Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

The clarification is *buying stuff on XStreet with real outside money*, not with L$.

So, give your views of zoning ...

What if the government decided to buy a few of your neighbors homes, right against your property line, and make it a sewage treatment plant or a jail?

The 1.23 RC is out:
http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php

and we have a scheduled server rolling restart too:
https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/release/blog/2009/04/29/rolling-restart-for-server-1263-april-30-and-may-5-6

Added...
Draft release notes for the new server version at:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.26

No idea how many people left but the grid shrank by over 20%. Over one out of five regions gone. Even if LL management could somehow not see this as a total screw up on their part, pretty much everybody else does.

Making Blondin's life easier isn't really a goal of mine. Sorry, Blondin..

Do you think there's ANY chance that LL didn't expect the reaction they're getting? How much of an investment would it have been for them to get a few more Lindens in here answering questions? Or maybe grab a couple engineer types for an hour and ask them how to most efficiently organize the answers (hello! you guys already have a wiki and forums.. make a wiki page.. make a locked thread that you can add answers to as they come out..) so this doesn't turn into a spam fest? How much work would it have taken YOU to figure out a better way to deal with this stuff?

No.. Blondin was offered up by LL as somebody for us to yell at. I have nothing against him personally at all and hope he's being paid really well. That doesn't mean he's not the official target, as designated by LL, though.

They keep saying they want business customers but they keep doing things that piss off their existing customers. I really hope they someday figure out that there might be a connection there...

Like that, did you?

The grid shrinking, and people leaving, are two different things. It has been pretty packed lately, even as the weather is getting warmer. As a consumer, I didn't like the way Open Space was handled. If I was a Linden executive I would give whomever came up with the idea a stern tongue lashing in public and a pay raise in private. My guess is that they turned a pretty penny.

Do I think the Lindens expected this response ... you bet. I also think the vague level of clerifications is quite intentional. They intend to build this on the fly, and very much like the odd decisions that get made at my work ... much is caused by committee discussions that have an agenda based more on politics than efficiency. I would also be willing to bet that the "clean up the mainland" agenda has a timetable that doesn't take into consideration our sensitivities.

Is there no one on this thread who understands the spelling difference between "affect" and "effect" ?
I swear I have seen "effect" misused by a half dozen people in this thread, and now the staff are doing it too. Sighhhhh
... Okay, sorry to have interrupted, but I just couldn't take it any longer.

I feel your pain.

[16:17] GreenKnight Kaul: Is this merely about advertising? Does this mean as long as i don't advertise my sex nooks, rooms, or the adult picture gallery, I will be ok to stay on mature? Yes they are publically accessable. Btw before i even started advertising i was getting an average weekly traffic of 500 because i hate the red security tape. Would that alone make me public? Answer: yes

Thank you for responding, but ran out of time before I could ask. Yes, what?

Yes I can keep these things in mature, as long as I don't advertise they exist? I can still advertise the property? And have these things available for use?

I can safely assume i am public because i advertise. But would the traffic count be enough to say it's public?

Hello Blondin,

I guess I didn't state this clearly. My apologies.

First of all, in Search, unverifieds/NOPOIFs will not be able to see the filtered words.

Second point, as we all know, there is a sizable chunk of SL users who cannot verify or have PIOF. Particularly non-USA users.

A gay user who cannot verify/PIOF has, naturally, a right to locate his community inworld. And the Lindens are not filtering the word gay, because they understand that gay people do not have sex 100% of the time and therefore the word gay itself represents a great deal more than a sexual moment.

However, 'BDSM' is currently a filter word. Yet a BDSMer likewise should be able to locate his community inworld, even a BDSMer who cannot verify/PIOF.

***** In fact, people in distressed countries, and/or in politically repressive nations, who cannot verify/PIOF, are those who most desperately NEED the emotional/informational support of their own subculture communities via Second Life. *****

That is why I am alarmed that Second Life's current list of filtered words includes words such as BDSM. The term BDSM in and of itself does not, um, automatically lead to inworld depictions of carnal intercourse or illegal drugs or intensive violence. So I don't understand why it's being inappropriately filtered, when the term "gay" is being appropriately treated.

I hope my restatement makes my concern more clear. Thank you for your attention.

What was the answer to "Yes, what?" ?

Many people on message boards and blogs tend to pound it out and hit send, typos and spelling errors be damned. There is not knowing the difference, and there is not giving a rat's donkey about being a punctuation paragon on a message board. As another poster once wrote, "If you understood it well enough to correct it, then I got my point across."

