Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

They could say "Clothing based on that crappy book series by John Norman"

I'm getting really tired of Blondin's use of the word 'probably'.

I'd rather that people who were in favor of this would speak up some more. The few that I've talked to seemed to take LLs word that this was a really great project and didn't think it through much more than that.

It would be nice if people who supported the project could speak up and explain their views without having everybody jumping on them. If what they think LL is doing turns out to be incorrect, talking will work better than screaming.

I wouldn't mind having a moderator step up to keep this thread more on-focus and less hostile to people with different views. I'm disappointed in LL that they sent us here to discuss one of the hottest topics without any moderation...

I think I might have gotten free tits from your place recently. I got free tits from someone, anyway. I'll have to check on where I got my tits when I'm next in-world.

i think you will find there is a slight difference between lynching and boycotting, i could be wrong though.

i personally have nothing against people who are for the LL gulag, its just that i dont like shitty attitudes from people knocking their own competition.

Blondin -

In post #4640 You said:

"A BDSM club would be adult
A Store selling BDSM gear would be mature"

In post #4646 You said: (in regards to sex animations being sold in stores)

"We understand people would want to test out products before they buy them.
This is expected and reasonable on a mature region"

BY YOUR WORDS you just made our store, selling BDSM devices, some of which have sex functions. MATURE IN THE STORE.

Then explain to me WHY THE FRACK THE SLOWLY BEING DISCOVERED LIST OF 'VERBOTEN' WORDS INCLUDES -

BDSM, Bondage, Dominatrix, Domme, Dungeon, Ponygirl, Ponyplay, Fetish, Submissive

NONE OF WHICH ARE A SEXUAL TERM BUT SURE HAS HELL WIPE OUT EVERY MEANINGFUL REFERENCE TO BDSM STORES!

WHAT KIND OF SHELL GAME IS BEING PLAYED HERE?

SOME HONEST ANSWERS FOR ONCE!!!!

I agree, Couldbe. Every time an official update has come out, parts of it have contradicted what Blondin told us.

Also the new blocked-word situation, which makes non-Ursula non-"AO" communities unfindable on the mainland for Unverifieds (such as the non-sexual BDSM-support community)... well, this also contradicts the way Blondin has been "explaining" the changes to us.

In fact, Blondin's statements in the forum threads have had so many contradictions to the official announcements, that we must be forced to some assumptions.

1. The higher-ups keep lying to Blondin and he doesn't know it.
or
2. The higher-ups keep lying to Blondin and he knows it, but his job requires that he keep coming in here trying to dialogue with us.
or
3. The higher-ups are telling Blondin the truth, but he's not passing those truths on to us.
or
4. The higher-ups and Blondin think they are giving out the same information, but the higher-ups don't know how to write so they are putting out announcements that don't say anything how they mean to say them...

I could go on, but essentially, we have seen that we cannot actually count on any of Blondin's "answers" because the next Official Announcement might contradict him.

I feel very bad for Blondin because I'm qute sure he never asked to be placed in this embarrassing situation.

This can change every second in SL per person. That is why everyone should have the right to swap for free to be further able to act spontaneous and creative without a cutter in the head.

John isn't on the filter then?

It is a problem if you do not do anything.
Even though I own land on a mature sim, nearly all of my activities in SL would be rated PG by even linden standards.

So, by your logic I should do nada, right? Wrong. I am an officer in '*I* am Adult Content', have been to office hours to talk about this, and am a regular in this discussion. I do see that this will force neighbors to move and how simillar policies could affect anyone in SL the next time the herd gets culled.

Sorry, that is against the Tao of Linden.

We don't know yet if advertisements or land descriptions will be rejected.

What we do know, is if you have the Adult checkbox on that tab in search unchecked, then adult keywords will not be used in that search. Gorean silks will be searched the same as "silks". The word "Gorean" is simply ignored for that search, like you never typed it. You also get a bottom right popup message telling you some of your search terms were not used due to content controls.

(that is how I am finding the filtered words, enter one at a time, and see if the popup appears)

Shhhh don't give them more ideas.

I am in favor of the ban on gambling in SL, for the same reason I'm in favor of the ban on organizations that aren't actually banks pretending to act as banks.
I cared, I cared enough to suggest restrictions on OpenSpace that might have headed off the disaster, and got spammed for it.

So then, since we can't use "Second Life" (tm) without permission out there, can we say "The Game/Platform/Thingie inspired by that crappy book by Neal Stephenson"?

evil idea ....

What if people replaced the verboten words with words LL would not *dare* ban and then circulated the substitutions to everyone else?

M: "Why is Linden suddenly on the naughty word list?"

Well then you are the epitome of empathy. Now shut up before I play "Pop goes the Weasel".

Please show me anywhere where I said that was my logic.

There is a big difference between these two statements:
This doesn't affect me.
I don't care.

People that make linkage between them, when none exist ... are the ones creating the problem, and the reason there is no reasonable discussion on this board.

Even more important than what his answers are, are whether his answers count. If the sole official word is the Knowledge Base and Blog, nothing he says here matters.

So, Mr Blondin Linden, are your answers here official policy for Linden Labs, or just your informed opinion? Or possibly "answers given are for the purpose of discussion and soliciting comments, which will be reviewed by the linden staff as an input to our planning"

This is a key point.

I'm quite sure that adult content vendors have asked for better zoning. I'm quite sure they've asked for better protection against underage players.

The problem is that LL is spinning us. They are citing these quite reasonable requests as indications that the adult content vendors are in favor of THIS particular implementation.

And that's yet another lie.

Of all the adult content vendors...club owners, content creators...that I've heard from only ONE has spoken in favor of LL's proposed policy.

It's just like LL's policy on Open Space/Homestead sims. They said, "We've heard you, and we're making the following changes..." when it was crystal clear that they had not heard and responded with a satisfactory set of changes at all.

From what I've understand on the search thing, if my business advert says "join the group against sexual discrimination", it will not appear in search for non-adult because it has the word "sexual", even if the search is made with the word "discrimination"

What a great set of tits!

At least if people add the posts they consider relevant to http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_Content it might be a little harder for them to completely disavow them. I've been putting some in there but it's a wiki, anyone can add their own favorites.