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Argent Stonecutter
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04-22-2009 13:32
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-22-2009 13:33
WHY NOT ALLOW US TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF VERICATION, AS WE ARE ABLE TO DO ON PAYMENT STATUS? _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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04-22-2009 13:34
I have been trying to follow this issue off and on and aside from the problems with verification i have (being a european) i do have one question which may or may not have been answered somewhere already and i appologise if it has. How will this affect homestead sims? currantly we have one and are slightly in limbo with regards to changing the existing club incase this new "thing" would affect what we do. again sorry if this has been asked before Geez, what are you doing with a club on a homestead sim anyway? Don't you know it cuts your possible attendance in half? Not to mention performance issues. _____________________
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Blondin Linden
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04-22-2009 13:35
Can skin stores display their products uncensored in an M region? Yes Can avatars be nude in public in an M region? Yes Does Bugs Bunny need to wear pants in PG regions? Depends on what attachments he has ![]() Can underwear be sold in PG regions? I don't see why not. Are the Library skins ever viewable in PG regions? I'm not sure I get the questions? Are the basic skins accessible in PG areas? Yes Are visible nipples ever allowed on PG regions? M regions? does avatar gender or species matter? If the beach or pool one is attending on a PG region, then it would be expected for male avatars to be shirtless. Female nipples should not be displayed on PG but would be acceptable on Mature. May Michaelangelo's David be displayed in a PG region? M region? Its a famous work of art. I can see it living on a PG or M region. Can sexual or violent animations be displayed for sale in M regions? Yes Can sexual or violent animations be used in M regions in private (e.g. in homes or skyboxes)? Yes Can weapons be displayed and sold in PG regions? M regions? To be safe, weapons should stay on Mature land Is combat allowed in PG regions? M regions? Combat will be allowed on Mature or adult regions. Will Damage be permanently disabled in PG and M regions? I don't know about PG, that seems like it would be up to whoever owns the land. But damage will not be permanently disabled from mature regions. Is Halloween disallowed in PG and M regions? Valentines day? How about Good Friday? You can decorate your region for the holidays but keep in mind that certain content would be better suited for a Mature than a PG region. May crucifixes be displayed in PG regions? M regions? For religious purposes? Sure, a crucifix can be on either a PG or Mature region. If you want to show your partner BEING crucified, then that should be found on Adult land. May Christian residents perform passion plays outside A regions? Yes, a performance of The Passion would be fine outside of an adult region. May Shakespeare companies perform Hamlet in PG regions? M regions? What about Othello? Romeo and Juliet? Yes. A performance of a Shakespeare play can be on either regions |
Blondin Linden
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04-22-2009 13:42
So if the Xcite store showed all its add-on products just as simple screenshots of them being worn but not used, that would be mature? Those screen shots would still be sexualized depictions would they not? |
GreenKnight Kaul
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The press Release
04-22-2009 13:44
http://lindenlab.com/pressroom/releases/21_04_09
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Blondin Linden
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04-22-2009 13:45
Please give us a list of adult key words, so we know which to use or not use in listings as appropriate. Its unfair to expect us to *guess* which words we can not use, and get abuse reported for making the wrong guess We can't provide a list. I'm sorry about that. But you won't have to guess. If you use a word that has been flagged, a message will pop up and notify you of the word. |
Brenda Connolly
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04-22-2009 13:45
hey now. Most of us on this side of the pond think this whole LL action is as assinine and idiotic as you Euros do. Yes. After all, they are from California. San Francisco. That should explain a lot Maybe the Governator plays SL. _____________________
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Talarus Luan
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04-22-2009 13:46
Those screen shots would still be sexualized depictions would they not? Depends on how you define "sexualized depictions", would it not? If Michaelangelo's "David" displaying bits is considered "art", why would a product image of the normal state of a product be "more adult"? |
Lord Sullivan
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04-22-2009 13:46
You didn't get kicked out of the Netherlands yet? Not yet i think they will let me stay a bit longer as long as i behave myself ![]() _____________________
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Meade Paravane
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04-22-2009 13:47
Those [xcite main store] screen shots would still be sexualized depictions would they not? No more so than nude art or a screenshot of a skin.. _____________________
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Talarus Luan
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04-22-2009 13:47
We can't provide a list. I'm sorry about that. But you won't have to guess. If you use a word that has been flagged, a message will pop up and notify you of the word. Cool! So, given 24 hours and a decent "urban dictionary" "attack", we can get the list ourselves? Awesome! |
Brenda Connolly
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04-22-2009 13:47
I must be under the same rock as i have never heard of her? who is she? ![]() Hey, watch those hands, Buddy! _____________________
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Blondin Linden
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04-22-2009 13:49
I thought you said previously that private homes would not be affected, now it sounds like they are. Private Regions with Adult content will still have to flag themselves as Adult. Private homes on the mainland won't have to change anything |
Roxanne Questi
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There goes the neighborhood
04-22-2009 13:50
I am very disappointed that we, the residents, are losing the freedom to zone on our own. Estates/regions should be encouraged to form home-owner associations, but this Big Brother morals policing is only going to result in AR harassment. I love sl and this development is very troublesome to me.
