Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Yes what about Avatar names?

I won't name one of my alts well because its an Alt!

but one word is already on the list and I bet it will stay there !! as well ... the Linden Provided sur name that makes the name perfect for the adult activities she dose Are LL going to change her name? Either the chosen first or the Linden last?) is this going to be an adult only avatar? I mean she is Adult verified through the Aristotle and PIU ...maybe we should make her the group land owner guaranteeing a move to Ursala

I was gone for the weekend.. whats this filtering already in effect? Different viewer? someone catch me up... lol... i read everything from when i left, i musta missed something

So ..

Is Lindening for L$ Mature or Lindening adult?

Linden the Lindens!!

Hmmm..., I think: there is ever a way - even when Ursula will be "stable" established in June/August and the filters and ratings are implemented into the viewer and the G-Teams marauding over the continents like vandal hordes. Think on south-africa. Apartheid is gone. I also think that we see now Obama as President of the US has something to do with the former work and influence - the long historical shadow - of Dr. Martin Luther King.

Think on Woodstock and on the students and workers protest movements in 1968 and the following years in Europe. And we can think on the Berlin Wall and the so called iron curtain beween east and west. Regimes and tight rules and totalitarisms are never as stable as they look. They come and go in waves.

Some made it 12 years, some made it 50 years, but none made it forever. There is ever a latent tendency for freedom sleeping in the masses and sometimes this awakes and the walls are down over night, literally.

Sooner or later LL will learn that too if they act further like a regime.

The whole globe is now in "1984" (Orwell) mode - political paranoia where you look.

Were terrorists able to shrink down our civil rights and joy of life?

No! Their weak needle tactic hitted only 2 buildings and 2 U-trains in London and Madrid.

Beside the sad fact that the world lost lifes while that, is the complete modern world untouched.

This was not enough to impress the crystal palace called modern western world too much.

It was just a mosquito-bite at an elephants butt. Elephant noticed it short and is still unimpressed.

More trouble we have through our own banksters and stupid biz in collaboration with panic driven medias and paranoia driven politicians.

Every serious hurricane, earthquake, tsunami, the yearly number of car-accidents and cancer, hunger and poverty, drinking and junk food, working-stress and unintelligent health-care systems and much more, causing much more damage and deadly results.

Our own governments stealing our civil rights and our freedom. Not "aliens". Not nipples. Not genitals. Not hedonistic lifestyles. Grey suits are the problem. They are making the world deadly boring and non-pulsating.

But this will not last forever. It was never able to be too long stable.

SL is a fast thing. We gave so far not one percent of all possible creativity in to act and react.

Subversive activities are ever possible and they can be fun - legal fun. There are so much legal and creative ways to sabotage a too tight and too boring system. Every system has some weak points from where it can be deconstructed and turned 180°.

As better as more it is established. Maybe we should *wait until it is established*, because then we *know exact where* we can hit it best

To tear a wall down, the wall has to be established. Then we can do something to find the weak points of that wall, to deconstruct the whole thing into pieces.

Here a hole, there a hole, at this point a static problem and at that point a small gap and at the end the wall is gone...

Termite tactic. We start to eat the wall then when the wall is really there, hahahaha

So far is there no wall. So, not much available to eat actually. But as soon the wall is established the diner is served. Mmmmmm.

Their most weakest point is their tendency in direction boredom.

Any creative artistic, humoristic and sexy fun is able to attract people and to change things.

Actually LL itself is killing their own idea and our ideas, because they make the environment sterile and boring.

I mean...look at their landscapes and buildings and "events". Hahahaha. The yawn-factor is embedded there.

Any funeral in New Orleans is more fun and more sexy.

One main attribute is ever the same in all these systems. They don't breath. They are closed containers with no fresh air. They are grey and boring inside. They are sterile. They end ever in two possible ways: changed by a good revolution into something more organic and pulsating life, or they die by their own boredom. Because they are not sexy enough In any meaning.

SL can only exist like every pulsating metropolitan area exsits. Otherwise it will be a desert with some grey people hanging around in grey buildings, talking grey stuff.

Yawn.

Except bots aren't banned. Bots will be *regulated* to a degree, but not banned. Unverified accounts won;t be banned either. they will just have their content options narrowed, and they'll *still* be allowed in the welcome areas.

All the way down the line- the LL plan either doesn't do what they say they want done, or it makes matters worse.

-V-

And people accuse me of trolling... how many non-english speakers are going to be looking specificly for a bird known as a 'tit' regardless of which variety?

And they would expect it filtered for the same reason kids giggle when they hear the name, because of the association. There are whole comedy routines built around it.

I've just changed the land description and removed "sex" as a keyword.

My profile still lists the old description in picks.

Does that mean that my pick and thus my profile will be filtered out from regular search? Will I "disappear"?

/me curls up in a corner and dies...

No no no no no... that's a copyright issue....

LinDUN.. Lindun.

At least they didn't *used* to know! Thanks one hell of a lot for ruining my disguise, argent!


-V-

My apologies.. I normally search by 'places' rather than by 'all', which explains why it was not showing up. I do see it there when I switch categories. I take it the sub categories of search are not all inclusive?

I still stand by my opinion that the filtering is causing you more indigation than any actual damage to you. 'Songbirds' leads to you in a much cleaner fashion.

What are the current mature ratings, I can't find them. can we still go nude, etc?

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

You can go nude, whether your avatar can is another matter.

Oh good. So I can remove the tape from my nipples? Thanks. it is kind of hot here today.

Your World. Your Imagination.

I would not ask. Just do it!

