Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

This is why we all have to fight this and get the information to as many people as we can because who will be next?

I vote for that!

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That about say's it all

Completely agree - but I am not at all surprised that they haven't, seeing the "warm" reception they have been given....

That doesn't seem to be "en vogue" for this forum. However, if it WERE moderated, I think the screams of "CENSORSHIP" would be even louder....

Exactly, just look at previous policies/proposed policies/opinions and the list is frightening. Furries and child avatars both have a lot of unfounded persecution out there. Some of the stuff about child avatars is even in LL policy. Those are the two I follow the most closely, but how many other groups are also in the same boat?

I think you'll find that the majority opinion on this is favourable.

Why? Because in general people will see it as managing the content better and keeping it from the kids. You can't argue with that at all.

I'll lay bets that the majority of content creators who support this own their own island (or 20). They don't go anywhere near mainland for a start and will just flip their island over to adult if they feel they need to. I would think that most are well aware that they'll lose some sales but are balancing it by making an assumption that with the npiof's gone there will be a reduction in the idiots that spam/grief and generally cause havoc.

I also suggest that another perceived benefit to them is the reduction in the small npiof trader who is selling what they believe to be either ripped, biab or poor quality items. From the point of cleaning out what they believe to be rogue traders it has merit.

What they won't be doing is packing and moving in 9 days after being forced to compromise on their land choice because it's not a like for like swap, nor losing their search positions or landmarks. They won't need to rebox all their items or vendors with those new landmarks or deal with items that are part of their build but the owner has since left sl.. They're oblivious to all of this because they've forgotten what it's like to be a small trader.

What they're also not seeing are the people who are borderline or just plainly wrongly caught up in it - like our bird creator.

If LL had just posted a final policy in all the major language groups with a fixed date and given everyone who wanted to go something like 2 months to move and make those 2 months tier free there would have been a lot less angst. There still will be those that howl and certainly still a lot of sadness from those who will have to give up their prized land, but at least there would have been a cushion for those that chose to move rather than give up their lifestyle/business to stay where they are.

and the time could then have been spent sifting through the grey areas.

It appears that most people are howling because they think they're losing choice both in their ability to access adult content and/or that the land they bought for unrestricted use has now been restricted without compensation.

Of course there's the issue of Aristotle which again is only an issue for those who know anything about it's practices and the not fit for purpose software LL are using to manage it. I think you'll find most people are cool with that too as they think it really does prove they're an adult.

Making businesses move but with a generous goodwill incentive and putting that jira in would have sorted most of this.

For all the noise and drama, the majority will do nothing about it. That's the way of the world.

and really, i have seen absolutely no change in the proposed policy since it started.. the only real difference comes from that policy posted on the website which I have no reason to doubt will end up staying pretty well unchanged. No matter what the unoffical approach taken is.

/me mutters lots of darkly cynical remarks about LL, life and people in general.

edited to add:

and the ones I feel sorry for are those who have no land and just have mall space. If the mall goes to ursula the pg vendors are homeless and if the mall stays pg the adult vendors are homless.. this goes for both islanders and mainland vendors. Occasionally they've come in here and asked questions, yet no one is out there supporting them as far as i can see.. market equilibrium will occur eventually but just as landowners who don't get the swap are afraid of the speculators, imagine what it will be like for those adult content sellers who will have a choice between extortionate rentals or packing in their business?

Which brings up another question!

Assuming that the "Ad" for the shop selling it is acceptable for mature or even possibly PG(depends on the rest of the content), what happens if the item is checked show in search.

If it would make you feel better, I have some uncensored pics too. I can even bust out the blindfold.

there is no dangling meat.

there won't be any "dangling meat" until flexi sculpts are rolled out. and flaccid members will be the first to hit the street like the member flags when flexis hit the street.

I love your tits now that will make a great poster

Only from people who don't actually understand it.

Sure you can. "This doesn't manage content better and it doesn't keep kids away from porn". And show why not.

Except that it doesn't do that either, since most of them aren't selling "adult content" and if they are they don't have enough investment in it to matter.

