botfarm in a mall same as a "scam" When it comes to economy and sales we all know it been down sins November 2008, i do belive we will get sales back as the economy get more stabil. But the consern are still Linden Labs flip flopping on rules, suddenly you can risk that your invesmet got no value,, i am not shure how Linden Lab plan, or what strategy thay got or if thay at all got ppl to handle marketing and economy or if thay at all got the same type on exp and knowlage that we the owners of sims and malls and SL business got. I belive that it is us, you and me and other with some exp in how to run tings are the ones that know best, not Linden Lab. |
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
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Adult Changes Protest Bear
04-30-2009 08:59
Show everyone how boxed up you feel with the new Adult changes in Secondlife.
Make a picture with this bear and put that on http://www.flickr.com/groups/we_are_adult_content/ It comes with a notecard giver that explains all the changes, so make sure you put this out in a public place. https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1428601 There is also a copy on our land by the landing spot but please buy from Xstreet and please rate it afterwards Many Thanks _____________________
Independent Shopping for Second Life residents from established and new merchants.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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04-30-2009 09:01
I downloaded the RC viewer 1.23.0 and tried to search with my main avi that is age verifed. The adult button was grayed out and adult words returned zero results. Is this because they haven't finished it yet or is it because it is seeing me as not age verified? Anyone know? (please excuse any spelling or grammar errors----- SL could have spent this time and energy putting spell check in SL or on their forums instead of the focus to filter words that I know how to spell) _____________________
Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
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GreenKnight Kaul
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04-30-2009 09:02
What was the answer to "Yes, what?" ? QUOTED from meeting; [16:25] Blondin Linden: [16:17] GreenKnight Kaul: Is this merely about advertising? Does this mean as long as i don't advertise my sex nooks, rooms, or the adult picture gallery, I will be ok to stay on mature? Yes they are publically accessable. Btw before i even started advertising i was getting an average weekly traffic of 500 because i hate the red security tape. Would that alone make me public? Answer: yes END QUOTE That's just it. The answer to my multi part question was "yes". I'm more confused now as to LL's intentions than ever. It was my mistake, I tried to get all my questions into one set of questions. Ran out of time at the meeting to get this answered, so hoping it will get answered here. Unless the answer is: Yes, its all about advertising. Yes, I can still have all the adult material accessible as long as I don't advertise that material. Yes, making a build that draws people in without intending it to be public makes it public. _____________________
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