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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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04-28-2009 11:20
Hey...i am not making these rules and I am totally against the adult content seperation that is going on. I am just making an observation that if a gor sim is all about sexual slavery as many if not most of them are, than it too should be considered adult....its just common sense. /me forms a new movement in SL called.. wait for it... Gar, which is EXACTLY like Gor but spelled differently. /me also trademarks Gir, Ger and Gur. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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04-28-2009 11:24
Hey...i am not making these rules and I am totally against the adult content seperation that is going on. I am just making an observation that if a gor sim is all about sexual slavery as many if not most of them are, than it too should be considered adult....its just common sense. No, I don't see it that way. If it's "common sense" for Gorean sims, it's "common sense" for nearly every Mature sim on the grid. Yes, there is adult content and situations in Gor. There are ALSO adult content and situations going on everywhere else. By resident estimate, about 50% of the mainland qualifies as "adult content" under LL's definitions. I don't hold with slavery, I don't do Gor. But once again, LL is wielding far too broad a brush. _____________________
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Tcko Cazalet
Less Freedom=Exodus
Join date: 16 May 2007
Posts: 163
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work around
04-28-2009 11:24
Most successful businesses have some group or customer database. One way to be able to sell and still be under the blanket would be to give names like Gor or BDSM a one letter meaning...like G silks or B equipment.....I'm sure they can't tag the whole alphabet ^ ^
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-28-2009 11:29
Blondin - I STILL want an answer here - In post #4640 You said: "A BDSM club would be adult A Store selling BDSM gear would be mature" In post #4646 You said: (in regards to sex animations being sold in stores) "We understand people would want to test out products before they buy them. This is expected and reasonable on a mature region" BY YOUR WORDS you just made our store, selling BDSM devices, some of which have sex functions. MATURE IN THE STORE. Then explain to me WHY THE FRACK THE SLOWLY BEING DISCOVERED LIST OF 'VERBOTEN' WORDS INCLUDES - BDSM, Bondage, Dominatrix, Domme, Dungeon, Ponygirl, Ponyplay, Fetish, Submissive NONE OF WHICH ARE A SEXUAL TERM BUT SURE HAS HELL WIPE OUT EVERY MEANINGFUL REFERENCE TO BDSM STORES! WHAT KIND OF SHELL GAME IS BEING PLAYED HERE? Blondin? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-28-2009 11:30
Because the SL web sites were PG even before this all started? _____________________
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Meade Paravane
Hedgehog
Join date: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 4,845
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04-28-2009 11:32
You know, that would actually make sense. Heretic! _____________________
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Ilana Debevec
Registered User
Join date: 25 May 2007
Posts: 130
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04-28-2009 11:32
I think the idea was that a store that was primarily not sexually oriented that had some sexually oriented items for sale would be able to stay and advertise in mature land. Blondin? OH BLONDIN! THE SMEGGING WEB SEARCH IS DOING THE SAME THING.. SO THE INACCURATE WORD LIST YOU DELETED WAS ACCURATE!!! |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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04-28-2009 11:33
well Hell... have a lookit my profile in world... and what i have said all along is true.. *I* am Adult content! but when i search my name... i still come up... and my profile PLAINLY says i am an escort... so.....*blinks* Search on the website, you don't have a HTML link inworld or on the website but search for Brieanne on the website, you do not show. |
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DanielRavenNest Noe
Registered User
Join date: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,076
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04-28-2009 11:33
If you plan on using Adult words in your ads / search, 1) the place / event will need to be on an adult region and 2) only verified accounts will be able to search and find those key words. How can she plan to do that, when you deleted the list of adult words? (Yes, Blondin himself deleted the page I created listing adult search keywords) Fortunately, it's mirrored at: http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_Keywords |
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Valentine Young
Registered User
Join date: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 37
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Dahh!
