Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I agree. I thought from the very start that Linden was selling me an Adult environment. So, I think they should give me now what I thought they were giving me when I bought into it, rather I earn the Adult label or not. Probably they will, and it will have the most Lag of anywhere in SL. Maybe I should keep some friends who are out of the adult section.
BT

Since I have no perv balls or any of that stuff I won't qualify to move. But that means I won't be able to advertise the stuff i made to wear that needs to be described as useful for adult activities. And since you can't advertise these things outside of the place you will not be allowed to move to then Linden Lab is effectively putting businesses down. The FTC might be interested in this since it is interesting that a company could have sold a platform as an international commerce platform for years luring thousands of people to give them millions of dollars and then said company forms what is tantamount to their own government with regulations and laws without representation and then commences deciding who can be in business for what.

So the solution is simple. Second Life is no longer a business platform. Except for people stealing trademarks and copyrighted content. some people are making over a million dollars USD a year at blatant theft. LL is getting loads of cash from those operations with the knowledge that there is stolen content and stolen trademarks being sold. Reporting known trademark infringement is not allowed.

Great place for criminal operations.

You can not stop underage to logg in to seconlife or any other internet page, as loong as some can use a kayboard or mobilphone or other tools thay can get in to pages online, you can trye to limit them by some tools but you can never do it 100%

There are also adults out there that give underage a PW, to stop it 100% you got to close the whole internet.
And kids are smart, thay usly find ways to crack and hack.
All LL can do here are to trye to prevent underage to get in to adult places, but thay can never stop it 100%

Boobs, bosoms and tits, oh my!

Hello Milla,

The filter makes it so that Unverifieds cannot locate available products on Mature land.

Even though Blondin said stores would not be affected as strongly as playspaces.

Some of us merchants did casual automated surveying, and found that 40-60% of store visitors are Unverified. One merchant did manual surveying and found that nearly this many were PAYING customers.

PG users are indeed not our target market. But there are a number of people unable to Verify (particularly nonUSA), who want to be able to find these stores, but won't see them in Search.

A big problem. Even if someone refuses to fight the battle due to the fundamental unfairness (and many problems) it creates, they are ignoring that it sets a *dangerous* precedent for the next 'undesirable' group.

I agree. I know my PG half-sim is worth about a pack of gum right now, and that will probably go down before it goes up ... assuming it ever does.

I'm also bothered that while Blondin did back off the new PG definition ... they did actually put enough thought into it, to put something in writing. It might be something we see in the future.

And what is keeping them from stealing mom's DL while they are at it and making a copy?

Sorry to hear of your genuine concern Mosely - this whole ill thought badly planned and worse executed exercise is rapidly descending into farce and ridicule. Maybe that's what it's going to take to make them see some sense - laugh at them!

Just as well you don't make Shags and Swallows too

That is a certainty. About 15% of teens under 18 have credit cards in their own names. Add the ones who borrow the use of their parent's cards (with or without permission) or enter fake ID information to the Aristotle system, plus a small percentage that simply log in to a legitimately verified adult's account, and you have a *lot* that will still get into SL.

Having said that, the current system (enter date of birth when creating an account), only blocks 10% of teens from the adult grid, in my best guess. A new system that blocks half or two thirds of teens from adult areas is not perfect, but its definitely an improvement.

Compare this to smoking: Approximately 90 percent of all smokers start before age 18; the average age for a new smoker is 13. That is despite laws that dont allow selling tobacco to underage teens. It's pretty much built into teenagers to want to do things adults do, or are told they cannot do.

And in an online situation, any attempt to exclude teens will work less well than a convenience store or strip club in real life, where you can see the teen and their ID live and in person.

There is a system that's different than "Show ID or credit card once, verified ever after." This uses challenge questions each time you want to use the service. Things like "mothers maiden name", but also "where did you get your first driver's license" or "who was the president before Bush?". Its not 100% perfect either, and certainly is a pain when you just want to get logged in and get on with things (my bank does it). But it would keep out more underage players.

Maturity is not controlled by the calendar, either. Some young people are very mature, and some twentysomethings are not at all.