That said ... you might want to hook up with Pep, that posts in the Resident's Forum.

Q: Will those who move be able to have exactly the same size parcels on the new continent?

A: It's impossible really for us to have as wide a range of parcels available as you folks might be giving up on the mainland.

So clearly we're going to have to be prepared to edit parcels to the right size. If in moving across you decide that you're prepared to take a larger parcel then, within reason, we're quite happy for that to happen. We have no problem with that, as long as it isn't a crazy size difference, we'll be fine with taking a larger size.

If you want to keep the parcel you have on the old mainland, that's fine too. It'll be something that you tick in the ticket that you create, and we won't expect you to give up the mainland parcel. Obviously we will expect the adult content to have move from that.

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Blondin?
1. So, if I own almost a full sim now, I will be given the option of taking the land thats left in the sim after you move me?...to save you the hassle of breaking it up. should I add my request in the ticket?
2. At what cost per sqm since SL will be selling the land?

Currently I own 55246 sqm in two parcels separated by maintenence road...both with adult content, impossible to join.

3. Can you give us a close time frame to when SL will open up tickets for the move?
4. Should I give landmarks in the ticket to the parts in my sim that are adult? because the ground level is mostly nature themed.

P.S. It would only be fair to give me that option at a fair price, since I am paying full sim tier now and have been for quite a while....Thanks

Tickets?

Pardon me.. but if there's some kind of mass land-trade-in policy going into *E*ffect, perhaps, Oh I dunno, someone with the last name of "Linden" should make a post about it on the BLOG?

This is the first I've heard about this. (and this thread is now well over 6,700 posts long).

Is there some specific post or page where I can read about this policy?

This has been going on several weeks now and they refuse to make a login page annoucement until the very last minute and its been in the making for over a year now.
I'm posting the brown bag meeting urls ....read them so you see whats happening.

Originally Posted by Blondin Linden
Adult Oriented content controls: educator meeting transcript
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6284

Adult Oriented content controls: merchant meeting transcript
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6285

Adult Oriented content controls: landowner meeting transcript
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6286

Adult Oriented content controls: definitions meeting transcript
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6287

P.S. in the community official blog there are a few posts concerning this major change to SL

Blondin hasn't explained that wrinkle yet- Maybe LL has a team of trained psychics or something. Or maybe Carrier pigeons? Who knows?

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The majority of residents dont know anything about this but a lot of us have tried our best to spread the word......it's going to be one hell of a trip

Doing what I do in SL by being able to maintain full privacy, is exactly the reason why I joined SL: for a pleasurable, anonymous 'second' life, having chats with strangers about things I would never dare to raise with anyone I know in RL.
If in future, proof of ID in any shape or form was required, this will be a risk of accidental or intentional discovery for me and others. A risk I think I will coerce me to find alternatives to SL. The risk is too big.

If anyone ever found out what I do in SL, relatives, friends or acquaintances, my real life reputation would take a hammering.

Please, understand.

My guess would be that since an adult movie is what blondin thinks of when he thinks of "photorealistic nudity", that if somebody AR'd the lovely couple, they'd get the stick rather than the carrot.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

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Well, except up to a certain height- above that you're free as a bird '

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Heh same thing with Hard drives in computers. LL has gone completely batshit crazy with this stuff. inflicting on *adults* a list of "adult content" like something that you would use as "banned list for an elementary school.

Who are these "adults" that need to be "protected" from words that are in the *bible*?

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So the forums *will* be closing? NO venue to complain to LL about the restriction of Biblical terms and the like?

Blondin, you sound like a reasonable guy- you have to admit that filtering words that you can say on afternoon television is a bit much, don't you? I mean, someone has gone completely off the deep end here.

As it stands *church ladies* will be AR'd for using "adult language" on "mature" land. you'll have to set all the *churches* up on *Ursula!*

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That doesn't answer the question- WHat is this "other" category of which you speak? this is in the *docs* for the 1.23 viewer After 60 days the "adult" checkbox will be replaced by an "other" box.

What the hell does it *mean*

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I believe this is the last day for this thread..according to what Blondin said......"end of the month"

There hasn't been anything like that announced that I know of. If there *IS*, then it's furtherance of a fraud perpetrated by Linden Research Inc against its customers, and is actionable. they still haven't notified the majority of their users that there is *anything* happening.

The blog, the forum *THREAD*, and a couple quiet press releases don't count when you can put an announcement that reaches *all* of your users with a few keystrokes.

This is pretty cut-and-dried *concealment* of LL's plans, and it is something that will Bite LL on the ass when the time comes for us to ask for our money back.

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