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Gracie Goldflake
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Join date: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 4
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04-28-2009 11:58
They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. That would then be a change from what was said earlier? I thought the option was to "apply" for a land swap and hope that it is granted. Now, it is our choice instead? Great news, Blondin. Or did I misread what you just wrote? |
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Jamie David
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2006
Posts: 123
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04-28-2009 11:58
Why do people who's description would mean they should be Adult rated have to change their description? Why cant they just be moved to Adult land instead They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. As far as I understand it..... If they are on a private sim they can stay where they are.. If they are on "Linden land" or "Main Land" then if they want to have "Adult" content. They need to be on the Adult continent. From what I have gathered so far. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. The Person must first buy land on the new continent and then move their content and sell the land on mainland. I have not heard of any offers by the lindens to 1 transfer ownership of land from the PG/Mature Mainland to the Adult New sex continent. 2 Transfer the prims to the new place. |
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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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04-28-2009 11:59
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,870
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04-28-2009 11:59
I think the list of words is probably on the server side, which is why we can't see them and have to figure them out via testing. If it was actually in the 1.23 viewer, somebody could just read the source. In other words, the list can change any time without us knowing it. Just because a word is (or isn't) in there today doesn't mean it won't be there (or removed) 10 minutes from now. But at least we still have a list that can be cut and pasted and tested as needed and then updated on the independent wiki _____________________
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Akira Luminos
*I* Am Adult Content
Join date: 19 Mar 2009
Posts: 41
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Adult keyword search list
04-28-2009 12:00
Hey All, I deleted the SL Wiki page about the Adult Key Words. I just wanted to give you a heads up. The list was incorrect anyway so we decided to take it down. Would LL kindly please post a complete 'correct' version then? If you're having trouble finding the list there, you may want to borrow ours, at: http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_Keywords |
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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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04-28-2009 12:01
I think the list of words is probably on the server side, which is why we can't see them and have to figure them out via testing. If it was actually in the 1.23 viewer, somebody could just read the source. In other words, the list can change any time without us knowing it. Just because a word is (or isn't) in there today doesn't mean it won't be there (or removed) 10 minutes from now. But at least we still have a list that can be cut and pasted and tested as needed and then updated on the independent wiki I was only responding to what looked like somebody saying that the word list was embedded in the viewer.. _____________________
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Ann Otoole
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Join date: 22 May 2007
Posts: 867
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04-28-2009 12:01
Oh great. I bet the escorts pile into my "If you seek Amy" fan club group.
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Tcko Cazalet
Less Freedom=Exodus
Join date: 16 May 2007
Posts: 163
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scratches head
04-28-2009 12:01
I'm trying to figure out why ANY words have to be banned...doesnt the new viewer have a checkbox to filter out adult words?
Seems to me that people who dont want to see that in search wont by just checking that naughty box...doesnt make sense. A better alternative would be to have two viewers...one for npiof and not verified then one for piof and or verified...once a npiof gets verified they get upgraded to the full viewer. |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-28-2009 12:02
Then that should have been what he said, instead of the moronic spin about it being "inaccurate anyway".  _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-28-2009 12:03
They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. [That was a rhetorical question] _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-28-2009 12:04
LMAO it was slapt _____________________
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GreenKnight Kaul
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Join date: 24 Apr 2008
Posts: 55
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04-28-2009 12:05
Wouldn't that be the Odder Limits? LOL yes, much better. But Odder suggests things a bit off the norm, may offend someone with that. _____________________
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Kalderi Tomsen
Nomad Extraordinaire!