04-28-2009 11:35
I believe it's best that if you want to access adult content after the policy is in place, you verify your account and do it that way. I don't believe the banned words list will be particuarly useful for that purpose. Am able to & have visited the new Adult landing area! Am PIU. Do like to search for my adult interests, and when LL takes away options, will find a way to find what am looking for. A (non LL) thesaurus for Adult words, will help everyone in their quest in SL: developers, marketers, residents, everyone. SL is a game, yes, and the residents play the game. LL has introduced new elements: search suppression, hiding RP groups, sequestering Adult activities, boarder line discrimination, introduced "Fascism" defined as "a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology" into SL by their Adult content initiative. Human kind may be suppressed for a time, but not forever. Resist and the bureaucracy will collapse under its own weight. Witness the USSR and the walk away from the Berlin wall in 1989. |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-28-2009 11:41
You know, that would actually make sense. Then that should have been what he said, instead of the moronic spin about it being "inaccurate anyway".  Of course we KNEW that it wasn't going to last; that was the point of the exercise, because we KNEW that they would continue to go down this path of idiocy, and it made them predictable. To LL: Hiding filtered search terms is pure idiocy on several levels. "But we're trying to prevent gaming!" You FAIL. There's NO WAY to hide filtered search words, simply because the nature of search allows you to determine them empirically with a simple DICTIONARY METHOD. Something those propeller-heads of yours who actually, you know, WORK on the search engine probably told you management drones numerous times, but it just didn't sink in. We KNEW the page wouldn't last, and we also KNEW that you would spin some cockamamie reason why it would be deleted. You prove us right again. Thanks! I can imagine just how bad it is to work at LL now... Dilbertism rules the day. |
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Thorn Witrial
Registered User
Join date: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 237
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Omgwtf????
04-28-2009 11:41
I received an alarming IM from someone while I was offline saying that Linden Lab is finding and deleting accounts of people they know have an OpenLife account. Is this true? O.O;;;;
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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04-28-2009 11:43
I received an alarming IM from someone while I was offline saying that Linden Lab is finding and deleting accounts of people they know have an OpenLife account. Is this true? O.O;;;; Highly unlikely. |
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Ann Otoole
Registered User
Join date: 22 May 2007
Posts: 867
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04-28-2009 11:44
I received an alarming IM from someone while I was offline saying that Linden Lab is finding and deleting accounts of people they know have an OpenLife account. Is this true? O.O;;;; Recurring rumor every time the debate heats up on the latest policy Katrina storm LL lays on the community. Find some people to provide testimony and prove it and things will be different. Assuming, of course, they didn't get banned for other activities LL did not care for. |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-28-2009 11:44
I received an alarming IM from someone while I was offline saying that Linden Lab is finding and deleting accounts of people they know have an OpenLife account. Is this true? O.O;;;; Oh, I sure hope so! They need to get on with this train wreck so we have more incentive to get off of it. |
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DanielRavenNest Noe
Registered User
Join date: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,076
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04-28-2009 11:44
Why is it not accurate? It is posted on a Linden site? Is LindenLab putting out false information? Where is the correct information on any of this to be found. all I can see is one place one thing is said and somewhere else or some one else says another. Never is it the same! It was posted on the wiki site, which by design allows *anyone* to edit it. I created the page in the first place, and entered about half the words on the page. The ones I put in there I discovered by using an early version of the 1.23 client software, unchecking the adult checkbox on search/places, and trying words one by one. So a careful description of what was listed is: "A partial list of words which are currently flagged in search in the 1.23 client" Until someone does an entire dictionary test, it won't be complete. And by human nature, I would be the first to admit I might have made some mistakes, since I did it manually. |
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Blondin Linden
Linden Lab Employee
Join date: 2 Jun 2008
Posts: 381
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04-28-2009 11:46
Blondin, I can only assume you missed my question because of all the posts! SO here goes again ... ----------------------- Why do people who's description would mean they should be Adult rated have to change their description? Why cant they just be moved to Adult land instead? They can. That will be their choice if they want to move. |
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Bhakta Thor
Escape from RL
Join date: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 291
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what?
