What if a club in a Mature region wishes to advertise itself as "no nudity, no weapons, no roleplay"? Just sayin' this gets really silly without context.
exactly
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Phoenix Welles
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04-28-2009 14:44
What if a club in a Mature region wishes to advertise itself as "no nudity, no weapons, no roleplay"? Just sayin' this gets really silly without context. exactly http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-13032 |
Thorn Witrial
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04-28-2009 14:46
Any of you guys see this? It seems there are more surprises with the new viewer. http://www.starley.com/2009/04/the-future-of-skins.html Jesus tapdancing christ. *facepalms* Voted. |
angel6 Susanti
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Unanswered question
04-28-2009 14:51
hello everyone ![]() ![]() Dear Blondin, I asked this question yesterday, and whilst you have answered many questions before and after my posting, my question still remains unanswered ![]() angel6 Susanti |
Phoenix Welles
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04-28-2009 14:52
Any of you guys see this? It seems there are more surprises with the new viewer. http://www.starley.com/2009/04/the-future-of-skins.html voted |
Matthew Dowd
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04-28-2009 14:52
Why would Universities have to relocate to modify? That puzzled me too - I suppose if a University is on mainland and wishes to advertise "sex education" or research on "breast cancer" etc. then they would need to move to Adult to get around the search filters, or have read the new definitions for PG and now feel they need to move to mature. However, most Universities are on private islands so wouldn't need to move. They may feel that they do need to flag themselves as adult however because of the search filters, that some of their content might be deemed sexual (gender studies, lesbian and gay issues etc.) or violent (any graphic medical text book image) enough to be adult, or because they don't want to be responsible for their students behaviour. On the other hand flagging themselves as adult both means that a) they are associating themselves with non-education adult activities b) anyone who is able to visit them has to switch off the protection from non-education adult activities (which actually defeats the whole purpose of this exercise). Matthew |
Blondin Linden
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04-28-2009 14:52
First: Please give a reason in the edit summary (can even be a link to a forum thread) when you delete an article. It will inform the ones who are not following forum discussions (like me). I'm sorry Zai, I didn't know. You do great work with the wiki by the way. |
DanielRavenNest Noe
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Funky results from search
04-28-2009 14:55
Ciaran made some comments about how search worked, so I did some more testing.
I get strange results: Test 1: Search for "escorts": --------------------------------- Website/all of SL: 2940 results Client/all tab/PG checkbox : 2940 Client/all tab/PG+Mature : 3530 Client/all tab/Mature : 1240 Client/all tab/Adult : 2290 Cleint/all tab/Adult + Mature: 3470 Client/all tab/PG + Mature + Adult: 5950 First, this shows there are *three* levels in search, with unknown criteria used for each level. Second: The results totals do not add up. Individual categories of PG, Mature, and Adult gives 2940 + 1240 + 2290 = 6470 While using all three checkboxes gives 5950 Test 2: search for "hardcore", on website/places ------------------------------------------------------ Gives 93 results. Last result on first page reads: maN Mall - Mens Fashion Mall ... Muscle Rising - Bodybuilder Poses - Vendor Set - muscle worship workout fitness exercise man male men flex bicep gay sex erotic sexy sensual hardcore (175, 67 ... Sex and erotic are flagged as adult words. It's one of the items for sale, not the land description |
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04-28-2009 14:55
Any of you guys see this? It seems there are more surprises with the new viewer. http://www.starley.com/2009/04/the-future-of-skins.html Just wow. _____________________
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Blondin Linden
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04-28-2009 14:55
Whilst you're at it tell us what's going on with search now that profiles are being censored on the website search, when will places meet the same fate? A place selling Gorean buildings won't consider themselves as adult in many cases, same goes for clothing so tell people what's going on so they can adjust their keywords hey. The SL Website will only return PG search results. |
Prilis Boa
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04-28-2009 14:58
One of the few rules of our sim at fetish network is we ban people who support discrimination or behave in a discriminatory nature outside of RP.
I would like to know if anyone has a comprehensive list of all current Lindens as obviously they are in breach of this rule and I need to add them to the ban list ASAP. Please IM me if you have such a list. Thanks. |
Couldbe Yue
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04-28-2009 15:00
lol they're clearing out all the smut at a time the US look like overturning the online gambling ban..