Join date: 10 May 2007
Posts: 888
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04-28-2009 12:06
Would LL kindly please post a complete 'correct' version then? _____________________
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Jamie David
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Join date: 8 Jun 2006
Posts: 123
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04-28-2009 12:09
Why do people who's description would mean they should be Adult rated have to change their description? Why cant they just be moved to Adult land instead They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. As far as I understand it..... If they are on a private sim they can stay where they are.. If they are on Linden owned "Main Land" then if they want to have "Adult" content. They need to be on the Adult continent. From what I have gathered so far. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. The Person must first buy land on the new continent and then move their content and sell the land on mainland. I have not heard of any offers by the lindens to 1 transfer ownership of land from the PG/Mature Mainland to the Adult New sex continent. 2 Transfer the prims to the new place. 3 Cover the double Tier costs while the move is being made and there might be an issue of having to pay for a full month no matter what. One could sell first holding he inventory and then buy which would save one from paying double tier. So I believe that it would be up to the person to cover the costs. I would expect to see Mainland land prices drop dramatically as the market floods with all those who are forced to move. As far as moving the buildings/prims etc there are ways that are not too hard where one could move and entire sim. Some are free some have costs. If I got any of this wrong please someone correct me. |
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
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04-28-2009 12:09
I'm trying to figure out why ANY words have to be banned...doesnt the new viewer have a checkbox to filter out adult words? Yes, that's what it actually is, words that are filtered out of PG and Mature searches. If your account is verified, and you set the viewer to let you access Adult Content, you can search for those words. _____________________
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Vance Adder
Registered User
Join date: 29 Jan 2009
Posts: 402
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04-28-2009 12:11
So on the whole I can expect my SL experience to get even worse. I can expect my in-world experience to be even less predictable. I can experience the annoyance of not being able to find what I want without testing euphemisms and alternate spellings to locate censored content. I can expect some of my beloved content creators and hangouts to go private or close their doors. Looks like this is the direction everything is headed.
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Hypatia Meili
Tilting at Windmills? :p
Join date: 2 Aug 2007
Posts: 149
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The answers do not seem to match.
04-28-2009 12:12
Well ... my store is PG. It's on PG mainland by choice, because I wanted to avoid a repeat of the situation at my previous (mature) location where I suddenly found myself in the middle of hardcore sex clubs. Now, I make and sell European songbirds. Tits, mostly. Great tits, blue tits, marsh tits, willow tits, varied tits, more tits to come. Assuming you want to consider everything mentioning "tits" anywhere to be adult, what would you have me do? -- Move my completely PG store to Ursula? -- Change my parcel description / classified texts / etc. to not mention any tits, even though they are one of the main parts of my business? If I choose to be on PG land, and I choose to mark my classifieds as PG (i.e. not mark them mature or adult), then it's because my store is PG and so is the text of my classifieds. You're not really going to tell me that I cannot mention that I make and sell tits outside of Ursula or to non-age-verified residents anymore, are you? No doubt that the content wold be PG, but the word TITS would be flagged and your ad would only found by verified accounts. If it applies to allowed BDSM items then, then to run such an ad for TITS would also mean moving to Adult. Blondin, Did you mean to say "You have to move or not use the word TITS"? The way you are answering these questions is adding to the confusion. Your answer to Mosley seem to say the ad would be OK. But the following DOES NOT!  If you plan on using Adult words in your ads / search, 1) the place / event will need to be on an adult region and 2) only verified accounts will be able to search and find those key words. Unfortunately it is also a rather BIG pain in the gluteus maximus!  |
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Shockwave Yareach
Registered User
Join date: 4 Oct 2006
Posts: 370
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Something just ocurred to me
04-28-2009 12:15
With all this BS from the Lindens and harassment on the mainland, why would anyone want to have land on the mainland in the first place?
