Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Can't stand the stuff ... berry flavored Vodka on ice for me.

Well, that doesn't surprise me.

Just so happens that I have a neighbor who runs several SW RP venues that are into BDSM, slave trading, etc. I'm sure his group has NO IDEA that this policy is coming, but I can almost guarantee you what his reaction will be when he finds out.

Blondin, when will this be updated?





1. The term "photorealistic" does not match what you've described (eg, photorealistic skins).
2. Non-realistic violence (including death, dismemberment, and other severe bodily harm) is saturday-morning-cartoon fare.

You've said that non-sexual nudity (among other things) counts as "mature", not "adult".

This pretty much needs to be scrubbed, no?

When LL start giving mutual respect to owners of mixed use islands then we can start saying there's mutual respect. Private Estate owners and tenants are getting shafted hard again, the Openspace debacle wasn't that long ago.

I have no problem with the adult continent, were I to open an adult business it would be on the adult continent but I have major issues with both the forced relocation and LL completely ignoring the private island issues, that is not mutual respect. People have built business and purchased land in good faith and now LL are moving the goalposts. That simply does not constitute mutual respect.



A PG continent to counter the adult continent without a doubt starts to make this truly about offering more choice, however Linden Lab aren't interested in that. The issue of mature and PG land side by side, and I've had PG land next to mature and it made a mockery of PG status, again is not being addressed.

There aren't just holes in this plan, there are gaping chasms. Linden Lab refuse yet again to listen to their existing customers as they go chasing shadows.

This can be fixed if Linden Lab actually show the will to make it work, but so far they've shown those objections the finger and that simply is not about respsect.

Oh yeah, Mos Eisly would definitely be classed as adult, let alone what goes on at Jabbas place

Thank you Blondin.
With that comment, you've restored my faith - in my hope - to have faith - in some signs of intelligence within LL.

There will always people who seek to abuse a situation. Wilfully ignoring the abuse potential is the true sign of a failure waiting to happen.


I can see a sense in this 'physical' separation of lifestyle and/or life-experimentation themes.

The 'life-experimentation' part is what I see as the most valuable part of what we are talking about. Self-knowledge is important. Some of us need to explore the limits - both in our creativity and in our exposure to challenging situations.
To others, this is anathema.
Unfortunately in this case, 'others' happens to be the mass market. These others are mostly the millions that Meta says are waiting in the wings, and she could be right.

I could support this Ursula thing if only LL were not treating people so shabbily.
LL are abusing the best of us in order to pander to the worst of us.

"Your World, Your Imagination" is being packaged into a travel brochure.
That is not to say that the PG world can not or has not produced the most amazingly wonderful creations, but it is the current policy is strangling an element of courage in creativity.

Bite the bullet.
Give everyone an option to swap some or all of their land to an AO part of the world.
Alternatively, give everyone an option to swap some or all of their land to a PG part of the world. Forget the hypocritical M middle-ground.

This would be an very difficult thing to do. It's not just square metres.
Private estates would have issues to deal with on this.
The mainland estate would have issues perhaps a bit more complex.

What is driving this June deadline for starting the move to Ursula?
Does it override any hope of sanity?

Exactly. There is way too much about the currently proposed system that is left to the good graces of Linden Labs. As it stands, it doesn't sound like there is much choice to where (or even If) we will be moved.

Oh, if I was on the Board of Directors, I would be very pissed off.

Whomever allowed PG land and Mature land to be intermingled all over the place ... gone!

Whomever decided that "rules" were only "rules we won't enforce, until we decide we will" ... gone!

Whomever decided to have "by invitation only" brown bag meetings ... gone!

Whomever decided we could have a discussion about this, without some "published in stone" deliverables about this plan ... gone!

BUT, the key point, is that I'm not on the Board, so I will just help the few people I can, and make the best of it.

Dam i was gonna marry you if you got free beer

Where is the analysis of the actual numbers. How MANY "mature", "pg" and "other" things/people/places that exist in the currently configured world?

Are we being forced into a small, crowded corner by the "Moral Majority"? (which is neither Moral nor the Majority) The Puritanical States of America is one of the largest groups of Public Prudes yet Private W*ores in the world (just look at the d*mn news sometime, scandal after scandal, senator's, congressmen, priests, preachers, nuns, teachers. Don't tell me I'm not talking true here.).

