Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

It's some ways off, and has nothing to do with Adult Content. (Well... some adult content--collars, sexbeds, etc.--may need some significant script changes not because they're "adult" but rather because they were written to optimize for an execution environment that no longer obtains.) They're really only starting to figure out what the script memory limits will be, but generally it will affect objects on parcels or avatar attachments with large numbers of small scripts and/or scripts that use a lot of memory (as for lists, strings, etc.). For more detail, may be one place to start.

So Gorean sims and land as well as the words are considered adult?

Will LL release the list so that shop owners etc can pick their wording or do we we have to keep a wiki list for people to see?

Adult slang is a lot more widely known than the tit bird. And they still have no particular reason to give up looking for that genus simply because one search avenue fails.

I think we *all* have to deal with tits since we were 8-9 months old...

No rating and verification was needed that time, right? I - for example - sucked on them as there were no tomorrow to get some drops of milk.

Later at age of 12 I was with my parents and some relatives of them - in this case the cousin of my mother especially - at a nudist lake zone near Frankfurt/Germany. I had the fun to oil the tits of the cousin of my mother (and they called them tits!) with sun lotion and also her butt, hahahaha.

Tits was the first I saw, felt and tastet after arriving on globe and you want to hide them from me, while I am meanwhile 38y old?

I have the strong impression you all at LL need some relaxing, really!


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Jesus, Maria and Joseph and all holy ghosts: this whole adult thing is not normal...

Also we all slipped with full naked total body-contact through a vagina, all at age hmmm? 8-9 months...non verified as far as I remember - no payment info on file and no payment info in use, right? Ah and no Aristotle in near.

....and as 18+ it is now forbidden/hidden/restricted to see one - on a a pixel-painted "skin"?

What is wrong with you people there over the ocean? Problems with nature?

The only one making such arguments is yourself, bud.

I guess that makes it a self-propagating cycle, though, eh? :-/

However several of big names i speak to have said they also agree with the changes as do I, however its the implementation that lacks foresight, unless of course the truth is there is a hidden agenda in play here, which i would bet there is and that we will not be party to it.

LL hasn't even had the balls to bring these changes to the customer base as a whole as yet, and are hoping we as fellow customers fail in bring the message to them. I will not stop publishing details of these changes on our website/wiki and groups and i will help anyone that is trying to get the message out.

So when is LL going to bring these facts to the various different language groups and also make it full public knowledge?

Just wondering

I think a repost of several posts indicating that what they asked for and what they are getting are two VERY different things and why would also be called for.

I've talked to my adult club neighbor, too, and she's none too happy about it, especially after I educated her on the details.

Shall we agree to disagree, since appearantly we consider each others arguements spurious?

Ummm no. We haven't ALL played "horsey" as a child. I never did. Not even sure what that means.

Then the filtering system is broken and needs to be fixed or scrapped.

Not saying this about you or anyone in particular but some of the big names seem to be hoping that this change will destroy all the small fry competition and leave them and a few other large operations as some kind of quasi monopoly over the adult industry in SL.

Much like how each estate pricing change wipes out the little guys and leaves the big estates to mop up their ex-customers and buy their dumped sims.

I swear, if they call depictions of Romulus & Remus "bestiality" and "adult", I am going to complain to LL every day for the rest of my life. That myth is a central one in my religion (Roman Reconstructionist Pagan) and I won't stand for it. Lupa (the wolf) is a holy beast who preserved the Twins in infancy and ensured the founding and future of the City (Rome). She is even honoured during a religious festival known as the Lupercalia, along with Faunus, the goat footed God of the Wilderness. From my point of view, banning such images amounts to religious discrimination.

Romans also had a number of fertility and prosperity icons that were shaped like male genitalia. Are these also adult? Some of these fetishes (Oh no! Another banned word!) are highly detailed and artistic creations. Their purpose was not sexual, but spiritual and magical.

LL needs to understand that not everything falls under some black & white/good & evil/decent & perverted definition. Like most things in this world, it is made up of varying shades - and it really all depends on what you do with it and *how* that defines it.