Think on Woodstock

http://img.stern.de/_content/52/83/528328/Woodstock18_600.jpg

Lets see, LL putting Adult content into a gulag, leaving any and all to wander in Mature land, possibly to AR with impunity, then leaving the gates to PG open, so any Child pornographer can interact with the kiddies, wow, what incredible values LL has!

Is this to subtle a rendition of the LL's intentions?

Linden that!

They cant stop us from saying Linden!

They named their Linden-Lindened MONEY after themselves.

Lindening Lindens$.

First they came for the Lindens, but I didn't speak up since I wasn't a Linden.
Then they came for the Lindens, but I didn't speak up because I still wasn't a Linden.......

I call Godwinden!!!

you cant Godwinden this thread!

Blondin hasn't answered my Lindening question yet!

Yes, that's what it means. Certain terms will only be viewable by account verified residents, and the un-verified will be limited to "PG" and "Mature" parcels and searches.

But it's okay, because blondin is showing us ways to get around it, and keep our adult content on "mature" land by changing a couple of descriptors in the parcel description.
So you ought to be able to find plenty of Pr0n on mature land, but people just won't be able to *call* it that.

It's all in the *name* you see- and the advertising.

-V-

okay, you have got to be shitting me.

Are we still at war with Oceania? I forget.

-V-

if a little puzzling

-V-

Time to repost my questions, since they never got answered.

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Dear Lindens,

Thank you so much for the publishing of the new guidelines on the Knowledge Base (https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010) but I hate to tell you, they are still too vague to know where one stands.

I have two major concerns and several minor ones regarding the new rules and region designations. Let's start with the 1st major one:

I am the Estate Manager for a group of 4 non-mainland sims - on these sims, we allow *non-sexual* toplessness and nudity, for both women and men (including non-erect prim "bits" for men). How does this fall under the new guidelines - adult or mature? Your guidelines state no "Photo-realistic nudity". Does this also apply to realistically drawn skins? (E.g. skins with realistically detailed *drawn* nipples and "kitties"?) If so, then you might as well say nudity is "Adult", and not allowed in Mature areas, since I cannot judge what sort of skins our visitors might choose to wear. And what about prim gentialia attachments? Is it still "Adult" if our sim rules do not allow them to be in an erect state? What about the activities naked avatars are engaged in? If a group of avatars is dancing naked in a field, but not engaging in sexual acts, is *that* "Adult"? Where is the line drawn?

Another concern regarding our sim and it's activities is this: while we allow non-sexual nudity in "public" (nothing in SL is really private anyway, but we define public as anywhere one should not normally expect sexual activity - shops, taverns, the street, the main square, etc.) we do have an underground region equipt with sex-gen beds for those who wish to engage in such activities in "private". Your new guidelines state - "Dance clubs that feature "burlesque" acts can also generally reside in Mature Regions so long as they don't promote sexual conduct such as through pose balls (whether in "backrooms" or more visible spaces)." While our underground private rooms are not a dance club, this would still seem to apply to them in that they "promote sexual conduct such as through pose balls (whether in "backrooms" or more visible spaces)".

We have taken great care to keep all sexual activity out of the eyes of those who might not wish to see it, while still allowing those who wish to engage in it the freedom to do so. But it seems that under your new guidelines, this would brand our sim "Adult", rather than Mature. Why are we being penalised for being *responsible* folk? If I am mistaken, and this does *not* define our sim as "Adult", please explain why it isn't and whether or not as an Estate Manager I will have to worry about fraudulant ARs from the small minority that might be offended anyway. For me, as a manager, that would be a *major* concern, because often, ARs are handled in haste and repaired after the fact. I cannot afford to be banned for "running adult activities in a mature sim", even if it were rectified later. I am part of the law and order in our sim, and need to be availible to maintain that order, as well as all my other duties as a manager.

Which brings us to our sims rental residents. Will they be forced to remove any sex-gen or similar items from their homes because of this "promote sexual conduct such as through pose balls (whether in "backrooms" or more visible spaces)" clause? Will they have to remove nude art (including artistic nude photographs, since these are certainly "photo-realistic"? How far does this "no sex poseballs in public" thing go? We will lose a *lot* of rental residents if they are forced to remove all things of a sexual nature from their homes.

And before you suggest "Well then, just re-zone your sim Adult", I will explain to you why we do not want to do this: We do not consider ourselves an "Adult" sim. We do not want to be re-zoned "Adult", and then have to argue with visitors who come in about not sex-scening in the street or removing erect attachments. We do not want to be ARed because we banned them from our land after they would not comply, having them tell us "This is an Adult region and I can do that here!" Even if the AR was not enforced, it makes more work for us, and we do not have a huge management staff. We also do not want to attract the sorts of visitors an Adult rating *would* attract - not because of their interests/desires/behaviours - but because they will come in assuming we offer entertainments we do not actually allow. This will hurt our reputation in the manner of "false advertising". (EDIT: Resulting in further arguements, ARs, and general ill-will between visitors and management) Not to mention the severe downturn of traffic we will see since only the age verified will be able to enter. (And would also result in banning some of our rental residents from their land, as they are Europeans who are having difficulty verifying.)

These new guidelines were obviously *not* meant to work with people who try hard to maintain a balance on their sims between sexual freedom and orgiastic licentiousness. You seem to have a assumed that if we allow any adult activity, then we are by definition an "Adult" sim, which is not always the case. Please clarify for me how these new rules will affect those of us who allow certain adult behaviours in a *controlled* and private manner. It seems as if these new rules, if implemented as I fear they will be, will end up punishing those of us who are trying to maintain a balance that will please almost everyone.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Just got a survey!