People who have been here long enough might remember the ratings in profiles. Yet another way to screen who visits your land could be a ratings system. +1 point for buying at your store, -1 point for acting immature, points applied by anyone on anyone. Then you can optionally set a minimum score to enter your land. Right now we have an all or nothing system, ban or not ban, AR and get their account deleted, or not. One that allows each landowner to decide "hmm, I dont want anyone below -10 here" would give us more options.

Thank you, and its time to get off our asses, stand up and say collectively "THIS SUCKS".

Yes, you can all do this with me.

THIS SUCKS.

This isn't some bleeding heart anti-war protest, or fighting against big oil, but this is many of our homes. Changing fundamental rules about how we go about our daily lives in this virtual world in a negative way for many SUCKS.

Jump on that bandwagon, people. Your apathy is an uncast vote one way or the other that will never be heard.

Show your tits! Show your tits!


Really, post pictures of them.

I repeat this proposition again because there was no response either from LL or other residents:

Would you agree to all the changes to adult content except one - age verification/payment info on file. if someone want to access adult content, the window will pop up and then they will need to answer YES or NO.

In my opinion it is a good consensus in this situation. Watch carefully what LL answer will be. If they answer 'no' then it is obvious that descrtuction of adult content creators/business or at least significant reducton of this content is the main purpose of this new policy

Originally Posted by Blondin Linden
Many others would simply need to remove a word or two from their land info or search tags and they would be fine on Mature.

You are publicly stating that we should 'play' with the keywords in order to be rated as mature. Now watch carefully of what you are writing here, because this way almost every adult content creator can remain on mature by simply using different keywords. this will lead into complete chaos. Some places will post content on mature region and of course some will be removed by you but since you publicly stating that you won't be able to monitor all content then this will spread into a very nasty thing. Censorship never works. All sl residents, new and old have the same right to access adult content exactly like it happens over the web. Watch playboy magazine website, all you need to do there is to click "Yes, I am over 18 and I agree to see adult content" There is no verification required. You actions are obvious. The significant reduction of adult content in SL is your goal. You do not want to protect anybody. You just want to send the clear message: do not involve in adult business in SL because it is not worth it.

Its only a big problem if you make the connection PawPaw is making by linking being unaffected, with not caring.

I certainly find it funny on some level, but it's probably just gallows humour


Swallows are on my to-do list, cocks-I-mean-roosters, too. Probably should add blue-footed boobies as well ...

You could make a comparison to any rights group if you want to tiptoe around trap laden subjects. Do only women fight for women's rights?

Yeah, I know its cheap, but there you go.

That would certainly be a step in the right direction!

Even better would be to have a new PG continent and a new adult continent and not force anybody to move. Doing that and losing the foolish 'verification' stuff that everybody knows won't keep RL kids off the grid would almost make this project tolerable.

Careful not to name her - the crowd here will be calling for another public lynching.... (oops, boycott, sorry)...

It is a roadside office advertised to help with SL Divorces in leonhard. In this office there is a copier a desk etc. That contain sex engines, also there is my own 'home' behind a wall that is very accesible. Some of our clients have a bit of imagination on how to roleplay their divorce or celebrate it with us and these ways would include very adult themes. So where it is not advertised for adult content but simply as a sl divorce office adult content occurs and is accesible.

It is human nature though, especially in SL.

Gambling Ban? Most people went "Meh". I don't gamble anyway. Open space? Once again, most people really didn't care.VAT? Remember the transatlantic pissing contest that became? "You Euros are a bunch of Socialist whiners!" "You Americans think the world revolves around you. LL is favoring you!!"......For the most part, people won't get off the tracks until the train is about to hit them.

Wow, you have figured out how to see a lawyer and literally get f**ked. I'm impressed.

How is this word filter going to work? If someone has a store on mature land selling Gorean silks and Gorean clothing will an advert be rejected?

You're bringin' me down, but you're right. Unless somebody is actively taking the beer bottle out of your hand, you won't cry when your county is turning 'dry'.

*sigh* Lazy bastards

Yes, we certainly couldn't expect people to stand behind their opinions.