Come rent on an island. It's pricier, yes - but less hassle. Plus you can terraform the land more than on Mainland. Come to the islands, where freedom to be you still reigns supreme! |
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
Posts: 1,011
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04-28-2009 12:17
I'm trying to figure out why ANY words have to be banned...doesnt the new viewer have a checkbox to filter out adult words? Seems to me that people who dont want to see that in search wont by just checking that naughty box...doesnt make sense. A better alternative would be to have two viewers...one for npiof and not verified then one for piof and or verified...once a npiof gets verified they get upgraded to the full viewer. The reason is because not all of us can go to Ursula, so they are trying to dumb down adult on the mainland. |
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Darien Caldwell
Registered User
Join date: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,127
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04-28-2009 12:19
Darien, I understand your position and actually agree with it. But while I understand that you agree with the broad goals of LL, your reasons for agreeing with this *particular* plan seem to be no more than "It is what LL is offering" or "It is all I am Likely to get". You want LL to do *something*, and this plan qualifies as "something, so, by definition, better than nothing". Am I understanding you correctly? Please let me know if I am not, okay? I'd submit that those aren't very good reasons to support *this particular plan*. You say point-blank that you don't like many of the features of this plan. from what I see, that is the way *most* of us feel. We aren't sitting here saying "We want to show porn to kids!" we're saying- "PLease don't do this. it won't work and in some cases make things *worse*. Here are a few ideas that we think will work better" We *agree* with the impulse, by and large, but we disagree with the execution, and we don;t trust linden labs to do the right thing, or the *smart* thing- because we've repeatedly seem them choose the *worst* possible way to do things over *anything* better- Even something that just "isn't the worst way". So to recap- Agree with the need and the want to do something about it, but think that the proposed solutions are a catastrophically bad idea, and would like to see something *else* implemented instead.  -V- I can't disagree with your assessment. But I'm agreeing with it because I choose to, not because I have no choice. I do have a choice. As the saying goes I could 'pack up my crap and leave." And that option is still not off the table. I support it because I think it can work, I think it's a reasonable compromise (and think about it, LL is giving up as much as they are getting), and I think in the end everyone will benefit. I know it's hard to see that now, but over the years I've learned to trust my gut, and that's what my gut is telling me, right now anyway. I don't agree this is the worst possible way. And I've not really seen a reasonable alternative offered. Making a PG continent, flat out won't work. Chopping up the experience so people can just tune out every little thing that offends them, I have big problems with. I haven't seen any alternate plan for age verifying at all. It's easy to say "LL you are doing it wrong!", but it's very, very hard to say "This is a better plan" and lay out all the details, especially when you aren't privy to all the pressures and ramifications LL is likely facing. I can only guess at what those may be, But I'm a pretty good guesser. _____________________
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Taly Fluffy
Registered User
Join date: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 32
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04-28-2009 12:19
Well ... my store is PG. It's on PG mainland by choice... Now, I make and sell European songbirds. Tits, mostly... Assuming you want to consider everything mentioning "tits" anywhere to be adult, what would you have me do? -- Move my completely PG store to Ursula? -- Change my parcel description / classified texts / etc. to not mention any tits, even though they are one of the main parts of my business? You're not really going to tell me that I cannot mention that I make and sell tits outside of Ursula or to non-age-verified residents anymore, are you? No doubt that the content would be PG, but the word TITS would be flagged and your ad would only found by verified accounts. Dear Blondin, Today you said: "If you plan on using Adult words in your ads / search, 1) the place / event will need to be on an adult region" ...Don't you mean, then, that on PG land the tit-seller will be technically _unable_ to put that word in his ad at all -- and he must move to the adult continent in order to be able to physically run an ad with the word "tit" in it? Please clarify this point. Thank you very much. |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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04-28-2009 12:21
As far as I understand it..... If they are on a private sim they can stay where they are.. . Only if the island owner agrees to flag the whole island as adult, meaning every other parcel will only be found by those who are able to tick the adult content search option. |
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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04-28-2009 12:21
Blondin, and the Lindens...
I'd like you to think hard about something. People use SL for entertainment. Ban sex, ban cartoon violence, and you eliminate a major source of entertainment. One that people spend thousands of hours, and thousands of dollars, making content for. Good content. Tasteful (in its context) content. Content that matters. But...ban a popular form of entertainment, and people will make their own fun. They always have. But it won't be thoughtful, or tasteful. It will be spur-of-the-moment, on-the-fly fun. In other words: practical jokes. Would you like to see an example? Go visit the Waterhead Welcome Area. This is the sort of behavior that you are encouraging. When SL becomes a wasteland of corporate sims and advertising, the avatars still around will be those you see at Waterhead...the spammers, the crazies. They are the ones who will populate your squeaky clean world. Because they can have "fun" anywhere. Think about that. _____________________
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Minx Eisenhart
~Simply Orgasmic~
Join date: 21 Apr 2008
Posts: 130
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04-28-2009 12:22
anyone have a link to the 1.23 viewer?
when i go to the DL page i ge the 1.22.11 test viewer _____________________
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Thorn Witrial
Registered User
Join date: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 237
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04-28-2009 12:22
Here's an article about possible bans on people with Openlife accounts. anybody have any other info? Who is this Miley person?
http://foo.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2009/02/open-life-users-banned-from-second-life.html |