Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Which is why you need something that will reach the people who don't understand but can be educated, and frankly the "I am adult content" and other campaigns I've seen won't do that. They'll alienate the people they need to reach, just like those ads you see in stores in SL talking about intellectual property. There's no "hook".

You get people's attention by showing how it'll effect them, not by talking about abstractions or downtrodden outgroups they likely think ought to be downtrodden.

Don't ask me for examples, I'm ambiclumsy when it comes to Photoshop.

They asked us for advice on how best to go about doing it. It seems like 90% of the answers were "don't do it", and then those answering like this have been surprised that LL didn't listen to them.

The proper term is Pornsylvania.. just to the north of SqueakyLand

And the complete stranger would know how? The kid is smart enough to steal mommy's credit card or DL number and get it back without her noticing, but not able to do the same with a friend's or stranger's?

And I bet they never shoplift or do anything else wrong either, cause 'that would be wrong or dangerous?'

And they would probably feel they could get away with it if they were caught too, cause they are 'just kids.'

I tryed to search..... 300+ pages of post... you gotta miss something...

I don't belive in alts and all that...
but one thing of curiosity...

If I ever got a socalled "alt".... lets call the alt for "alt alterson"
and vertifyed "alt alterson"with the same RL info I gave my normal/main account.
would SL residents be able to know that Im allso "alt alterson"?

in a way I dont care, but Im shure some don't want others to know who theyr alt/alts are

please reply if you can, and send a IM with the answer...
I belive I will loose track of forums fast... I dont like forums
thanks

Why I Support the Adult Changes

an essay by Darien Caldwell

For those that do not know me, I run Dari's Haus, Odds, ends, and Stuff, a Second Life business I started back in Feburary of 2007. My first item was a blindfold-gag, which launched my business into the stratosphere. I've been a proponent of the D/S community and freedom of speech in SL for a long time now. But I support what LL is doing, and here is why.

You've heard the spiel more than once, Second Life is a diverse place with a lot of people doing a lot of things. Some come here for adult reasons, some don't. And that clash is the cause of a lot of issues. We as adults have a right to do what interests us, as long as it doesn't run afoul of the jurisdictional law this service operates under. And this is universal, to everyone here, not just those interested in D/S, Sex, or what have you. Not everyone's world-view is open enough to accept the same things as others, we all have our taboos, and dislikes, but some things transcend the personal into the realm of the societal. Sex is definitely one of those things.

Sex is a wonderful and beautiful thing, but it's also a private, intimate thing. It is understandable some are not comfortable with it being 'in their face' when out and about. As well, there are many good reasons why people of young age should not be exposed to them. "But SL is for adults, no kids are supposed to be here!" you will say, and that's true. But saying and doing are two things, and that is where LL's efforts begin. Only with some kind of verification can they make a good-faith effort to ensure there are no kids here. Is it perfect? No. But it is necessary an effort be made.

As to the point of the segregation, I feel LL is making their best compromise under the circumstances. If LL wanted Adult Content gone, they could do it, quite easily, as they did with gambling, and banks, and other things which came before. They could have implemented Age Verifying in it's most flawed state, so nobody could verify as adult, and that would have done the job too. But they have obviously been working very hard to ensure they not only have a system that works, but a system that is as all-encompassing as possible. Again, it's not perfect. But what in SL is?

Respect is a two way street. We as Adults demand our lifestyles and viewpoints be respected, but we must do the same for those who's viewpoints are different from ours. We must respect their desire to not be inundated with what to them is uncomfortable or even immoral. Only through mutual respect can a kind of understanding ever hope to be achieved.

I do believe LL has some major holes in their plan which still need to be overcome, but they are not insurmountable. I only hope they can do so in a way that satisfies (and note I didn't say pleases) everyone. So in closing I say I support this because I want it to work. Everyone deserves a better SL, the lascivious Adults, and the buttoned down Adults; the Teacher Adults, and the Subbie Adults; and every Adult in between.

One of my favorite authors, Robert A. Heinlein said it best: "A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill." I believe LL is doing it's best not to make that mistake.

And the capital is Pornodelphia.

*Beams proudly as her meme takes hold.

Day ain't over yet..

Dude, it's not just a "particular species", it is a "family" of species. I'm not much of a bird watcher myself, but they are common targets for those that are.

So, yeah, for those who are interested in detailed representations of birds, there should very well be a strong market for them and, thus, putting them in advertising is quite warranted.

As for the other part, it is irrelevant, because the filter won't filter on context but on the words themselves. As such, his business will be impacted negatively from the overzealous (and ineffectual) use of filtering.

I can keep it short.