The biggest problem, long term, isn't going to be the effect on businesses. EVERYONE who wants to move should be given the same offer.

I really don't think it matters.
A suggestion - even if by a Linden- that a public parcel outside of Ursula or AO-flagged PI would be officially permitted to have accessible Adult content on it has to be nonsense.
It's totally counter-"predictability".

If large adult content creators/suppliers have their own islands then they could, had they so chosen, restricted access to their locations by simply checking PIOF or AV only before now. They chose not to do so. These changes offer them nothing.

You have to understand that such is predicated on the notion that he is "simply a messenger".

The problem is that he has presented, and continues to present, as an architect.

In general, a messenger does everything possible to distance himself from the message, because otherwise, he is seen as being biased, and the message is considered tainted and, quite possibly, intentionally misrepresented upon delivery.

In simpler words, if a messenger has a stake in the message, the message itself is suspect.

My argument would be it's little more than a veneer on both counts. While minimal account verification for a minority of racy content is a little better than nothing, that's all it is.

PG and Mature regions are still scattered together willy nilly, adult content is still permitted in Mature regions. At least theoretically. We'll see how that works out in practice I guess.

The policy seems to benefit land speculators more than anyone else.

and I suggest to you that 99% of the majority in here don't come in here to analyse things, like the rest of the world they believe the pr spin because it means they don't have to think.



absolutely. LL are changing the T&Cs and they should make the offer open to everyone. That kind of pressure has more chance of success than trying to get LL to drop the idea.

At one point, there was a very small few that were trying to get an alternate viewpoint across. I know ... I was one of them.

It wasn't being jumped on, screamed at or some sort of fear that caused me to stop. I was sick of being massively taken out of context, and lacking a better term, having people just invent out of thin air, things I never actually said ... for instance, post #5582, which invents a logic that was never expressed by me in any way.

So, it becomes the mother of all banality after a while. I'll post here because it's interesting, and I have two people in world that took me up on my offer here to help them get moved ... we spent a couple hours this weekend working ahead ... but I'll keep my more substantial views to myself.

Now up to Ursula 318... gee.. think it's more than 2-4% now guys?

and the bubbles too??

LL i can sum this plan up with a good old Anglo saxon word.

A load of Bollocks

The word is often used figuratively in British English, as a noun to mean "nonsense", an expletive following a minor accident or misfortune, or an adjective to mean "poor quality" or "useless".

You are cruel

Kalderi,
I haven't read alot of thoughts about your views on this "Adult Content" matter but I have read some posts from you about how we treat people with a different viewpoint bad. If you have any kind of viewpoint on the actual topic please post it. I would be glad to read it.

I'm kinda getting tired of hearing people cry "mistreatment". If people want to post nobody is stopping them. But if someone is rude and egotistical then I am sure there will be people who will point that out to them. So far only Magus/Lillani has gotten a bad reception here as far as I can tell. And I am sure that if her/his first post was not rude and/or missunderstood then that wouldn't have happened.

We keep calling on people to post their views here. But, apparently, there just arent' many people that support this issue. If there are then they don't feel a need to post because they know its going through anyway. Why would they waste their time trying to help us understand just why this is a good thing?

Most of us aren't against this. We are against how its being done and the fact that we can't get clear answers.

There's a guy posted on the Xstreet forums who thinks that all this will prevent a situation where a business meeting can be interrupted by an avatar handing out hard-core porn.

Yup! You're absolutely right there.
You can't argue with that at all.


Many people can only think about an issue as it relates to themselves alone.
If the issue that they are considering is just something their crazed imaginings have invented, there is absolutely no arguing with them.

ahh yes, but everyone else is forced onto the level playing field now.

It's interesting that one of the highest rating smut sellers doesn't even mark the ad or parcel mature despite having a sex room and traffic of 124k..

forcing everyone down the route levels it up all along the board.

Level, except for the ones forced to move from their current mainland locations.

And anyone who wants to start an adult business in the future. They'll be faced with the requirement of doing business on Ursula, and potentially looking at Nautilus prices to do so.