Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Gee, thanks blondin! Nice to know that you're spending your limited store of Orange letters commenting on things that *don't* matter to anyone, while at the same time, ignoring *really* important questions like "Is my business in violation", or "What are the damn definitions anyway?" or "Why are the definitions couched and enforced in such a way as to make the *BIBLE* "adult content"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Congratulations Prilis! you have joined the "Owes Valerius a new Keyboard and a minion" club. got the monitor on that one too.

If CSI comes in here with luminal, they're going to think I sacrificed a cow to the compuer gods or something!

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Then why aren't they accurate, as in the same words that are on the audio?

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Yes.

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Gorean, Gor is not an Adult word. Slave, Slavery is not an Adult word. Filtering such words is like saying that Roman is an Adult word because the Romans had slave, and yes, they used them for sex. What a joke your Adult word list is becoming. I first learned of slavery some time in Elemententary School when learning about History! History should be on the Adult word filter I guess. Which is like saying that children should never be taught History. LL, you are brilliant. Goreans are an imaginary people from an imaginary world. If you want to make sex Adult... Fine, but making their name Adult filtered is just plain ridiculous. No more Dungeons and Dragons for that matter because... You guessed it Dungeons are an Adult filtered word list. Why? What happens in your Dungeon? People in medieval times didn't have Dungeons? The Adult Filter words are simply a joke, and Linden Labs is now a complete JOKE in my eyes.

BUt if that is so, then why is it in the *docs* for the 1.23 viewer? The only people to read it will be the ones who *have* it, yes? so why would they bother telling them about the consequences of *not* having it?

They wouldn't. the 60days is referring to something else.


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LL is not normal! They lost track. They miss some gondolas at their head-carousels. Gaga. Dada. And delirium.

What sorts of too hard drinks are hidden in these brown bags?

Absynth? Also known as Van Gogh's brainkiller.

LL started once to sell 18+ rated adultware to 18+ adults. Now they start to sell the same 18+ rated adultware (SL) over night reformatted as 18+ prudeware (still the same SL) to the same 18+ adults, while telling them to play prude now, otherwise: ghetto plus killed alphabet.

And LL takes still 18+ adult money for that mess.

So we have now a 18+ rated prudeware-package (still branded as SL, Your World. Your Imgaination. blablabla)) wich contains 18+ rated adultware for 18+ adults, but it is advertized 24/7 around the prudish clock to the 18+ rated prudish orgs, that it (SL) would be from now on perfect prude 18+ prudeware, while everyone knows that it is still 18+ rated adultware for 18+ adults, wrapped into a 18+ prudeware-image.

- doctor, doctor, please....

- or a custodian

- or both - for the company-staff. They need serious help.

And we? We need a serious lawyer, because breach of contract by LL and whatever additional issues from A-Z including discrimination of all sorts, by missing transcripts, the use of only one language and no informations to the majority of the globewide customer base.

The more serious biz-partner is the mafia. There you know what you get, for wich price and when. Can be adultware or a bullet into your knee, but both they deliver in time and safe with no change of contract and after delivering it is yours.

Cute, because I first LEARNED of Gor and Gorean things in an AOL chat room. Hmm...

Only the residents who know *anything at all* about what is happening!

Grumble.

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No, and I see what you meant. But I'd like to point out that *I* now consider Linden Labs a total JOKE of a Company. How can any company, educator, or anyone take Linden Labs and this policy seriously?

Time to break out the Woody Guthrie, people. Anybody got a harmonica?

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I'm guessing something like the same way they have notified the community of the new Adult Content Policy. Good luck.

In Second Life, I can ignore the smell. In Second Life, I can mute and ignore the inmates. In Second Life, the inmates can't hurt me unless I allow them to do so.

As a Brit, I am rather amused that Linden Labs software will apparently regard the chorus to Rule Britannia, as adult content.

Unfortunately, I don't think that this is what is happening. I think that LL has a plan all mapped out, and they are convinced of the brilliance of it.
They look toward the future as if it were made of gold bricks and sunshine, and are convinced that anyone trying to talk them out of their rosy view has some sort of hidden agenda or just doesn't understand.

They also *may* have an overarching goal of which this is just a part. maybe they have an offer of a buyout from some Chinese conglomerate, but not until they get rid of all the porn.
Maybe Phil got religion and promised the pope, The Prophet Moroni, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster that he would drive all the sinners and blasphemers from SL.

May the Scientologists are buying it to use as a top secret platform for world domination, but consider all of us a bunch of dysfunction "thetans" to be purged by virtual E-Meter.

Whatever.

But the fact remains that LL *has* a plan, and they'll be sticking to it no matter *how* bad it is, and no matter how much damage it inflicts- to us *or* them.

We've tried to Save them and ourselves at the same time. we've given them plenty of ideas for how to accomplish what they seem to want without steamrollering everyone in their path.
We've offered them numerous ways to continue to follow their own Tao.

