Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

When a region goes does down (forgive the pun) an account will be redirected to a infohub based on the account's set maturity level. PG accounts (those who do not opt to access Adult Content) will not be sent to an Adult hub, nor will Adult accounts be sent to PG hubs.

I am in the middle of contacting independent press and inform them that our customer rights are seriously abused here. I will not stand here and look how years of work are being destroyed. Sorry, but we are all sick of this.

Blondin, I thought you were restarting at p271.. so far I haven't seen any of those questions answered

Well said Balthazar, couldn't agree more. Shipping everyone and their content off to another mainland is an unbelievably crazy idea, at worst just put an adult material content warning on relevent sims, I mean how many people actually wander into wild sex dungeons by mistake? But I guess if sex offends people so much we'll have to keep them happy, all 8 of em.

Can KB 6010 be expanded to clearly explain what is meant by phrases like "advertising and hosting public adult content".

I thought this, too, and brought it up several weeks ago. There was a response, I think from Jack Linden, that that poll was NOT used to equate residents' wish for a "predictable" SL experience" with "we don't wanna see sex".

Which still leaves the question, Who DID complain to LL about all the nasty sex and violence? "Numerous residents", they say. Show us the numbers, LL.

Okay. So, 6 weeks ago, all you wanted to do was move a mere 2-4 % of businesses to a specific landmass.

Today, you are banning nipples, even uttering the word booze, virtual drinking, fake smoking, toking up, fake guns and video game shooting ...

I have to admit, you slid down the slippery slope quicker than I expected.

And you guys REALLY think we are going to keep forking over tons of money to stay in a place where you will ban us for saying the word "Beer"?

Is this determined by verification status or the check boxes in the viewer?

But the only adult hub doesn't allow naked avatars.

There will be a lot of hard nipples then with all the ice

Okay that's a ban for you, for both sex crime and using the word Ice which is a slang term for an illicit drug.

No soup for you! Three weeks!

I agree. People like that before posting anything so scandalous on the forums should enter credit card number, driver license, and should be screened by FBI.

That is correct



Selling adult content does not automatically flag the store as adult. Look at the key words and how you advertise it. A lot of people will be able to skirt this whole issue by changing a few words in their descriptions.

Blondin-

Will not a lot of essentially PG residents have settings that allow them to see Ursula though? From the definitions, it sounds like pretty much everything will be there, so people will *have* to set their viewers to adult in order for, say, their fave clothing stores or mixed use sim to come up. Even though they are just shopping for PG stuff, a lot of content providers have not distinguished in what they produced before now.

Bravo, bravo!!
/me stands and applauds wildly.

THIS, Lindens. THIS!!!!

For gods' sake, PLEASE listen. Your definitions are arbitrary gas (as they must be, no matter how smart the writers are...and yours, so far, are pretty low on the scale, I'm sorry to say). The vast, vast majority of your customers don't want this. It's 180 degrees from the SL we were promised.

Let the nannies relocate (voluntarily, I'm not for forcing ANYONE) to Ursula. Let the rest of us adults get on with the adult choices and the adult entertainment and, yes, by god, the adult content we signed up for.

Not to mention that the private estates are going to get a flood of refugees from the mainland.

Not all of us will fit on Ursula.

Selling adult content does not automatically flag the store as adult. Look at the key words and how you advertise it. A lot of people will be able to skirt this whole issue by changing a few words in their descriptions.[/QUOTE]

Sell=Offer to others as freebies or for lindens..to sell you need to market/advertise...how can you sell and be found in search if you cannot market the adult content to a maximum audience? Do we have to start advertising spherical objects in fetching shades of blue and pink whose script content can make your non photo-realistic attachments engage in activities of a possible interesting nature depending on your own sensibilities....?

Would i want to risk keeping a store selling patently adult items in a mature area in the hope customers happen upon it? and the puritans or troublemakers dont AR me for not being in Adultopia? NO

Make that 2-4% of SL WILL NOT have/want to move

Still makes me wonder though and personally i do not trust anything any Linden says at the moment because they are being instructed what to say and i am sure Jack is not privy to every decision LL makes or knows how they use the data collected in these polls. The same happened when the Adobe servers where all the personal information was stored like copies of ID, Passports etc. etc. was left wide open for several months so anyone could view it and download ID information, we were told exactly what to say and what not to say, even having briefings from the Adobe upper echelons about it.

LL is no different and they will spin whatever they are told to spin, because they want to keep their jobs and not face disciplinary procedures if they break the rules and i cannot blame them with all the unemployment going on worldwide at the moment.

I understand the reasons for them not being honest with, yes they may be truthful. as truth can be manipulated to serve the purpose they wish it to, but honesty from LL in all of this, it will never happen as we cannot change honesty and all know what it means, so honesty is not a word in LL circles towards the customers.