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Matthew Dowd
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04-28-2009 15:02
Just wow. The latest build (24 April) also seems to remove the ability to remove the search bar in the menu and display the (much more useful) lag meters. Hopefully this is just a temporary lapse (or else the configuration option has moved to somewhere I've not spotted). Matthew |
Lasher Oh
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04-28-2009 15:03
Any of you guys see this? It seems there are more surprises with the new viewer. http://www.starley.com/2009/04/the-future-of-skins.html Pouring gas on a raging fire now - proof the lunatics have taken over the asylum Does anyone recall that wonderful movie 'Network' with the Mad Prophet of the airways who urged everyone to go to their windows and shout out loud and clear "I'M as Mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" |
Ciaran Laval
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04-28-2009 15:03
The SL Website will only return PG search results. PG search inworld should do the same, they are not yielding the same results, someone is tinkering with the website search. I just want to know where this tinkering is heading. |
Kalderi Tomsen
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04-28-2009 15:03
Darien, here is a direct quote from a Linden that supports my thesis. This whole pogrom is "the first step". They aren't getting it right, and that in itself has got almost everyone (of the minority who actually know about it) upset, and rightly so. But it's that "first step" that really worries me. Yes: Linden Lab plans to ban all adult content from Second Life. That's the goal that this is the "first step" toward. _____________________
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Blondin Linden
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04-28-2009 15:05
Blondin - I STILL want an answer here - In post #4640 You said: "A BDSM club would be adult A Store selling BDSM gear would be mature" In post #4646 You said: (in regards to sex animations being sold in stores) "We understand people would want to test out products before they buy them. This is expected and reasonable on a mature region" BY YOUR WORDS you just made our store, selling BDSM devices, some of which have sex functions. MATURE IN THE STORE. Then explain to me WHY THE FRACK THE SLOWLY BEING DISCOVERED LIST OF 'VERBOTEN' WORDS INCLUDES - BDSM, Bondage, Dominatrix, Domme, Dungeon, Ponygirl, Ponyplay, Fetish, Submissive NONE OF WHICH ARE A SEXUAL TERM BUT SURE HAS HELL WIPE OUT EVERY MEANINGFUL REFERENCE TO BDSM STORES! WHAT KIND OF SHELL GAME IS BEING PLAYED HERE? SOME HONEST ANSWERS FOR ONCE!!!!Blondin - And DON'T TELL me the list was INACCURATE... I tried it myself! If your store relies on using words that have been flagged as adult then your store will need to be on Adult land. If your BDSM store does not rely on using flagged words, then your store is fine on Mature. |
Blondin Linden
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04-28-2009 15:08
I think the idea was that a store that was primarily not sexually oriented that had some sexually oriented items for sale would be able to stay and advertise in mature land. Blondin? That is correct. |
DanielRavenNest Noe
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04-28-2009 15:08
One of the few rules of our sim at fetish network is we ban people who support discrimination or behave in a discriminatory nature outside of RP. I would like to know if anyone has a comprehensive list of all current Lindens as obviously they are in breach of this rule and I need to add them to the ban list ASAP. Please IM me if you have such a list. Thanks. Open Search/People, enter "Linden" in the white box |
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04-28-2009 15:09
If your store relies on using words that have been flagged as adult then your store will need to be on Adult land. If your BDSM store does not rely on using flagged words, then your store is fine on Mature. So if you use BDSM to describe your BDSM store, or if it is named BDSM Store, then you need to move, close up shop, or become very creative with words. _____________________
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Matthew Dowd
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Adult filters JIRA
04-28-2009 15:11
Could I point out the following jira meta
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4149 for terms incorrectly used in the adult filters. Hence if you sell, or host events about, or advertise things such as blue tits British foods including faggots and gravy cars such as the Ford Escort characters in x-files such as Deep Throat farmyard animals such as hens and cocks or wish to include No Sex as a clear instruction in your lands description etc. etc. please a) check the above jira to see if it links to an issue for the particular keyword causing you problems - if there is such an issue vote for it and add a slurl to the location causing problems to that issue b) if not, add a new jira issue for the particular keyword causing you problems including a slurl to your location c) link that new issue to the above meta issue. Matthew |
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04-28-2009 15:11
They aren't being hidden. In fact, they will be on display for anyone who wants to find it. We are simply taking steps to ensure that those who participate are allowed to be there. I'm getting confused about what Linden Labs is trying to achieve. _____________________
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Brieanne Bomazi
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I'm just sayin.....*I* am Adult Content
04-28-2009 15:12
The SL Website will only return PG search results. Then can you please explain this to me? Please use search in the viewer to view mature listings. Results 1 - 10 of about 3140 for escorts (0.043044 seconds) I searched at http://search.secondlife.com/search.php Now, i go into world, and mature checked, and get: Results 1 - 10 of about 7030 for escorts (0.065391 seconds) So... you have, currently, 3140 NON MATURE listings for ESCORTS. How about instead of changing the rules, and shoving us all in the corner like non-loved-red-headed-step-children-of-the-corn-smut-peddlers.... You simply ENFORCE the rules as they stand? I mean SERIOUSLY! Punish those of us following the rules, while posting ways to get around the *filtered* words.... but LL isn't trying to get rid of us, and make it *more predictable?* Your basically going to run all legit places, following the rules, out of business with your rules and regulations, while the Gteam is constantly chasing down AR's on people that DON'T Follow the rules, while the PN's and griefers reign havoc on everyone still on mainland. <sarcasm> Great Call LL. Just great. </sarcasm> |
Prilis Boa
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04-28-2009 15:14
Open Search/People, enter "Linden" in the white box ...but I don't want to type or copy every single lindening linden, theres too many of the lindens |
Matthew Dowd
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04-28-2009 15:14
So if you use BDSM to describe your BDSM store, or if it is named BDSM Store, then you need to move, close up shop, or become very creative with words. Actually if you are borderline adult, you need to move even if LL does not regard your activity as adult enough, just in order to be able to use the keywords available to your competitors (and just because a keyword is not in the filter at the moment doesn't mean that it will not be added later). Blondin - this is another reason why LL should not turn down anyone on mature mainland wishing to move. Matthew |
Blondin Linden
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04-28-2009 15:17
I'm trying to figure out why ANY words have to be banned...doesnt the new viewer have a checkbox to filter out adult words? Seems to me that people who dont want to see that in search wont by just checking that naughty box...doesnt make sense. A better alternative would be to have two viewers...one for npiof and not verified then one for piof and or verified...once a npiof gets verified they get upgraded to the full viewer. They aren't banned. They are filtered so that only verified accounts can search for them. |