Yet they are gonna slam us because of our habits online? I'm sorry, Don't think so. If I've violated a policy of LL's, I'm sorry, give me my spanking, tell me what I did wrong and let's move on. IF these others, or new people don't want to see OUR WORLD, OUR SECOND LIFE'S, then THEY need to go to "Ursula" NOT US!

Why Punish US? Who have faithfully been here, helping SL to grow, creating, paying our money, giving LL the capitol needed to continue to expand, Bringing SL INTO the light through our telling our friends and getting them to come join us in our chosen Second Life?

So I agree with Shockwave. Why do WE have to move. Create the new land for those who don't want to see the beautiful place we HAVE created, in all it's little twistedness.

And then SHOW me WHO is the majority of the adults here. Us or Them?

(I apologize if any of it seemed to ramble. I Abhor Censorship. The only censor I need is me. DON'T tell me what I can see, hear, read, watch. Let ME make those decisions. Otherwise you violate my rights as a Citizen and an Adult.)

Oh, I can get it ... I just don't drink it. Wouldn't that make things even better?

There is no censorship here ... nobody is supressing or deleting your right to see or do anything. This is more like zoning, which is found almost everywhere in the United States.

By the way, blaming this on some sort of puritanical moral majority was done 5000 posts ago. It was questionable back then, and isn't getting any more accurate with repetition.

Die! Carl Metropolitan ----- DIE!

You and your maps!

That sounds good let me know when you have set the date, O and i want to be a kept man hope thats OK as with all that free beer i won't want to work lol

I understood that it was to be named Cyn City.

Summer Vacation. Pure and simple.

LindenLab claims this is all so that adults are not upset by adult content. But the real issue is having it all ready for summer vacation and the kids. Invasion of the teens who now need to spend money to have the latest dress or weapon. pfft

Not to mention, we have only the rights in SL that LL sees fit to grant us. There is no inherent Freedom of Anything. LL CAN tell us what we can say, see and do in their platform/game/thingie.

And if ut doesn't work out you can always visit my divorce office before it gets ARed for having a sex engine in the filling cabeniet since it seems they won't let me move to ursula

How about the search filter? Preventing Mature businesses from using anything above rated G terms in their ads comes pretty close to that. That's part of the plan that needs work.

You know its funny.. I just went in to SL and did a search for 'songbird' and got nothing. I did a search for songbirds (plural) and got an amazing 4 hits, one of which is a Karaoke lounge.

None of the three actual songbird vendors adversize specific species rather than songbirds generally, and a total of 3 vendors is sufficiently small that it seems most passing strange that people looking for genus Petroica would be unable to find the poster's shop.

But of course I suppose such patrons would never think to simply search for 'songbirds' as the great masses of would be purchases of such beautifully rendered tomtits would not even think of them as songbirds, and that anyone wishing to purchase a tomtit, upon finding none at all in search would immediately conclude that there were sadly none to be purchased.

Interestingly enough, 'Albatross' does not get any hits either... and they are sea bird flavoured...

I think it's more so they can give a temporary explanation if the move causes any sort of noticeable exosus or other action by protesting residents. Logins are down, spending is down? No worry. It's summer time.

There is if you don't wish to, or cannot, "verify". Let alone advertise (or find) anything using words which are filtered, especially out-of-context.

Difference is, zoning is a necessary and useful thing in RL. In SL, it is very hard to make the same argument.



You're right; it's about as accurate as it can get.

Just because it is in most places doesn't make zoning any less evil.

And you are correct on the puritan issue.

To be specific, all version 5.0, 5.01 and 5.01a SexGen beds that were rezzed in-world a few weeks ago lost a MAJOR chunk of their data storage scripts. The asset deletion gutted those items, and made them worthless. It was repairable, but required people sending their beds to Stroker for repair.

I know. It wiped out SIX beds that I own! All repaired, now.

Sorry, but this is not true.

LL is saying that some people, those not verified, cannot see some content in SL. There IS censorship, not a simple zoning.