Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I know. Which is why it's important to me to get Blondin's answers now. In writing. (As I am *trying* to report back to my Boss on this.)

I am not sure exactly what we are going to do, since thus far I've gotten no feedback from the apparently "official" source (Blondin) - but there is no way in Hades we are flagging ourselves Adult and block our sims to unverified people or misrepresent what we offer by accepting such a flagging. We are *aiming* for as little change as possible. We set the sims up the way we did because our residents *like* it that way. We have a good rapport with them, and they give us their input on what they'd like to see and the ROMA experience they'd like to have. And we are going to be stubborn about keeping it that way. If we are forced to remove some features from the sims to comply with the new rules, we're going to make damned sure our residents know who forced that move.

But - if we manage to have our cake and eat it too - you'll be the first to know it.

Hey All,

I deleted the SL Wiki page about the Adult Key Words. I just wanted to give you a heads up. The list was incorrect anyway so we decided to take it down.

Or even at the expense of making our SL experience so byzantine and convoluted that even the TSA would blink.

*For those playing in Europe, The TSA (Thugs Standing Around) is our Transportation Safety Administration. The nice folks who make US Airports such happy and friendly places.

Jesus Christ Blondin you have /got/ to be kidding me. Now we are all compelled to immediately abandon the official wiki for /all/ purposes and build a proper wiki that is not subject to arbitrary deletion by an unstoppable power.

The /correct/ response would be to /fix/ the list not delete it.

I will do that.

Yes i do agree with you Elanthuis there are always the scum of the adult business as in any business, i would also imagine this will affect you with maybe land prices crashing, but i don't know enough about your market to make a valid comment, I just see a lot of people from land owners to adult businesses as well as as some PG businesses being affected, in fact I think this will have far reaching effects for all, but maybe not a sky is falling sort of way, but its going to be a long time before we all recover, if some even do

Which is why I never updated their wiki ... they can Lindening do that. Then combine that when they say the list is inaccurate .... when their own servers block the terms.

Hmm, maybe we should double-check all the entries on the other wiki to make sure they are still filtered/nonfiltered?

Please Blondin, can you answer me here?

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If the answer is "no", if I can be ARed and be punished because some Linden didn't think that my land is adult enoguh to take the swap, I will simply give up. I will not pay LL to maintain a knife on my neck. I will loose the land that I was working on for the last 2 years, LL will loose my tiers and premium accounts.

I'll continue as a basic account - much cheaper, but with a less rewarding experience.

I asked earlier but don't think there was an answer: Of all the feedback you've gotten so far about this project, can you make a rough guess as the how much supports the project vs how much is against it?

I think we all know that there's not _zero_ support for this project. It just seems to be that LL keeps saying "lots" but, well, it's close to 'in the noise' from what I see. That and most of the supporters I've talked to don't understand that there are some serious issues with it...

Unfortunately they have said any decisions about not being banned to Linden Land are purely up to the investigating Linden. You could be fine one day, change nada on your land, another linden responds to an AR, and find that they think you should be adult.

It's not the crash so much as the uncertainty. It's not clear what will happen. Probably mainland prices will fall but AO land prices will fluctuate wildly. In times of uncertainty risk is higher and I'll only buy land where the probability of a profit is very high.

It'll mess up estates too, lots of turmoil with people being evicted, sims being abandoned, mainland prices will be cheap and that will suck away customers. We froze all estate expansion until this thing and the Homestead pricing increase shake out. I'm sure others are doing the same.

In my opinion people aren't talking enough about the effect printing 300 mainland sims and evicting all adult businesses will have on the land market. Probably it's only really very important to the few of us who are big into land.

'Stable Mistress of Frilly Filly Farm'

'mistress' may fall foul of the BDSM category before we get close to the frilly bit...