The more I read the angry and downright mean posts here the more I am leaning the other direction. Even though I am confused by this issue and would like answers as much as anyone I am starting to think that i don't want to be grouped with people who call other people stupid among so many other remarks I hear here.

Everyone , including Blondin, have a right to their opinon. This forum is for getting answers and not for putting people down. It would be eaiser for us to get answers if Blondin didn't have to sort through the massive amounts of posts where there are no questions and just snide remarks (which I have been guilty of myself to an extent)

Blondin may not be giving us all the or any of the answers we want. But he/she is still human and is (as far as I can see) the only linden who is even making an effort to give us any feedback.

I think my fight with this is done. I will continue to ask quesions and I'l continue to look for answers but I won't be a part of the anit-ursula issue anymore.

Not to non-native English speakers.



Sure, and I have no particular reason to give up looking for a video card if I can't find the one I want. It just means I have to settle for "less" than I want, probably from some business who is in competition with the guy who actually IS selling what I want, but I can't find him because of a broken search paradigm.

I disagree.

It really seems that logic is only used (or twisted) to support the the goals and ideology of those using it so presenting "facts" and the best thought out deliberations are really ineffective. People keep saying look at this mess and LL says "we have but we don't see it your way we see it our way."

What don't you get about that? Arguing with dysfunctional folks is a tactic for increasing dysfunction because eventually you'll join them in dysfunction even while you oppose them.

For me the best thing presented here is the youtube video "Hitler explains second life". Does that sound nutty?
Sure but I'm not in anguish trying to convince others of what they will refuse to be convinced of.
And the video through humor and stark crazy brilliance does manage to say something too.

The fight or flight question is relevant too and I much appreciate the link to open life. Maybe OL isn't everything the protesters of age verify want. It also doesn't have SL's management practices. So people will stay here and try to force the Lindens to see things their way. Or they can move on-chances are good you'll be moving anyway and to a ghetto called ursala.

Personally, I think the idea that the policy can be stopped completely is pure fantasy, but I'm hopeful it can be shaped into something useful through resident input. It would be good if you'd continue to provide any input you feel useful, whether you're for or against the plan, and regardless of inflammatory statements made by others.

I remember it. One child (or an adult) gets down on all fours, and another child (or small adult) sits on his/her back and "rides" around the room.

What I remember about it is the carpet burns on my hands and knees... ouch!

Yay thank you for that and have u forwarded it to Couldbe Yue so she can put it on her flicker group http://www.flickr.com/groups/we_are_adult_content/

Once we get over 100 pictures on the group i will do a naked one to

I resemble this remark. I'm just saying. I am adult content... I am an escort. The people that work for me, and myself included...shop. We support numerous non-adult activities. Skins, clothing, furniture, builders, scriptors, shoes....BOOTS! (BTW Brenda, this really isn't at you...I'm just sayin *winks*)

What i see, over & over, is a blatant disregard for what the customers really want.

Let me type this VERY VERY SLOWLY, so maybe someone from LL will get it.


IF THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN SL WANT THESE CHANGES, WHY ARE YOU, LL, HIDING IT IN THE FORUMS, AND OBSCURE PLACES, AND NOT PUTTING IT ALL OVER THE LOG IN SCREENS? WHY ARE THERE NOT REFERENCES TO THE BLOGS SO THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE DANCING IN THE STREETS AND SKYS OF SL BECAUSE ALL OF US SMUT PEDDLING ADULT CONTENT WHORES AND IMMORAL PEOPLE ARE BEING SHUFFLED OFF OF LAND WE PICKED, WE PAID FOR, WE NURTURED, BUILT AND THRIVED ON, SO THAT THEY, FOR WHAT EVER REASON, DON'T HAVE TO STUMBLE UPON US????

IF this is SUCH A GRAND move, why HIDE it? LL's actions alone are enough to SCREAM that you guys are messing up....BIG time... and you just don't care.

