Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

See, this is why I think that iranian, afhganian, iraki, pakistanian and some arab people are totally stupid. They try to hit the USA with whatever tricks and weapons and guerilla tactics, wich is pure stupidness and too much effort.

All they would need, were to rezz a giant *nipple* over Washington.

This is the only way, to make the world leading champions of all classes really nervous.

A *nipple* is THE recommended weapon of mass irritation. Not violence or any explosion cult, because that makes them only yawning.

A *nipple*. one 10 miles huge inflatable *rubber-nipple* and the states are paralized and conquered.

Woody Allen was the man, who adressed this phenomen first.

http://ricacruz.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/giant-breast-woody-allen_l.jpg

That could be a problem on Arapaima tho:

No Shooting,
Blood, or
Violence

No Buying,
Selling,
Begging, or
Recruiting

No Sex,
Nudity, or
Offensive
Language

No Annoying
Repatative, or
Adult sounds

Dammed if you do dammed if you don't!


PS. With no nudity at adult hubs,
well... so much for the fix for unavailable region moves & being undressed!

My dear lady, I sincerely apologize if I have given offense, and of course, both you and your boss are entitled to any opinion (or even *no* opinion) that you care to have. I would never wish to give the impression that I thought otherwise, and I regret any harm I have caused by my words.

But my point remains. I was not referring to your personal convictions, but to Couldbe's comment on your post. Nor was I calling you a prude, or saying anything other then that you *did not want your estate to be rated "adult"*.
Whether or not you condone "Adult Content" is immaterial. You (or your Boss rather) doesn't want your island to be rated "adult".

Linden Labs is counting on that sort of attitude to keep the number wanting the free move to Ursula small (there is an awful lot of "mature" mainland after all), and to "encourage" those who don't qualify for the free swap (or more likely, those over the number they have planned for) *to clean up their parcels*.

The fact is- many private estate owners will feel the same way as your boss. this means that "adult" residents and Merchants will have to find a new place to live. Also, many private estate owners will choose to be "adult", forcing the Unverified, and even those who simply don't wish to be categorized as such, to *also* find new places to live.

LL is limiting *everyone's* options here, and they are counting on the "stigma" of an "adult" designation to hold a lid on the number of landowners who will move to Ursula or set their estates to "adult" out of sheer pique, or the desire to preserve *all* of their options for land use.

Does your desire to remain "Mature" so that your customers aren't mislead by your rating as to what services are on offer, invalidate any of what I've said?

I submit that it does not.

So, while I apologize for not being clearer in saying that I wasn't speaking of you in particular, The rest will have to stand. There *is* a stigma, and LL is banking that it will be strong enough to make their "2%-4%" figure even *close* to accurate.

-V-

Well, "policed" can also be "cleaned up", "neat" or "organized" as in "not messy"
More the definition I was going for, see?

-V-

I don't think I ever actually saw one. I'm still up for it though.

"And the cost savings couldn't have been more real!"

I bet neither could the lag-

-V-

We're working on ways to link alts to primary accounts but it will not be a part of the initial roll out.

Many of the forum posters were in fact invited and attended the land and definition brown bags.

That's a good questions and I'm not sure. Let me ask and I'll get back to you.

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http://www.secondlifegrid.net/casestudies

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The US Army is in game.

The Austrian Army will never be in game. They like real beer much more.

Define "many".

Well, you know, I've read the documents and LL's statements and all the rest if it. I said it was crap at the start and i still say it's crap now but i don't suppose there is anything anyone can do to stop LL proceeding with this lunacy. As over 18 adults we must be protected from over 18 adult content!

I'm wondering how far the lunacy will be taken: Will the act of attaching a leash to the collar of a slave be adult? With the depiction of Jesus nailed to the cross be defined as "Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm)"? Will Donald duck have to wear long pants? Will pantyless skirts be banned? Will the Lindens ever get themselves AOs and stop duck-walking all over the place which itself is worse than anything i have ever seen in SL?

Blondin- Look at:

"CM Designs , JDs Estate (93, 157, 29)"

There's one on the second floor of the building, right next to the midnight mania board

-V-

I understand your frustration with all of this. However griefing takes many forms. Freenising is only a tiny aspect of this. Griefing ranges from sim-crashing thru voice-smirking to pretending to threaten to commit rl suicide if you dont be my friend, and a whole host of other such nasties. Simply being able to flag your land and estates as Adult is going to cut out a lot of this nonsense. Adult meaning only people with grownup adult attitudes can come to my land and my estates. Being able to hold a board meeting in a strip club without some immature idiot with a throwaway account putting a freenis on your head is a good thing. Specially if the people you are meeting with are prospective investors in your business.