Quote from web
'The kid-centric online game Club Penguin (acquired by Disney last year) adds 500-1000 words a day to its list of forbidden chat-words in an effort to keep things clean. Wanna bet that kids come up with 2000-4000 new variant spellings a day?
Merrifield also thinks that there is an over-reliance on technology that ignores the human element, which is why they've decided to devote two-thirds of the company's staff to positions such as safety moderators and customer service.
"We know the limits of technology, even though I would put our filtering software up against anybody's, especially because of that human element - we're adding 500 to 1000 words every day to the filters, simply because of slang that works its way into the language.'

If kiddie site experts are having trouble what hope SL?

I am happy to host on my servers anything that the community wants, but need people to tell me what they want lol I am thinking about a forum but there seems to be so many at the moment, would it be worth it?

All suggestions via email to me and i will facilitate whatever i can Email address is in my profile.

Boy, are you brazen or what?

I'll give you a heads-up.. it will be mirrored and linked to everywhere now. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?

You don't have an effing clue what you just did, but then again, that really does not come as a surprise to me at this point.

The whole point of the exercise is that the word list WILL become public knowledge, and it WILL be accurate, because it WILL reflect what your own search engine contains in it, since that is a perfectly verifiable source. It may not be complete, but that is FAR from "inaccurate" or "incorrect".

Calling it "inaccurate" and deleting it is nothing more than confirmation just how accurate it really is, and is a blatant, obvious example of just how much of a spinmeister you really are.

See, folks? See just how far LL is willing to go to screw this whole mess up? This is just an iceberg sighting; the Titanic has yet to strike berg.

https://blogs.secondlife.com/index.jspa

It's a done deal folks......I have made my plans and after I've been chained and moved to Ursula I will probably tier down...at least recoup some of what SL has cheated me out of.

When I agreed to the TOS I thought I was buying mature land.....NOW SL has CHANGED the TOS which wasn't what I agreed to...to me it's breach of contract.

I will not spend another dime in SL...not worth it anymore.

and...... I went to Bay city and Nautilus....2 million for a 1024....you have got to be kidding me.....so now we know the real reason behind this.......MONEY

Well its a lucky we have a mirror on our servers for historical interest.

All are welcome to post there and if we are wrong then the page stays as a folly

Okay, Is anyone still behind the idea that this is not censorship?

We have got a wiki running here in my sig line with no censorship and based in sunny Holland

Good and thank you

That will be my druthers too. Or I may wait until they throw me out and continue just to do what I want. I want to be in on the original move, but i am also afraid that the land I get may not be as good as what I have. I know I will not want to share with a place that has say 30 or 40 people there at a time. I am hoping to find a friend that might want to share a sim with me. There is too much unknown to plan so there is really nothing else to do but enjoy our friends while we can because we may die an SL death sooner than we thought. We will not be able to sell our mainland for some time if we decide this is too bad to stay. I have always considered it a total loss anyway, rather like the price of drinking decent alcohol. I can't imagine not being able to have sex on the beach.
BT

Gee, never saw that coming.

I didnt believe they would do that when you said they would ah well glad we have the other wiki

No, it's not just you; I have repeatedly harped on it as one of the big issues in the mix. It is a very important issue to ALL landowners, even non-Adult Mature-rated landowners.

The land market is still in the crapper from oversupply from last year. We thought it was going to recover, but with the RL economy, the OpenSpace (past and present) issues, and now this, I think L$1/sqm is a reasonable target price for Mature mainland.

No. Thank You.

Agreed. A lot of land owners will either move to the continent or quit totally. What will they do with their old land? They'll dump it and they'll be under a lot of pressure to sell. So even if the new sims are auctioned and the prices reach the expected rates of about L$50/sqm (based on Nautilus and Bay City) the real mainland meanwhile will collapse because of so much dumped land. When land is at those sorts of prices it is close enough to free when compared to the tier fees. At that point there'll be no incentive to keep land because it will have no value so people will move around more, or I dunno, something weird will happen anyway.

Could be very interesting.