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Couldbe Yue
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Q about cascading verification
04-22-2009 13:50
if alts are tied to an account will the account verification status of the primary be cascaded to the npoif/non verified alts tied to the account or will all accounts still have to age/account verify separately?
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Cytherion Revnik
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04-22-2009 13:50
Ratings Overview:
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010 I know its a rough draft, however even as a draft or an overview its very very far from making it even remotely clear and it may be a bit too earlyto comment on it yet but I will do it anyways as its an extremely important play on words. According to the post, adult regions are : "Regions that host conduct or display content that is sexually explicit or intensely violent, or depicts illicit drug use" Going by standard definition 'sexually explicit' means NOT implied or suggestive but as "having sexual acts or nudity clearly depicted in images or openly visible text describing genital contact" Meaning how do you draw the line where sexual content is NOT explicit but implied? I see this being mentioned as well "A Region may be designated PG so long as it does not advertise or make available any content that is suggestive of any (even mildly) sexual or violent themes, or references to social drug or alcohol usage. " Be advised "Suggestive" or "mildly Suggestive" doesnt make the content explicit. Yes there are suggestive or implied Sex scenes in PG movies which get away with a PG rating because "Sex" is a PG word and there is sex education for teens for crying out loud. What I want to convey here is that it should be made very , very clear on what classifies as an Adult or Mature content in a play on words. If 2 residents engage in sexual acts involving "nudity" that is openly visible it should and MUST be classified as Adult I agree but.. how do you classify "Animation stores" that strictly sell animations and regulate no nudity policy have no nude images in their store, no cuss words or explicit words describing genital contact as adult based on your definition? Its not a rant but I speak for every animation designer in SL when I say that its needs to be clearly identified if you make animations that lets 2 avatars engage in sex makes you an explicitly sexual region or not. Because going by definition its not "Explicit" For example a product made by my company is a Kama Sutra MetaBook, Its an animated book for residents who want to learn about Kama Sutra. The book of kama sutra is classified as art and is available even in PG book stores openly. It has no explicit nudity, its clothed demonstration but yet it allows 2 avatars to engage and try out the Kama Sutra positions in their privacy. You can see my dilemma here, is it PG or do I mark it as "explicitly sexual content" It doesnt matter to me either ways as I have both PG and MA sims, I just need to know where I move what that is all.. |
Brenda Connolly
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04-22-2009 13:53
For religious purposes? Sure, a crucifix can be on either a PG or Mature region. If you want to show your partner BEING crucified, then that should be found on Adult land. OK. That one made me laugh out loud. ![]() _____________________
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Miro Collas
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04-22-2009 13:55
Private Regions with Adult content will still have to flag themselves as Adult. Private homes on the mainland won't have to change anything Uhm, what if a private region is a home (or a few homes) and nothing else? No commerce whatsoever, no clubs, just private homes. |
Korena Starbrook
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04-22-2009 13:56
Ratings Overview: https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010 how do you classify "Animation stores" that strictly sell animations.. According to a recent previous post from Blondin - sexual animations may be displayed and sold on mature sims. I am banking on that statement ![]() |
Roxanne Questi
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truly disappointed
04-22-2009 13:56
http://lindenlab.com/pressroom/releases/21_04_09 Frankly I don't care that M. Linden has a photo gallery of his adventures in secondlife, Replace that little bit on the logging in screen announcing this change. The Supreme Court took years working on the definition of porn; why are a bunch of programmers assuming they can do this for us? Abort project - its none of your business. Thanks for providing the code and the servers, NOW LEAVE US ALONE. |
Ceera Murakami
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04-22-2009 13:57
Private Regions with Adult content will still have to flag themselves as Adult. Private homes on the mainland won't have to change anything *Cough* PARDON ME??? ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL PRIVATE REGIONS WITH ANY ADULT CONTENT MUST FLAG AS ADULT, EVEN IF 100% RESIDENTIAL AND NOT ADVERTIZED??? _____________________
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Talarus Luan
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04-22-2009 13:58
Private Regions with Adult content will still have to flag themselves as Adult. Private homes on the mainland won't have to change anything What if my "private region" IS my "home"? |
Blondin Linden
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04-22-2009 13:59
i dont have like... sexual pictures on the walls, i just have a few sex gens, and i use them at times, i'm almost certain this is included in Lindens plan so my land is now screwed into kiddyvil and i'm out some od 1000 dollars i dont even want to add it up Be more specific. Is your land for personal use or do you advertise sexual content on it? |
Dogboat Taurog
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04-22-2009 14:00
We can't provide a list. I'm sorry about that. But you won't have to guess. If you use a word that has been flagged, a message will pop up and notify you of the word. why cant you provide a list? Its not going to take long for us to work out is it? just type every "naughty" word we can think of see what gets flagged and spread the words. but you treat us like children blondin, its to be expected of you. you know, i have a feeling this thread is going to be closed, you have put much more time in today than any other day. |