People in these threads, with the exception of a few, aren't so much screaming for the adult things to stay where they are, as they are screaming for fair treatment of paying customers.

i, and a lot of folks in SL, use the linden we make to play the game...we pay land tier, we shop, we feed the economy in our world. we invest time, and effort, and emotion into making this our world, and LL simply doesn't care.

I, for one, support getting kids OFF The grid, and out of *my world*. I have, in the past, turned down more than one *potential client* simply because what they said, or how they acted, screamed *MINOR* at me... I have reported every admitted underage player i have encountered. I, and most the reputable escorts i know, do the same. Just cause we peddle sex doesn't mean we peddle sex to kids.

As Brenda said.. we DID, and we DO, want better controls, but not at the expense of numerous small businesses, and content providers. Find the balance LL, or be ready for the crash.

~Brie

This discussion and the idea of segregating the Adult themed materials puts me in mind of theKinks songShepherds Of The Nation

Down with sex and sin,
Down with pot, heroin.
Down with pornography,
Down with lust.
Down with vice lechery and debauchery.
We are the new centurians.
Shepherds of the Nations.
We'll keep on our guard
For sin and degradation.
We are the national guard
Against filth and depravity,
Perversion and vulgarity,
Homosexuality.
Keep it clean.
Down with nudity,
Breasts that are bare and pubic hair.
We are here to cleanse humanity
From the man in the raincoat's
Pale faced glare.
So sodomites beware.
We are the new centurians,
Shepherds of the Nation.
We'll keep on our guard
For sin and degradation.
We are the national, guard
Against filth and depravity,
Perversion and vulgarity,
Homosexuality.
Keep it clean.
I visualise a day when people will be free
From evils like perversion and pornography.
We'll cast out Satan and we'll set the sinners free,
So people of the nation unite.
Put all the pervs in jail,
Bring back the birch, and the cat of nine tails.
Bring back corporal punishment
Bring back the stocks
And the axeman's block.
Let righteousness prevail.
Down with nudity and hard core magazines.
We'll bring religion back
And keep our country clean.
Keep it clean.
We are the new centurians
Shepherds of the Nation.
We'll keep on our guard
For sin and degradation.
We are the national guard
Against filth and depravity.
Perversion and vulgarity,
Homosexuality.
Keep it clean.

If I'm not mistaken according to the last official post in community ...this blog will be shut down at the end of this month.....

Exactly.

If I wanted to find tits-that-are-birds, I'd do exactly this ... I would search for "tits" with mature/adult turned off. By my logic, that should return only the tits that are birds.

The way PG/mature is currently implemented (= no enforcement whatsoever, apparently), a PG search for "tits" certainly returns more than enough tits that aren't PG. The way PG/mature/adult is apparently going to be implemented, a search for tits-that-are-birds will simply not be possible. How does that make any sense?

Before I get accused again of whining; I'm not that much worried about my business actually, at least if it ends up that "tit" (in its singular form) will not be filtered, as is currently the case (was apparently changed at some point yesterday. And I understand that the "word list" is by no means final), as then I can at least still check my birds to "show in search". It just happens to be a non-hypothetical case of a clear false positive, which is why I posted in the first place: to point out that those false positives do indeed exist.

(Oh, and I'm not a native speaker of English either. Not that I'm not aware of the slang meaning of the word, but when I hear "tit" in its singular form, my first thought is of the bird (there are dozens of them outside my window right now). I understand that in American English, the name "tit" for those birds is avoided (and that they aren't as frequent there as they are in Europe), and I assume that's where some of the misunderstandings with Alexander come from (Alexander, you referred to tomtits a few times -- that's a different bird than the ones in question, actually). But I'd really rather not post about my tits in this thread anymore now ;P)

Just, Blondin, don't tell me a few months from now, when all this goes into effect, that I won't be allowed to call a Great Tit a Great Tit or a Blue Tit a Blue Tit unless I move my PG store to the Adult continent. There are no alternative common names for those birds, I'm not calling a tit a tit because it's funny, but because that is their name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_(bird)



Now I'll really shut up again, I'm a lurker, dammit, not a poster ...

Some slang in not known to english speakers in different countries (sometimes even regions)!