I work as an artist for a "sin tax" business, in this instance a large import beer company.

There is no way that unregulated, uncontrolled and unzoned hard core pornography can be a continued going concern, as Second Life grows and finds itself in the public eye. Its a walk on a train track, waiting for the speeding light to run you over.

I dislike the way they are handling it. There probably isn't a user's manual at Barnes and Noble.

And the capital is Pornodelphia.

*Beams proudly as her meme takes hold.

ponders what would complete the trifecta ....

I can keep it short.

I work as an artist for a "sin tax" business, in this instance a large import beer company.

There is no way that unregulated, uncontrolled and unzoned hard core pornography can be a continued going concern, as Second Life grows and finds itself in the public eye. Its a walk on a train track, waiting for the speeding light to run you over.

I dislike the way they are handling it. There probably isn't a user's manual at Barnes and Noble.

LL announces that they really HAVE been bought by Disney

...Only with some kind of verification can they make a good-faith effort to ensure there are no kids here. Is it perfect? No. But it is necessary an effort be made.

...As to the point of the segregation, I feel LL is making their best compromise under the circumstances. If LL wanted Adult Content gone, they could do it, quite easily, as they did with gambling, and banks, and other things which came before. They could have implemented Age Verifying in it's most flawed state, so nobody could verify as adult, and that would have done the job too. But they have obviously been working very hard to ensure they not only have a system that works, but a system that is as all-encompassing as possible. Again, it's not perfect. But what in SL is?

Respect is a two way street. We as Adults demand our lifestyles and viewpoints be respected, but we must do the same for those who's viewpoints are different from ours. We must respect their desire to not be inundated with what to them is uncomfortable or even immoral. Only through mutual respect can a kind of understanding ever hope to be achieved.

I do believe LL has some major holes in their plan which still need to be overcome, but they are not insurmountable. I only hope they can do so in a way that satisfies (and note I didn't say pleases) everyone.

So in closing I say I support this because I want it to work. Everyone deserves a better SL, the lascivious Adults, and the buttoned down Adults; the Teacher Adults, and the Subbie Adults; and every Adult in between.

One of my favorite authors, Robert A. Heinlein said it best: "A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill." I believe LL is doing it's best not to make that mistake.

That is correct. Ursula will not be the name of the Adult Content mainland.

That kind of thinking explains why so many use bots (note, not saying you do, just lamenting your response)...

You would not have to put 'I am not telling you which ones' in a search any more than a clothing vendor needs to specify their list of clothing in search is not all inclusive.

Is there really that much competition for specific species of songbirds that you need your ads to be that specific as well? Even though it means your ads would come up in searches completely irrelevant to your product other than perhaps as a marketing gimmick?

And the capital is Pornodelphia.

*Beams proudly as her meme takes hold.

So Pornsylvania is still in the running?

Huzzah!

Their wanting to create a better PR view of SL and have a seperate continent so people who don't wish to see sex/violence/alcohol/smoking/whips/chains/dental hardware is not at issue. Their forcing ALL of mainland people with certain keywords in their advertising to uproot and move to one small landmass - that is the problem. And in the end, people walking around mainland will still see people humping away in their houses or on unadvertised poseball stores here and there. So honestly, this accomplishes nothing with a huge amount of effort on everyone's part.

We've said over and over that if they'd make Ursula a rated G land for all new members, educators, corporations and the teens, then NOTHING naughty can be seen there. ANY Xrated item is ARable in the G-rated continent. And the only way the new SL members can leave Ursula and go to the rest of the world is to verify, as inaccurate and pointless as that is. This then would create a VR world even your Sunday School teacher could enjoy while not destroying thousands of people's creations over half a decade of building.

But LL doesn't seem to be listening to us. It's not the seperation we object to - it's who is being segregated, by what means, and what words we can and can't say in Mark's Brave New World V2.0.

Dear Mosley, please pay attention to the following with respect to that avatar:

~~ does Professor Quirrel imitation ~~

TROLL! TROLL IN THE DUNGEONS!

Thought you should know.

This is our wonderful world, and for those that want it, we keep our porn here!
... and ...
This is our wonderful porn world, but we have a place that you can be safe!

I would like to know how this affects the huge Star Wars Roleplay community in SL?

Does a RP sim have to be labelled as "adult" due to roleplayed depictions of death if someone comes along and decides to have a battle?

As combat is only a small part of roleplay in these sims labelling as "adult" would detract from the main purpose...

I might have already missed a similar question in pages and pages of posts about this subject, sorry, but I would really like to know where I stand on this... I run my mainstore and dance club business in the same sim and this would obviously impact on them too