Freenising all by itself in a PG region is not a biggie really. I dont freak at freenises. Laugh usually and give them a LM to where they can get a real pixel one rather than the picture of a pixel one they wearing =) Those who choose to set their Homes to PG mainland arent all limp dicks and fainting wallflowers.

I was there. I remember.

All the more reason to make the "PG" sims the *protected designation*. Turn ursula into disneyland, and require verification to go *there*

-V-

Going to Bed. I'm on page 271.

And the midnight mania board needs like 138 more names. Bring friends.

Blondin you call that an answer??

She say and i quote, in-world 'brown bag' meetings that we held to discuss specific groups affected by this initiative,

So who went? Jack said you could provide name. See i ahve surveyed well voer 300 major adult content providers now and not one of them has been consulted, talked to or invited to anything.

Today at the meeting with jack it was clear major sim and Land holdrs were never consulted, tlaked ot or invited.

So who exactly effected by this was at the Merchants meeting? Who was at the Land Owners Meeting??

Well I did ask for this way way back in this thread somewheres, but I been ignored. Is a little bit frustrating this as well =)

And I want to buy a parcel on an Outlaw mainland continent as well so I can zoom all over shooting anyone I like anytime I like. Can do at Rausch but is tiny place and hard to ambush people there. A whole continent though ooo! be great =)

Thanks for posting where you are in this thread, Blondin.

I have another question - I assume any store could be defined as public area, right? So will I be held responsible if visitors of my store (mature mainland) are "performing" some kind of adult activity or are "displaying" adult bits on their avatars while visiting (or use adult language in public chat) even though I don't offer adult related products?

Will I have to spam visitors with notecards that state dressing codes and other rules of how they have to behave according to the sim's mature rating (or place signs with rules every 10 meters)?

I have always believed in live and let live and let visitors pretty much do as they please, so having to set up some kind of rules wouldn't really make me happy...

Apology accepted. It just seemed from the way your phrased it that it was directed at me.




This is a large part of the reason all these new region policies concern me. It just seems like far too many people will be affected, even on estates such as ours, which have tried to be a neutral social area for all. And as I mentioned, the unverified will be excluded, and therefore disenfranchised in a big way. Not to mention that it's *just* as unfair to disenfranchise those who own, sell, or use adult content.



While I don't, (and I doubt my Boss does either) see any stigma on Adult designations, it *does* limit the options for everyone. It certainly does for *us*. From what I can see, our estate will be forced to choose which group we want to exclude - the unverified (and those who are having trouble verifying) or those who are interested in adult activity. And sadly, it will probably be the latter that lose out with us, since from a commerce point of view, we can't lose those renters that are not/cannot be verified. But the point may be academic, since many may leave anyway, because they can no longer pursue the activities they want to pursue without having to be locked away on one continent. And on a personal level, I find it rather draconian and censorious that *anyone* should be packed off to please what seems to be a minority opinion. This shouldn't even *be* affecting private estates, or mature private parcels.



It does not. But my ire was directed at the fact that you seemed to be inferring a personal opinion to my original post, which was really only directed at the Lindens for clarity on what exactly they expect us to do. No matter how much of this is a load of old pants for everyone, LL could be a *lot* clearer on what is expected and what applies to whom. That they are not, is suspicious and irritating.

As for the social "stigma", people should be more concerned how this affects their communities and bottom lines, rather than some obscure idea about how "wicked" sex is. But I realise that is not how some people think. And certainly those who *are* concerned with the supposed "wickedness" are a *very* vocal minority, making it difficult on everyone to concentrate on the bigger issues. Like the fact we are being screwed out of what we have bought and paid for, and offered a greatly diminished product in it's stead.

I do understand now that your post was not directed at me personally, even if your choice of words made it appear so. So my apologies as well for being a bit harsh, as it was undeserved in this instance.

So can i say... by far... i like this answer. Why? its not your opinion, or *I think* or something exactly opposite of what we read elsewhere.



Yes, please define many.....
Cause seriously...
Can we wave away the smoke... and the BS... and simply get some straight answers?
~Brie