We have been rebuffed and the vast majority of users *still* don't even know what is about to hit them.

I suggest that we all take stock of our own responsibilities. We know what is happening. we know about *when* it will be happening.

We should be out there informing the rest of the residents. the more people who know about what is coming, the fewer will be harmed by it and the more voices will be added to ours.

Frankly, I don't care if some of the people we inform *like* this idea. *they* need to know about it too.

We need to find a way to let a *lot* of people know. I mean a *lot*. preferably in some way that LL cannot muzzle.

The first thought that came to mind was the game websites. Bloodlines, DCS, CCS, WARPS, KROS, etc. Everyone checks in for their stats, to manage characters, etc. A banner on the homepage of each would be a start, wouldn't it?

Any other huge venues like that that anyone can think of? And is there anyone reading this who can make these banner ads happen?


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I just uninstalled SL tonight. Obviously, the kind of myopic corporate groupthink that gave us the financial crisis has now inhabited the management of SL, making for a huge, invasive hassle and a degraded experience for most SL users.

Bye SL. It was fun while it lasted. Too bad you will go out of business by the end of 2010. I guess freedom is just too big a concept for you to deal with.

And to the religious nuts, yes, you claimed another scalp. But just all the same, fuck you. You guys are a plague worse than swine flu.

I just finished "leafletting" owners of malls where we rent, as well as owners of clubs I know of. Oh, and a few people who I know make a LOT from selling "adult" items to newbies... Nyteshade for example.

So, individuals, but that's still something I guess. Oh, drat, I meant to stop by Gor Hub and forgot.

Disingenuous is right! I sincerely hope that adult-rated landowners DON'T turn age verification on as well, precisely for the reason that Innula highlights (i.e. problems for overseas residents, in particular), although I have no doubt that many will wrongly think they have to.

As I've previously mentioned, I've already come across the ludicrous situation of a PG location requiring age verification, which may well be a result of misinformation, driven by LL's failure to properly inform the community at large.

Because SL has always distanced itself from what happens on private estates- they'll say "we rent them the space and force them to use the content flags- after that, it's not our concern"

Mainland is *linden* controlled and they are responsible for what happened there- hence the G-team.

At least that's the way I *think* it works


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Heh- Got your seat all picked out for the end of the world, have you?

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Yep. this round is about sex and anything *leading* to sex. Next will be the stuff you can see on the Saturday afternoon monster movie.

Look out all you zombies, vampires and demons- they're coming for us next


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I'm not sure it's a big deal, but I don't think the Adult content category is fully redundant with the Adult maturity rating of the land.

(Disclaimer: I think Places Search is worse than worthless and the whole damned tab should be removed. I'm just following the logic here.)

So, suppose you want to find an Adult place on Ursula, after Ursula gets crowded with "Other" content that's not really "Adult". Ticking that Adult maturity level gets you to Ursula (and Adult estates), but doesn't effectively narrow the search results to content relevant to Adult interests.

This all stems from LL's seriously mistaken assumption that only Adult content will be on Adult-rated land. Even if it starts out that way by dint of extreme selectivity in the swap process, and even if no auctions are ever held for unused Ursula land, and even if Estate owners start out with perfectly sorted content, it wouldn't stay that way. Not for a month, even.

NOpe- businesses on adult parcels won't show up on pg or mature search no matter what language they use. if the store is marked "adult" then PG and Mature search won't include it


At least, that's my understanding of the changes

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A- we're not "hyper aggressive". We are refusing to react like the mushrooms LL thinks we are. We're pissed and we're actually trying to *Help* LL while we're helping ourselves.

B. They lost a lot more revenues in the openspace debacle than you think. where do you think the servers for Ursula are coming from, Hmm?



Well sure it would. But we all have questions, opinions and issues with these changes, and blondin is here to *listen* to us. At least, that's what LL *says* he's here to do. It's his *job* to wade through all this stuff, and he's accepted the task. don't blame him for LL's crapfest, but there's no reason to *cry* for him either.

As far as godwining is concerned- it's a matter of degree, but there are similarities- very *small* similarities, but they *are* numerous.

If I was asked to compare the two and explain how they are similar, I could go on for a while. But I don't do that because it cheapens the memory of the holocaust, and it causes people to quit thinking and start yelling.
I could also compare this to many other situations- all equally repugnant and all guaranteed to make people quit thinking and start yelling.

Lets not go there, K?

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They are "announcing" on the blog and the forums. That's a "public announcement" according to linden labs. we *really* need to figure out some sort of mass IM program that hits *everyone* in-world. or send a note-card to the entire user base with links to the blog and the forums.

The login screen is the only reasonable medium for a change this big- But LL won't use it. it might be worth getting banned to let everyone know what is happening here

Sadly, I don't have the skills.

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