Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Er.. Thank you (really) but that doesn't answer the question, Blondin.

All mainland regions are already hosted on class 5 hardware (so Jack told me) and sims already have a hard time with high-traffic areas.

The issue is that adult places tend to be high-traffic and you're talking about stuffing all of them into a much smaller area than they are on now which _will_ absolutely _destroy_ performance on this new continent.

If what you gave is the only answer that's coming, you're confirming that performance will be horrible across this new continent.

See also: /352/01/312352/97.html#post2368417

I think the real issue here is: what is LL going to do to prevent land speculators from buying up all the free land on Porngea and setting it for sale at 100x the going rate?

If LL does nothing to prevent this, nobody will be able to get new land there - you're effectively locking it down, forever, to people that get in on the initial land swap or ones that want to pay absolutely silly prices.

Fly around Bay City and look at the land for sale there to see exactly what the problem is.

Thats awesome. Lots people been worried about that.

Just throwing ideas out there. I'm not saying isolate them, just that maybe I'll make an effort to spend my time and money in places my presence is appreciated.

Aside from voicing my displeasure with the policy, and its execution, there is very little direct pressure individuals can bring on LL. Perhaps businesses, who spend more on tier than I ever will, may get more attention from LL if the policy drives off their customers.

I went to Blondin's office hours yesterday evening. I politely asked the same question THREE times, waiting 5-10 minutes between asking. Blondin ignored the questions wholesale. It was PAINFULLY obvious he was ignoring them.

Blue' office hours overlap Blondin's, offset by 30 minutes later. When it became clear that Blondin had no intention to respond, I went over and sat in with Blue. Even though it wasn't my intent to burden his OH with the questions, he obliged me and everyone engaged in a polite and fun discussion of the topic. Apparently, something Blondin just isn't capable of. The questions were in no way resolved, but progress was made on both sides.

Hopefully, it will continue, and the Light of Reason will peek in for a chance to mitigate this foolishness. Next stop looks to be Jeska, probably Cyn, then M himself.

Will be different I think. BayCity is a limited continent. Its expensive because it has a limited size. The AO continent going to grow as fast as people buy. LL I would think is going to add as many new sims to AO as there is demand. Is a whole new revenue stream for LL. The supply going to regulate price like it always does. And I think LL going to make the supply abundant for the reasons they given already. So is not going to be anywhere near the prices that some people are hoping to speculate on.

I made it! I made it on time! I was gone for a while and I apologize. I live 4 hours away from an office and I commute 2 days / 1 night a week. Thursdays, I travel back home so I'm AFK for a chunk of the evening.

Still got that glass of wine for me or did you kill the bottle?

Then a better answer would be "we'll keep adding regions until speculators get tired of giving us money."

And you don't post anything from home? Knowing the amount of content that comes through these forums..


and cause this crosses my mind. I have a home on a private sim, that is as of now rated mature, if this goes ADULT then I won't even be able to go home, how is LL going to accomidate that? (I "live" with friends on SL)

I've done some research on my own concerning LL's third party verifier, Aristotle. They have some questionable ties and are affiliated with borderline criminal elements. I'm not comfortable handing any of my sensitive data over to a third party who lies about retaining that information (which they have done), as well as selling it to other sources for profit with out the data's owner's consent, (which they have also done) nor in leaving myself or my family vulnerable in this manner. I've used a CC for my family so that we can swap $Ls and have fun in SL. Now I'm considering pulling that and retiring from SL due to this insistent push toward segregation and discrimination. (BTW, by family I mean adults who are all over 21 y.o.) Thus far, the Lindens have given us a lot if double talk and jargon, but few solid answers or definitions. Our main concerns are still unanswered and the Residents are in a position of getting taken advantage of and LL is doing nothing to prevent this.

I will not give out my SSN. That would be illegal. Check with US government website to read for yourself. Nor will I hand out my DL number to non-police.

LL is not the US government nor is it judicial nor legal authority in any manner. We are consumers, it is no more than a gaming website with visions of grandeur. Any other service on the web, in which I've made a purchase, does not "verify" my age when I present my valid CC. They process my order and ship it to me. If you've already taken my money or processed an order for me, how can you now step back and demand that I verify myself?

Now, how about some hard answers to our tough questions?

How about a manner of verification that is both legal and does not infringe on our privacy or safety?

I mean, lets face it LL, you guys bungled your own company's security and have been hacked numerous times, endangering your residents. What is our guarantee of secured transfer of data and privacy?