04-28-2009 11:46
Am able to & have visited the new Adult landing area! Am PIU. What is PIU? |
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GreenKnight Kaul
Registered User
Join date: 24 Apr 2008
Posts: 55
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04-28-2009 11:46
There is nothing wrong with your Computer. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling what you're viewing. If we wish to make it better, we will. If we wish to make it worse, we will. We will control your content. We will control your actions. We can shut down your region, or disable your scripts. We can change your viewer settings to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the rest of your second life, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat, there is nothing wrong with your computer. You are about to participate in a “pg-17” rated adventure. You are about to experience the predictability of which reaches from the Linden mind to... The SL Limits.
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"I am not just an avatar, I am a human being behind the avatar"
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Ayla Holt
Registered User
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 70
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04-28-2009 11:46
I received an alarming IM from someone while I was offline saying that Linden Lab is finding and deleting accounts of people they know have an OpenLife account. Is this true? O.O;;;; How would they know if people had openlife accounts and why would they do that? I'm pretty sure thats not true. I haven't been deleted. I haven't used my openlife accounts for months but I have an account there. |
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Jamie David
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2006
Posts: 123
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04-28-2009 11:51
Why is it not accurate? It is posted on a Linden site? Is LindenLab putting out false information? Where is the correct information on any of this to be found. all I can see is one place one thing is said and somewhere else or some one else says another. Never is it the same! It was posted on the wiki site, which by design allows *anyone* to edit it. I created the page in the first place, and entered about half the words on the page. The ones I put in there I discovered by using an early version of the 1.23 client software, unchecking the adult checkbox on search/places, and trying words one by one. So a careful description of what was listed is: "A partial list of words which are currently flagged in search in the 1.23 client" Until someone does an entire dictionary test, it won't be complete. And by human nature, I would be the first to admit I might have made some mistakes, since I did it manually. So it was accurate. Posted by a resident not a linden.  But because it was accurate it was removed.  Yes that would make perfect sense. Not that anything said so far makes sense. |
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,870
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04-28-2009 11:51
1) Perhaps LL should correct the list and publish it themselves. 2) Do believe an alternate copy of the list was create, Please post the address again! Thumbs nose to Blondin. 3) Perhaps a Notecard should be made available on XStreet, for 0L$ with banned words and alternative spellings to find adult products. Could also be handed out all over SL, and at landing areas. History shows, for every act of suppression, a populace will find the way to express themselves and find birds of a feather. Blondin, your on a very slippery slope! Wiki is in my sig line _____________________
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Shockwave Yareach
Registered User
Join date: 4 Oct 2006
Posts: 370
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Experimental terms
04-28-2009 11:53
Gorean => GO koREAN
BDSM => beady essem Rape => RAY Pit Bondage => BONDo cabbAGE F*** => Feed dUCKs Sex => SEKS Cum => COME Cock => CrOCKpot Pen*s => PEN IS mighter than the sword Oh yes... your restrictions on keywords in ads works very well. The total absence of SPAM in my Inbox is proof of how infallible the keyword tech has become. No doubt there is no SPAM in any email boxes at Linden Lab either. Every search term you ban will have 10 l33t, misspelled, or two-word analogs. Of course you can always ban every such thing as you find them. But then you'll have to explain why you banned everyone at a Catholic sim for singing "Oh Come all ye Faithful" next Xmas. And the last time I checked, you couldn't be sent to Pornsylvania for advertising a place to Feed dUCKS until you are dizzy. |
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Shockwave Yareach
Registered User
Join date: 4 Oct 2006
Posts: 370
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04-28-2009 11:54
The SL Limits. Wouldn't that be the Odder Limits? |
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Lord Sullivan
DTC at all times :)
Join date: 15 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,870
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04-28-2009 11:55
I guess that page got "slapt". LMAO it was slapt _____________________
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