Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

There were threee performance factors described in my original post.



Where this becomes a LL issue is that I will in all likeliehood be ported to a new parcel that is likely to be surrounded by high-load residents against my prersonal preference.

I am fine where I am, and I LIKE it. I can play there.

YOUR OVERSIMPLIFICATION EXEMPLIFIES THE TYPICAL SOPHISTRY OF THE BOURGEOIS CLASS.

I want an answer....

I provide MATURE FANTASY ROLE PLAY performances on an individual or small group basis, and I want to be assured that I can continue to enjoy such play.

I can't maintain sessions in many popular Adult themed sims, nor could I even get to the blasted eggs on the Egg Island thing...

I should not lose my ease of use because of an adverse act of the licensor.

On the "Working Definitions" FAQ, it states: From the above, it would appear that Adult Content *can remain* on the existing mainland as long as the Region in which it is located is designated as Adult. Is this correct?????

Or should that sentence (Locate on a Region that has been designated by its owner as Adult) be changed to read "Locate on a Private Island..."????

The swap will be for those on mainland who are moving to the new adult continent.

i'm probably quiting SL over this and going to some place like open sims, i was going to start creating content, i had already made a few builds, but if linden is going down the road of not leting artists express themselves in anything over PG-13 level content, as well as screwing over SO many estate owners! i wont bother

But what about those people currently on PG mainland doing things which are permitted under the existing PG rules, but which will not be permitted by the new PG definition?

Surelly morally LL should offer those people a free move to mature land?

Matthew

IMHO, and I'm not about to start debating gun v. weed legislation and I don't want to start a huge thing but there are two things to keep in mind no matter how much we agree or disagree:

Even though we all know differently, head shops sell pipes for 'tobacco' use b/c marijuana is illegal here in the US. Illicit drug use is illegal.

On the other hand, you can walk into a gun shop in RL, ask for and purchase a gun (with a proper license of course). Guns are legal.

The swap will be for those on mainland who are moving to the new adult continent.

Photorealistic nudity would be RL pornographic images uploaded into SL. Skin vendors are still Mature.

But what about those people currently on PG mainland doing things which are permitted under the existing PG rules, but which will not be permitted by the new PG definition?

Surelly morally LL should offer those people a free move to mature land?

Matthew

Yes, many of us don't want to debate this either, we want to just get on with our use of SL, as we bought into it, according to the LL Tao etc. - but it was LL that wanted feedback on this policy change.

I really don't want to keep attacking your statements, but you can't claim RL comparisons/standards and defend your position in any way *whatsoever* by just stating that "guns are legal", in the U.S. Their use on fellow citizens, last I heard, was incredibly ILLEGAL.

Don't some states in the U.S. have the death penalty for this kind of thing? And if you start with a 'well that's RL, not SL' defence, or 'gunfights in SL aren't REAL', then... you lose your entire arguement regarding definitions in this crazy policy.

Will LL next be expecting Residents to take a driving test to use their vehicles in SL? Either this virtual world is virtual, or it's about mirroring RL as close as possible - you can't cherry pick from both to suit your agenda and expect your customers to have any faith in you.

How would this issue affect live theatrical performances? For instance, in March 2008 a group of talented and dedicated SL writers and actors created and produced the highly successful stage production "In the Pink," to raise funds and awareness for V-Day, the global movement to end violence to women and girls. Our original production was a series of monologues and sketches written and performed by SL residents and the subject was sexuality of women. By certain standards the material could be defined as "adult" in nature with its frank discussion of sexuality, language, and violence towards women. But this was all in a effort to raise awareness. I do not feel that the material should be considered smut, but by applying the rubric description of the 3 proposed areas, our show would be banished to the "adult" continent to reside among some of the same content it was designed to combat. Although we also celebrated the sexuality of women, our awareness and fund raising goals would have been meaningless and we would have had difficulty reaching a broad audience.

Some might say we could go to a private sim. Indeed we could and "In the Pink" was hosted on Ivy Falls, a private sim. However if all artistic endeavors are sent to private sims then the cost of production goes up substantially, thus stifling many new works. Plus would we not have mark our content as "adult"?

I know it's a difficult subject. In RL we get it too. For instance Daddy Warbucks in "Annie" uses the word "damn" and Tinkerbell in "Peter Pan" calls Peter a "ass". Hardly shows that you'd warn the audience about "language". You'd rate it G, right? In both productions I was involved with, you should have heard the complaints. So I know it's hard to please everybody.
But please consider the legitimate artistic community of writers, songwriters, and theatre and visual artists.

I am interested in speaking to someone further about this issue. Unless precisely defined, I can see that such censorship will severely hamper the artistic creativity that is now beginning to enfold in SL. There is truly groundbreaking work being created here. Please don't stifle it; I'm sure that working together to further define this issue is needed.

Marin Mielziner
Artistic Director
Act Up Theatre Company

We can't provide a list. I'm sorry about that. But you won't have to guess. If you use a word that has been flagged, a message will pop up and notify you of the word.

just because that's your reality doesn't mean it's anyone else's.

I'm not so detatched from my reality that do I feel the need - even in a virtual world, to kill kittens or shoot my friends and tbh I don't see the point of what you do.

But, if you want to do it and don't make me witness it then I'm fine. Your problems with your life are exactly that - your own.

According to the draft definitions mature rating stops at sexy clothing and burlesque.

Blondin: This contradicts many statements you have made that what would otherwise be adult content in private residences does not need to be in an Adult region.

I guess I'll be taking a day off next week and driving to Battery Street. I am out of alternatives.

No you're right, If it's an advertised venue it would be adult. So for the error.

If the beach or pool one is attending on a PG region, then it would be expected for male avatars to be shirtless. Female nipples should not be displayed on PG but would be acceptable on Mature.

Well, I solved my problem. I have decided to just not mess with it. I put all of my sex poseballs in a big box. Made them full perms and put them out for free at my lotsa balls store for a limited time. Then I will stick to just PG ... cuddles, dances, kisses and furniture balls.

It's just not worth the headache.

Hear Hear!
LL detached itself from any RL parity when it decided to allow free accounts, thus removing ANY vetting procedure on entry. SL was (as far as I remember) promoted as a space/game/experience for adults, but LL let everyone in and now it has to sub-divide after the fact to avoid litigation. This continued banging on (can I still use that phrase?) about "phororealistic depictions" and "simulations of illegal acts" would not have happened if they'd kept to the original "door policy".