My idea was that perhaps merchants who provide LL with a lot more income than individuals do will have more of a voice with LL when they see the policy dries up their customer base. Thinking more, I don't believe LL would listen to them, either. If they went out of business, it would just free up servers for some other hare brained scheme.

You're right, it is painting too many residents who have nothing to do with it with too broad a brush. I'd need to know a business is actually in favor of the policy before taking my money elsewhere.

I think he said his commute home is 4 hours, and I assume he doesn't post while driving.

I had this conversation inworld with another person who is a creator of adult products and has their store on the mainland. That person has been worried about how much a move to the AO will cost her. She is going to be very pleased that it will cost her nothing. Thats good.

She wont be messing about and as soon asshe is apprised of this then she will move as soon as LL can arrange it. She is running a business and will go where the market is. The market, her customers, will be shopping for AO products on the AO continent.

Items 3) and 4) ya. Is no resident speculators in there. Is a simple decision for most people in the adult content business. A no-brainer really.

seen people do that lol. (but won't get into it)

no, I mean either after h gets homefrom work (hence I said at home) because there's a multitude of questions just simply being ignored

Not really.. The lag is going to be horrible. Several people in these threads have been running traffic scanners and it seems like about 60% of the people in adult areas are no-payment-on-file so any non-mainstream places will probably take a good sized hit. I live an in 1/2 sim neighborhood with 4 different owners and a whole bunch of separate parcels and LL has said they're not going to help us move - dunno how (or if) we can deal with that..

If you've just got vendors, sure - no brainer. As you get away from that, it becomes far less of a no brainer...

Excellent example! That movie is rated R for strong violent and sexual images.

As in, 'you need to present proof of age to see this in a theatre.'

One question that has been bothering me.

If a user has a private home on a residential parcel, in a Mature sim... with a sexgen bed in it...that they "use"....will they need to move to the new Porntopia with the BDSM clubs and freesex areas?

Depends on how Linden Labs interprets the "intent" of the bed if someone happens to complain about it, like that would ever happen.

I think they've been saying that private places won't have to move.

See, I find that funny. Because they keep saying, "This is to protect innocent people from seeing what they do not wish to see."

Half the sex IN SL happens within private homes...curtains often NOT closed ...

The complaints today are against larger sims because they're very visible. I'm fairly certain that once they've been relocated/safely removed from the view of the offended people, they'll turn to wandering the grid ARing all nudity they see outside of Porntopia.

I can answer that aslong as yoru sky box isnt listed in the search and isnto for pubic use its fine.
either JP or Blondin told me that i can not recall who

The lag is always a problem where there are lots or people. Popular clubs, stores and meeting places all suffer from that. Is a problem anywhere. Some AO sims are going to get lagged and some not for all the same reasons.

I think some people already thinking about making AO shopping malls on whole sims and by doing so they going to guarantee to their tenants and customers that there will be no clubs and public freenis places allowed on sim to overcome this. Lag caused by paying customers anyone can tolerate.

Also some people in the adult content business been thinking before now about banding together as individual owners to move to the same sim for the same reason. Now that LL say can move for free then lots more people who arent club/porgy owners are going to be thinking the same. I not be surprised to see people coming into the forums asking other people to band with them so they can approach LL for a collective swap. And I think LL will help facilitate this kinda action. Hope so anyways.

Of course it's listed in search, it's OVER THE STORE. Sheesh.

She means the landing point.. If the parcel landing point is in the non-adult public store, it's probably ok to have a naughty private place above it.

Only problem, as far as I know, would be if it was _right above_ the store. Then you get to roll the gteam dice and hope you get a tolerant one...

the store is listed but not the sky box
Becouse i have my skybox over my store also and and asked them about it and they said its fine if its not listed and not for public use
is what i meant you lil rodent.
lol


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Yeah that too

Really? Whatever happened to the 18+ requirement? Teen grid is *teen* grid, not SL



I'm sorry, but exactly what is the difference between merging teen grid and SL, and shutting *down* teen grid and *moving* the teens to some area in SL?

Or allowing them to play in *some* parts of SL but not others?

Is there a *functional difference*, because if so, I'm not seeing it. any scenario which ends with teens on any part of the main grid *is* a merger of teen grid and main grid.

I understand that there would be many ways to *do* that, but the results would be the same, regardless of what method they use.

And the precursor to such a step would have to be "cleaning up" the main grid.

-V-