I am as i have always said in favor of a separate adult continent with stricter controls on access, however what i am starting to see is a gradual growth of the guidelines as to what is adult and more and more people are going to get caught in this mess, it is spreading already to PG and i truly wonder what LL's long term plans are in all of this, but they won't tell us because i am sure if we knew the long term plans a lot more of us would cut back now and they would lose more monthly revenues than perhaps they have forecast.

We will have to see

I have to admit, if a true poll were taken and asked how many people want absolutely no possibilty of adult activity or content in the SL, THAT would be your 2-4%.The other 96% while maybe not here primarlily for it, would want the option of being readily available, and to avail themselves of it without hassle or shame.And most of them would probably agree that it should be well managed and organized, not in your face. Sexy and kinky does not have to mean sleazy. there is a lot of base raunch that needs to be tidied up, but that can be done pretty much with existing policy. But I do agree that the real 2-4% should be the targets of any new continent. Advertise it to the hilt as the family friendly SL experience. Let the existing continents shake themselves out, no more Mature regions next to PG. Go by the majority of region, if it is M, then encourage PG players to relocate, if the majority is PG to the same for M players. Then take the steps necessary to fix the advertising issues, and enforce continental guidelines. Ity may take longet to 'Clean up" SL, but I think it would make most residents happier.

Is the purpose of the skybox to act as a sex club? Can you explain what you mean by 'a more adult nature'?

Okay, this has really gone way too far. You started off with a simple problem and you have chosen the worst possible solution every step of the way.

Take a look at what you originally wanted to do. You wanted to move the sexual oriented businesses to a specific landmass - that's all. And look what you are trying to do now, only a couple of weeks down the road from the original annoucement.

Ban on nipples.
Ban on drinking, even though this isn't real.
Ban on smoking, even though this isn't real.
Ban on shooting and "killing" even though this isn't real.
Ban on blood, even though it still isn't real.
Ban on speaking about sex, drugs, alcohol. Just what kind of American ARE you?

Have you ever heard of the slippery slope argument? You are proving it to be a fact, not just a theory, with every new decree and pronouncement from on high.

If you and the people you are trying to make happy want a pretty, happy little version of Disneyland, then create it for them. It's not hard to keep everyone happy in SL if everyone has a place to go to do their own thing. But what you are doing now is getting rid of a lot of things, and making SL utterly useless to us.

Here's the thing guys. Ask yourself just what is it that you sell us? I'll tell you what you sell us - FANTASY. Second Life is a fantasy world where we can be things we can't in RL and do things we can't in RL.

Nothing more.

If you remove our abilities to play, if you take away our fantasies, then the harsh reality is that we'll have zero reason to use SL anymore. If you cannot even say the word "Beer", then why 2.5K$ a year for a sim on the mainland? You honestly expect us to keep paying you when you will ban people for having a fake drink in their fake hand while discussing the war on drugs without a shirt on? In a video game?

You sell adults a way to play "Make Believe" and that's ALL you sell. The other uses and potential uses of the tech don't even come close to paying all the bills. If they did, then the mainland would be full of colleges and schools instead of homes and playgrounds. You have lost sight of what your product is for and what your customers expect. And that is a mistake which NO company has ever survived. This mindless and short-sighted effort at cleaning up a mainland that really doesn't need cleaning up will be the first and last nail in the coffin that is your business plan. If you remove people's Fantasies from the grid, if you try to make Second Life a cleaned up and homogenized version of Real Life, then we'll save our money and just stay in Real Life.

Take a good hard look at what you are about to do to SL. Banning people for saying the word Vodka? Trying to enforce drinking and smoking bans in a video game? Telling consenting adults on their own paid-for regions that they can't play with guns or talk dirty or take off their fake clothing? And you think we'll keep paying you money to censor us like this?

Honestly gents. If you are so out of touch that you don't understand that what you sell is a way for adults to play "Let's Pretend" and you think we are paying you to be our grannys and tell us what to do, then you deserve to go bankrupt. If you don't comprehend what your customers want, then by the great force of the marketplace you deserve to fail in flaming fashion.

I was banished to the cornfield! But I'm back

so, 3982 mainland mature and 1421 pg... I would say this demonstrates just how little demand there has been for pg land up until now.

Nipples, arse, crack, hash, E's, LSD, coke, booze and a pussy i saw all of this on my trip today into Amsterdam, admittedly the pussy was a fluffy thing in a cafe tho and the drugs apart from the hash was being offered by a colored chap walking up the street and the nipples i saw in some of the windows i had to walk past and i add to that so were a lot of grannies, families and youngsters walking through the red light area on a gorgeous sunny day and i don't think any of us were affected and i didn't even mention the sex shops with all the wares on display in the windows

We're really not allowed to talk about alcohol??? Where was that said? o.O;;;